Logical suicide discussion

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I’ve read the seek therapy, don’t do it – you have too much to live for and see, etc. I have TLE with generalization. A little back story, I was in the Marine Corps (I didn’t get it because I was in country and suffered TBI) and had a few partials then the big boys hit. The first one happen when I was 25 and I have around 20 since then, I’m thirty now. I totally understand that averaging 4 a year is very mild to some other people dealing with this disorder but that doesn’t mitigate the same thought process of the of the next step. I’ve broken through every medication(s) that I’ve been on. I honestly feel I’ve lived a full life – Marine Corps, seeing the world, falling truly in love and the devastation of losing that love, graduating from college. All these milestones life in the western culture has set for us, I’ve achieved. I accepted death the first day I joined the Marine Corps in 2007. Death to me is just a day, like anyother day. Trying to have a logical conversation with my family of why it’s ok to move on ends very abruptly, so here a discussion about this seems appropriate. Please don’t take this as a selfish, all about me, don’t care about anyone else’s feelings post. But to decide when you feel that life has been fulfilled why is it not ok to say, ok it’s time for me to move on? I’m not religious so the whole sin/hell doesn’t apply to my argument. Thanks in advance for the replies to further this discussion.

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I think the first thing you

Submitted by Iocando on Wed, 2018-02-14 - 18:21

I think the first thing you should do is accept the thought of suicide. Restraining yourself from it will only make you wanna do it more. That's why you need to accept it, then try to think about all the amazing things you have. It must be very difficult for you, given the fact that you have lost so much, however there is always more things to do, to live for. It doesn't matter if your epilepsy is very mild, what's important here is that you still have to deal with it, live with it; only the fact of knowing you have it is more than enough. I think you could also cry it out, that is one of the best things in life, that way you can unburden yourself of all the things that have happened and that are happening. Don't restrain yourself from your feelings, scream if you must. It doesn't matter if you cry for one whole straight day, go for it. After that, find a friend or a relative that you trust the most, that one that will listen to you without interruption, that can take you out and make you laugh super loud and that can stay with you, no matter what. Ask that person to ear you out, it's very unlikely that he/she will completely understand you, given the fact that he/she may not have epilepsy; but still talk about it, say it all, talk about suicide. It's very important that you talk about it.Then try to live everyday as the last day, by that I mean say "I love you" more often, smile, cry, find something that you love and do it, go out, don't think too much about the future, enjoy every minute of every day. No, it won't be easy but give it a try.I get you, more than you know. I also have epilepsy and have also thought of suicide, even of how I would do it and how it was a good decision. I know you're not religious but God helped me, practicing my religion. Although it took a long while, I was able to realize why it wasn't the way out. My friends and family helped me out a lot, they put up with my feelings, side effects, etc. My friends took me out and laughed at me (not in the bullying way), always trying to find a way to make me feel better. Find that person that can help you the most. If you need to talk more, you know I'm here

I think the first thing you should do is accept the thought of suicide. Restraining yourself from it will only make you wanna do it more. That's why you need to accept it, then try to think about all the amazing things you have. It must be very difficult for you, given the fact that you have lost so much, however there is always more things to do, to live for. It doesn't matter if your epilepsy is very mild, what's important here is that you still have to deal with it, live with it; only the fact of knowing you have it is more than enough. I think you could also cry it out, that is one of the best things in life, that way you can unburden yourself of all the things that have happened and that are happening. Don't restrain yourself from your feelings, scream if you must. It doesn't matter if you cry for one whole straight day, go for it. After that, find a friend or a relative that you trust the most, that one that will listen to you without interruption, that can take you out and make you laugh super loud and that can stay with you, no matter what. Ask that person to ear you out, it's very unlikely that he/she will completely understand you, given the fact that he/she may not have epilepsy; but still talk about it, say it all, talk about suicide. It's very important that you talk about it.Then try to live everyday as the last day, by that I mean say "I love you" more often, smile, cry, find something that you love and do it, go out, don't think too much about the future, enjoy every minute of every day. No, it won't be easy but give it a try.I get you, more than you know. I also have epilepsy and have also thought of suicide, even of how I would do it and how it was a good decision. I know you're not religious but God helped me, practicing my religion. Although it took a long while, I was able to realize why it wasn't the way out. My friends and family helped me out a lot, they put up with my feelings, side effects, etc. My friends took me out and laughed at me (not in the bullying way), always trying to find a way to make me feel better. Find that person that can help you the most. If you need to talk more, you know I'm here

I think the first thing you should do is accept the thought of suicide. Restraining yourself from it will only make you wanna do it more. That's why you need to accept it, then try to think about all the amazing things you have. It must be very difficult for you, given the fact that you have lost so much, however there is always more things to do, to live for. It doesn't matter if your epilepsy is very mild, what's important here is that you still have to deal with it, live with it; only the fact of knowing you have it is more than enough. I think you could also cry it out, that is one of the best things in life, that way you can unburden yourself of all the things that have happened and that are happening. Don't restrain yourself from your feelings, scream if you must. It doesn't matter if you cry for one whole straight day, go for it. After that, find a friend or a relative that you trust the most, that one that will listen to you without interruption, that can take you out and make you laugh super loud and that can stay with you, no matter what. Ask that person to ear you out, it's very unlikely that he/she will completely understand you, given the fact that he/she may not have epilepsy; but still talk about it, say it all, talk about suicide. It's very important that you talk about it.Then try to live everyday as the last day, by that I mean say "I love you" more often, smile, cry, find something that you love and do it, go out, don't think too much about the future, enjoy every minute of every day. No, it won't be easy but give it a try.I get you, more than you know. I also have epilepsy and have also thought of suicide, even of how I would do it and how it was a good decision. I know you're not religious but God helped me, practicing my religion. Although it took a long while, I was able to realize why it wasn't the way out. My friends and family helped me out a lot, they put up with my feelings, side effects, etc. My friends took me out and laughed at me (not in the bullying way), always trying to find a way to make me feel better. Find that person that can help you the most. If you need to talk more, you know I'm here

Hmmm... Have you ever

Submitted by toraborealis on Sun, 2018-02-18 - 00:40

Hmmm... Have you ever attended a death cafe? They are free meetings where folks talk logically about the universal experience of death while eating cake and drinking tea or coffee. I have not yet attended one, but I plan to attend the next one in my area. You might see if there is one in your area so you can have a realistic and unabashed conversation with a community of folks who feel as accepting of death as you do. http://deathcafe.com/

I think you can take your

Submitted by Believer_59cd4d81a99cf on Fri, 2018-02-23 - 00:03

I think you can take your question one huge existential step further--what is the point of life? Is it to hit "all the milestones life in the western culture set for us?" If someone cannot meet these milestones, or if they have met all of them, is there meaning in their life? Is there a purpose in life for the elderly? The disabled? And is there a purpose in life for you? Is there a new purpose you can consider taking on? Something larger than yourself, perhaps? There is a psychological phenomena called "the end of history." It refers to the idea that most people feel that they have made great personal gains or growth until this point, but will likely not change much in the future. Who knows what the future holds for you? Who else might come into your life, what opportunities may come your way? Who knows what you may do for someone, or a lot of people, one day? Who you might be to someone? You are thirty, not ninety. You speak of your life like it's over, and I think I know the feeling. Because when you can't really picture the future, sometimes it feels like there isn't much of one. But why call the quits and end the story now? You might have up to or over fifty years of adventure, love, meaning and knowledge ahead of you. You can live the accomplishments of your life three times over. Why consider ending it all when your other option has endless possibilities?