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shrink or no shrink is the Question

Thu, 09/28/2006 - 06:39
I havent been up on the board in well over a month of sundays. My daugher is in 9th grade this year and it's kicking her butt. she has i dont care attitude, as of date she is failing every class but one. every night with hmwrk its a battle were not getting done till 9 pm and she gets home at 330. ive tried everything under the sun to get her to realize what is at steak for her. do 9th grade over again, repeat several classes, etc etc, but nothing gets through. i know everyone says first yr of HS is hard but it cant be this hard. she just seems down all the time. so the wife and i were thinking of taking her to a shrink any one have thoughts on this? thanks. scott

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Re: Re: Re: shrink or no shrink is the Question

Submitted by heathersmithers on Sun, 2006-10-01 - 15:18
Hi Scott Just to set the record straight im the one with the seziures,,,my son possibly,,,he has had one suspicious eeg, and now we are setting him up for a sleep eeg..He is 13,,,and not on any meds right now besides a huge dose of daily iron pills for his anemia,,,,I also have a 19 year old who is in colleg and a 21 year old who is still struggling through high school,,,i think he is in grade ohhhhh about 17 by now,,,but he has not given up and neither have i.... Right now my son is in grade 8 and most likely the oldest in his class as his birthday is jan 18th,,,so he just missed the cutoff,,, had be been born three weeks earlier he would be in grade 9 this year (grin) For as much as i would like to explain away the behaviour problems he is having on his anemia,,,possible seziures,,etc....i have been down this road before and cannot rule out the one thing that is staring me again in the face....PUBERTY....The dreaded word....but there it is...It is not to say it may very well may be something medical ,,,but your daughter is right around that age,,,,13-14 Where our children go to bed one night all cute and cuddly and wake up the next morning having been taken over by some unforseen force (puberty) where we....the parents....are no longer wanted..needed..or have anything intellengient to say...unless of course we come bearing money,,or credit cards (grin) Their friends may think you are cool,,but that only makes it worse (laugh) You have to somehow find that fine line between being a parent and being a friend.....that way they always know you are there if they need you to talk with and they know that they can talk to you about anything,,,and i do mean anything... Ahhh ive always said parenting begins at puberty...(grin) Heather

Re: Re: Re: shrink or no shrink is the Question

Submitted by GodivaGirl on Sun, 2006-10-01 - 17:43
Scott, Honest, try taking a step back & focus on letting your daughter just be a kid. She's on some pretty powerful drugs. While I don't know the doses. A) Check out www.epilepsyontario.org -- treatments -- medications -- Lamictal. In there, you'll see warnings that Lamictal is a pretty powerful medication, not recommended for kids under 16 unless seizures are severe OR Lennox Gaut (SP??) Disease is an issue. B) Read up on Keppra (either the banner here, or skim through the "Medication Issues" section in here) I haven't seen many adults who like Keppra. I myself started it about 4 mths ago & go from one day being happy, the next hating life, and have thought of killing myself twice. The seizure control on Keppra can be great, but the side effects are nasty. Lamictal I was on when I was 22. For me it was too expensive for the reward, so I got off it quick, but I remember it impacted concentration just as much as Keppra. Yes, there are important courses for college and university, odds are your daughter will get there. Odds are she's in some sort of phase where the seizure meds, adjusting to high school and life are just getting to her. Be there for her. Tell her no matter what it's ok. There's always summer school, and perhaps correspondence (if that's an option). Also, you say your daughter wants to be a sports medicine trainer. Perhaps get her to volunteer in something relevant to the field get her interested in it. Have her help out the girls basketball team? Even maybe the boys? Find a sports trainer she can shadow or talk to. Get her interested in the future - perhaps the sports trainer will make her see the courses she needs to take. Your daughter sounds like me at 16-22. Basically, I always told my parents I'm fine, leave me the hell alone. At the same time, even though I was always academic I still heard "you can't" and "you'll never" often enough from doctors. Well, I'm stubborn & I prove people wrong. Eventually, at 19 I moved away to university & I was like finally I get to live my own life - did that year one, and half of my second year. That's when I got into drinking heavily, and experimenting with drugs a bit, because well - time to do what I want. While I still got my major/minor & ended up with a decent average, that's why I say, back off & let your kid be a kid that maybe just struggles a bit. She will wake up & see the importance of education. Maybe not as soon as you want her to, but if you force it then your risking a rebellious kid on your hands. Is that what you really want? The more my own parents back off, let me live my life & are just there to support me through the rough times when things don't go as planned, the more they get let in. Even now at 32, my mom worries about certain things, questions decesions, so when I look for input on anything it's not her I ask, it's my dad because I know my dad just listens & says it's all okay, it will work out & as long as your happy & reasonably seizure free, that's all that matters. In the great scheme of things, what do you want - a straight A student who's miserable and a really great actress that shuts you out of her life & resents you later in life for the pressure put on her to excel in school. OR a happy, well adjust reasonably seizure free kid, who lives life as a typical 14 year old where at 14, friends, the mall, movies and your first crush are more important than math, english and science, and by 16 she'll wake up & see it for herself that school is important and perhaps she'll resent you less. Ask about more than school. Ask about friends, movies, etc. There's more to life than education. Put it first too much, and she's going to put it last, just to rebel against you more and more, just a guess. ~ EC

Re: shrink or no shrink is the Question

Submitted by IRule on Sun, 2006-10-01 - 19:46
Hi Scott, As the mother of a daughter who happens to be in 9th grade also I can empathize with you. Actually I usually have 5 teanage girls (only 1 is mine) running around my house at most times...talk about hormone overload. From what one of my daughters teachers says, they all seem to go thru this the first semester of school, especially the first quarter. Do they have an AVID program at her school? It really helps them stay focused towards college. My advise is to talk to your daughter. You may only get one syllable answers in response, but at least she will know you care. BTW, can anyone translate what eh is? It is the response I get to How was your day? My guess is...Leave me alone...don't bother me, or so-so. At first my daughter was really struggling, adjusting to High School and all that, but she says she has it alot easier than most of her friends. She says the upperclassmen are really hard on the freshmen, and very mean to many of them. My daughter is spared alot of it thankfully since she is in classes with the upperclassmen, many assumed that she was older. If your daughter thinks the stress is too much for her, then going to see a therapist or counselor might be a good idea. But talk to her, don't make it seem like she is in need of help or anything like that. Best of luck to you Scott. Contact me if you want to talk some more. Dayna

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