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Take some responsibility

Wed, 12/27/2006 - 19:06
This is a repost, however I think it warrants its own thread in response to a number of posts where individuals have decided to do some cop bashing with regards to Police and their response to epilepsy/mental illness. Police Officers across North America do take training with regard to Mental Illness and what is required when they need to intervene. Since Police Officers ARE NOT social workers, nor medical doctors their particular challenge is relatively simple. If they encounter an individual that has come to their attention that is not acting normal they are expected to take some type of action. The action of the individual in question will decide on the reaction of the Police. Since over 500 Police Officers a year are murdered on duty in the US and thousands of others are seriously injured, some during such calls, they only have a couple of responsibilities. First of all they have to ensure their safety and that they go home at the end of their shift. (Too often the public forgets that Police Officers did not go into this type of career to get themselves killed.) Next they have a responsibility to protect the general public and thirdly they have a responsibility for the safety of the person that is causing the incident. To ensure everyone's safety they now have less than lethal weapons in case they do have to take action, but once again the action of the individual in question will decide on the reaction of the police. Items such as the taser, pepperspray, mace etc are all options for them. I would certainly expect them to use the tools that they have and to use them in the manner in which they have been trained. For some armchair quaterback from any advocacy group to even think for a moment that Police Officers should be able to identify seizures from a hundred other possible reasons for the behaviour is absolutely ridiculous. Think about it. All you have to do is read the posts and stories on this website to come to the conclusion that even specialists can't agree on or recognize seizures!!!! For someone to even think or consider this indicates just how selfish and irresponsible they are. These are the same people that blame everyone and everything else for the ills of the world. People have to be more responsible for their own actions and if they can't be responsible then guess what.....it's up to the persons family or other support/social services not to mention they shouldn't be in public by themselves to begin with. Don't expect the police to be the babysitters of society and don't put the burden of your disability on the general public. It's not their issue! I expect empathy from the social agencies and medical experts I use as well as support from them..... BUT I don't expect Jane Doe who is minding her own business on a bus when she is groped by my son who is having a seizure (that we know will happen) to accept or understand any of this. It's not her issue, it's not her problem!! People have to start taking some responsibility and quit blaming others. We have become a society of blamers!! Just be thankful that the Police are trained in less than lethal use of force options. Many of us still have our loved ones with us because of this. Folks we have court systems. If an unfortunate event takes place that ends up involving the police and the judicial system, we can have our day in court to offer an explanation. Hopefully no matter what the outcome may be we can learn something from it to ensure we or our loved one doesn't end up in the same situation again. If in the end we still feel that we have been slighted by the Police or treated unfairly then we can seek further remedies from the courts. And please don't believe everything you read in the newspaper. We are grown adults and surely we are aware that Freedom of the Press does not neccessarily mean Accountability of the Press. They will print anything in order to sell the daily rags. The more sensational they can make the story, the more papers they sell. Retractions made by newpapers months or years later usually end up somewhere in the classified section or the back of the paper...they usually aren't considered news worthy. "Take your life in your own hands, and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame. ~Erica Jong"

Comments

copabeat Thank you my

Submitted by copabeat on Sun, 2006-12-31 - 09:00
copabeat Thank you my sister. It is refreshing from a Police Officers perspective (with epilepsey myself) to know people like you are out there. (There is a God! She is great too.) You are so right on about so many things you said. The Media is just one of them. I have been screwed myself by the media big time when a female reporter that rode with us for two weeks turned everything around and tried to make us look like "Jokes" She thought making the Story "Funny" would sell more papers and be of more interest to the readers than the truth." "People have seen Cops on TV I wanted to be different" (Her words not mine) The city I work in and especially the area has a lot of people with mental disorders due to a large Hospital with both in-patient & out-patient services. You again are right on, I have never seen ever a person that was having a identifiable seizure ever be treated with anything but compassion and kindness. Unidentifiable ones are exactly as you said unidentifiable, so the Officer who is intitled to a life herself/himself may be apprehensive and forced to protect themselves. Police work has also changed a lot over the last ten years or so, Officers are better trained, although we could always use more. We also have crisis intervention people that will respond to scenes when requested that have broad medical/phycological backgrounds. ( I have learned a thing or two from them myself) Also a little known secret, when an Officer is injured responding to a person that becomes violent or injures them she/he is required to to file charges, one to cover herself or him and second it may actually be the only way to ensure the person is admitted to a medical facilty to get help. I never even once, and I am talking about hundreds of cases not seen the charges dropped prior to even getting to court or ever even one Officer having a problem with that either. Contrary to people like Dundees or whatever his scene name is, we are HUMAN! I swear to God we have feeling and want to live and breath like everyone else. I am not a monster, you could even ask my Mother.(joke) I myself didn't act rational when I had a seizure and gave two responding Officers a very hard time. Had my wife not been there I probably would have acted out. There are some recent "Roll-Call" training videos released from the Department of Justice about identifying people with epilepsey I found them by accident. They are OK but could be better, it beats nothing though. If you would like I will provide you with the site information ( I am not the most computer savy guy but I will do my best) I wouldn't worry about the bashers either, there are a lot of malcontents in the world today, and you are right they look to blame all their ill's on someone else, beats havng to look at themselves get off their ass and contribute. (Easier to knock a house down than to build one) Just look at the America bashing around, most from or own people. After Bush is gone do you really think it will stop? we both know better. I guess you can only pitty them and hope they someday come out of the darkness into the light. It's a wonderful world despite some problems which are what makes the good times good. If it weren't for lifes little bumps how would we appreciate the roller coaster ride? Have a great New Year in 07, seven is a lucky number too! Pardon the grammer & spelling too please.

Re: copabeat Thank you my

Submitted by Christina41586 on Mon, 2007-01-01 - 15:51
There was to much back and forth and picking on eachother for me to read all of the comments, so I'm just going to input my two sense without knowing quite how the thread ended. My friend is a police officer, and she's seen her share of crazy things in her line of work. I don't expect her to know when I'm having a seizure, and she's my friend. Hell, my husband doesn't know sometimes that I'm seizing, and he's my HUSBAND. While it is unnerving that having a fit in public could lead to incarceration, it's a fact that we have to find a way to deal with. Hopefully medical alert bracelets etc. can help. There have been diabetics or hypoglycemics who have a sudden attack of low blood sugr while driving, and they've been locked up for suspicion of DUI. It's a medical condition as well, but the symptoms are so similiar to drunkeness that it's difficult for many people to tell. I think that, so long as said epileptic or hypoglycemic, or whatever, is released from custody and appologized to, that they should continue on with their lives. There is so much about E that isn't fair, and this is just one of those things. If you're going to rally for equality and rights, then you have to accept and realize that if anyone displayed seizure like behavior, epileptic or not, that it's going to be a red flag to a police officer. Hell, a lot of drug addicts act like epileptics when they're high. Don't for once think that I'm saying that, as epileptics, we're screwed into being catagorized with druggies. I'm just saying that the world is such a scary place nowadays, and we need to respect police officials for doing their jobs. I would want my friend to be careful in situationsthat she wasn't sure of, and if that means taking me into custody until she can figure out what's really wrong, then so be it. As for now...I'll be ordering a med ID bracelet.

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