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Sleep Apnea causing epilepsy?!

Tue, 01/03/2006 - 23:40
Hello everyone, I hope everybody had a great christmas/new year! I had a question about Sleep Apnea causing epi. on the day after christmas I had another tonic clonic which was so violent that I dislocated my right arm, anyway, when I went to see my GP about it all, he suggested I go to a sleep clinic to see if I have Sleep Apnea. I know that lack of sleep can trig sometimes, but my doc seems to believe that my epi could be caused by Sleep Apnea. Has anyone else heard of this? I've always had trouble sleeping, since infency, but I never thought much of it, and now they tell me that I have an abnormally narrow airway, which probably means Sleep Apnea, which might have caused my epi!!!!!!!!! If anyone knows anything about this please give me more info, it would be much appriciated!

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Re: Sleep Apnea causing epilepsy?!

Submitted by rhondadbe on Sat, 2007-11-03 - 23:27
Sleep apnea doesn't cause epilepsy. However, a lot of people who have epilepsy also have sleep apnea. That was explained to me by one of my Neurologists....who did the sleep test. They don't know why, but he said they have seen a lot of people with epilepsy also having sleep apnea. Sleep apnea doesn't cause seizures, but it does cause other serious problems as you get older of it's not treated.

Re: Sleep Apnea causing epilepsy?!

Submitted by splarty on Tue, 2010-05-04 - 16:17

Rhondadbe,

I am afraid that your Neurologists have been misleading you. There is significant evidence that there is a pathogenic link between apnea and seizures (i.e. apnea can cause seizures and does exacerbate seizures). There has been a substantial amount of work done since the 1980s that provide evidence of the link. For example:

"Epilepsy and sleep apnea syndrome," Neurology, 1994, vol. 44, no11, pp. 2060-2064, "Obstructive sleep apnea is common in medically refractory epilepsy patients," Neurology, 2000, vol. 55, no7, pp. 1002-1007 (where one third of patients with epilepsy were found to have apnea, 50% for males). In 2006 a researcher went as far as to say: "we did observe a significant trend toward improvement in seizure frequency among patients who received CPAP - a result that rivals that of an antiepileptic drug," principal investigator Beth Ann Malow, MD, from Vanderbilt University. “Three of the patients became seizure free and the fourth patient had a greater than 95% reduction in seizure frequency following only the initiation of therapy for the sleep apnoea.”Vaughn et al., 1996 .

In late onset epilepsy (i.e. onset of seizures in older people) a recent study (NEUROLOGY 2007;69:1823-1827
© 2007 American Academy of Neurology, Obstructive sleep apnea is associated with seizure occurrence in older adults with epilepsy, Annette M. Chihorek, MD, Bassel Abou-Khalil, MD and Beth A. Malow, MD, MS) concludes:  "Obstructive sleep apnea is associated with seizure exacerbation in older adults with epilepsy, and its treatment may represent an important avenue for improving seizure control in this population."

Given that this evidence has been available for many years, it is shocking how categorical your response to this thread is. Misinformation like this can stop people getting appropriate treatment.

 I started having seizures in my sleep when I was 32. It took 7 years for my apnea to be treated properly (even though my wife noticed that I stopped breathing in my sleep, and I told my neurologists  ... however, I was "not fat enough" to have apnea in their opinion). I have not had a seizure since. 

Sleep and seizures have been linked since the time of Hippocrates.

Rhondadbe,

I am afraid that your Neurologists have been misleading you. There is significant evidence that there is a pathogenic link between apnea and seizures (i.e. apnea can cause seizures and does exacerbate seizures). There has been a substantial amount of work done since the 1980s that provide evidence of the link. For example:

"Epilepsy and sleep apnea syndrome," Neurology, 1994, vol. 44, no11, pp. 2060-2064, "Obstructive sleep apnea is common in medically refractory epilepsy patients," Neurology, 2000, vol. 55, no7, pp. 1002-1007 (where one third of patients with epilepsy were found to have apnea, 50% for males). In 2006 a researcher went as far as to say: "we did observe a significant trend toward improvement in seizure frequency among patients who received CPAP - a result that rivals that of an antiepileptic drug," principal investigator Beth Ann Malow, MD, from Vanderbilt University. “Three of the patients became seizure free and the fourth patient had a greater than 95% reduction in seizure frequency following only the initiation of therapy for the sleep apnoea.”Vaughn et al., 1996 .

In late onset epilepsy (i.e. onset of seizures in older people) a recent study (NEUROLOGY 2007;69:1823-1827
© 2007 American Academy of Neurology, Obstructive sleep apnea is associated with seizure occurrence in older adults with epilepsy, Annette M. Chihorek, MD, Bassel Abou-Khalil, MD and Beth A. Malow, MD, MS) concludes:  "Obstructive sleep apnea is associated with seizure exacerbation in older adults with epilepsy, and its treatment may represent an important avenue for improving seizure control in this population."

Given that this evidence has been available for many years, it is shocking how categorical your response to this thread is. Misinformation like this can stop people getting appropriate treatment.

 I started having seizures in my sleep when I was 32. It took 7 years for my apnea to be treated properly (even though my wife noticed that I stopped breathing in my sleep, and I told my neurologists  ... however, I was "not fat enough" to have apnea in their opinion). I have not had a seizure since. 

Sleep and seizures have been linked since the time of Hippocrates.

Re: Sleep Apnea causing epilepsy?!

Submitted by jamesrobert on Sun, 2012-02-19 - 17:36
thank you for  posting this i am in youre shoes exactly and ive been doin my own research because my nuero is ignueromas becasue he doesnt know this i had to beg him to refer me to a sleep doc  and im awaiting my test .I wanted to ask you  after you treated youre sleep apnea  how did you know you could stop meds. that is my goal to get off meds. They help me but i also think theyre the reason doctors dont really wanna cure us cus they need us to eat the pills so they can get paid. Thats against the hippocratic oath bit it should be called hippocritical oath cus some are. Not all doctors are this way i have  faith in my sleep doctor  because he hasnt said im not fat enough and he has said that i t could most defentily be my problem agreeing with me and willing to help. thanks again,  cause there is so much misleading info  out there and lots of patients believe whatever theyr nuero says and i think that alot of people may be cured by treating theyre osa  but not if theyre doctors say thats not the problem. for some reason they dont seem to care to find out what the cause might be they just say it could be accumulative damage or   bladdy blah  whatever   wich means to me i dont care as long as i get paid  and my nuero is supposed to be world renowned. but this info isnt new news just rejected for some reason, well ive found many website forums saying that osa dosnt cause sezuires but the sezuires cause osa and slowly registering on each site and copying and pasting the proof you have posted to try to help some of the people who care

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