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Take some responsibility

Wed, 12/27/2006 - 19:06
This is a repost, however I think it warrants its own thread in response to a number of posts where individuals have decided to do some cop bashing with regards to Police and their response to epilepsy/mental illness. Police Officers across North America do take training with regard to Mental Illness and what is required when they need to intervene. Since Police Officers ARE NOT social workers, nor medical doctors their particular challenge is relatively simple. If they encounter an individual that has come to their attention that is not acting normal they are expected to take some type of action. The action of the individual in question will decide on the reaction of the Police. Since over 500 Police Officers a year are murdered on duty in the US and thousands of others are seriously injured, some during such calls, they only have a couple of responsibilities. First of all they have to ensure their safety and that they go home at the end of their shift. (Too often the public forgets that Police Officers did not go into this type of career to get themselves killed.) Next they have a responsibility to protect the general public and thirdly they have a responsibility for the safety of the person that is causing the incident. To ensure everyone's safety they now have less than lethal weapons in case they do have to take action, but once again the action of the individual in question will decide on the reaction of the police. Items such as the taser, pepperspray, mace etc are all options for them. I would certainly expect them to use the tools that they have and to use them in the manner in which they have been trained. For some armchair quaterback from any advocacy group to even think for a moment that Police Officers should be able to identify seizures from a hundred other possible reasons for the behaviour is absolutely ridiculous. Think about it. All you have to do is read the posts and stories on this website to come to the conclusion that even specialists can't agree on or recognize seizures!!!! For someone to even think or consider this indicates just how selfish and irresponsible they are. These are the same people that blame everyone and everything else for the ills of the world. People have to be more responsible for their own actions and if they can't be responsible then guess what.....it's up to the persons family or other support/social services not to mention they shouldn't be in public by themselves to begin with. Don't expect the police to be the babysitters of society and don't put the burden of your disability on the general public. It's not their issue! I expect empathy from the social agencies and medical experts I use as well as support from them..... BUT I don't expect Jane Doe who is minding her own business on a bus when she is groped by my son who is having a seizure (that we know will happen) to accept or understand any of this. It's not her issue, it's not her problem!! People have to start taking some responsibility and quit blaming others. We have become a society of blamers!! Just be thankful that the Police are trained in less than lethal use of force options. Many of us still have our loved ones with us because of this. Folks we have court systems. If an unfortunate event takes place that ends up involving the police and the judicial system, we can have our day in court to offer an explanation. Hopefully no matter what the outcome may be we can learn something from it to ensure we or our loved one doesn't end up in the same situation again. If in the end we still feel that we have been slighted by the Police or treated unfairly then we can seek further remedies from the courts. And please don't believe everything you read in the newspaper. We are grown adults and surely we are aware that Freedom of the Press does not neccessarily mean Accountability of the Press. They will print anything in order to sell the daily rags. The more sensational they can make the story, the more papers they sell. Retractions made by newpapers months or years later usually end up somewhere in the classified section or the back of the paper...they usually aren't considered news worthy. "Take your life in your own hands, and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame. ~Erica Jong"

Comments

Yeah...like I hope my son

Submitted by mcdonaja on Thu, 2006-12-28 - 09:07
Yeah...like I hope my son gets tasered for eating a sandwich...c'mon bud use your head. And your right it's a free country, so if your prone to seizures that leave you unconscious, helpless, by all means go for a walk, a bus ride hell even take your bike for a spin.... then maybe the response for your incident would be a hearse...in your case I guess 2 + 2 = 89. ...and yes its important for Police to be aware, I never said they shouldn't be, in fact the MAJORITY are. Just as there are "bad" doctors, lawyers, garbage men, shoe salesmen, there will be "bad" cops...and there always will be...doesn't mean they're a bunch of redneck, murdering racists that get their kicks out of tasing poor innoncent, compliant, non confrontational, non violent, victims of E now does it? Or heck maybe they do look for that little "medic alert" bracelet just to see what your ailment is life is...if it's E that equals a "shocking moment". Maybe tht huge belt buckle medic alert I.D. has its merits. Certainly would save the man time having to sneak up and look at those smaller ones. Heck they could just taser you from the squad car without getting out, although I imagine they enjoy the hunt associated with the current method. Life isn't fair. Get over it and move on. Make a difference where it's needed, like more research, better meds & diagnostic equip, better access to social supports, better trained specialists. To worry that your goin get tasered by the man is like believing your going to win the lottery tonite. What I said was BE RESPONSIBLE, hell you can even go further if you want. Don't I have the right to walk through the streets of East Boston at 2 AM? Do I not have a right to walk through the gang ridden streets of LA?? You may have the right to go to the moon but it doesn't mean that you should excercise that right UNLESS of course your willing to take responsibility for whatever happens ....man I never thought a little common sense would be met with such fierce resistance...kind of sad in a way.

Re: Yeah...like I hope my son

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 2006-12-28 - 10:58
To everyone.. love vigorous debates... Different points of view are welcome on this site, but please let's have everyone be civil when expressing their views. Common sense, yes is needed. Advocacy - yes it's needed. I would encourage everyone to get involved to educate people properly on seizure recognition and response. It is a critical issue that prevents many people from participating fully in society. Join the Speak Up, Speak Out program of the Epilepsy Foundation, and read up on all the legal and social issues that unfortunately can affect people with seizures. And of course, keep reading and talking here as well.

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My hope is to learn and

Submitted by mcdonaja on Thu, 2006-12-28 - 11:00
My hope is to learn and share in order to support a loved one, not to express politcal or ideological views as they obviously don't belong in forums such as this. Again I apologize for wasting everyones and for any insults or offensive comments that went along with my posts. It was time and energy that should have gone towards something more positive. This won't happen again. "The words you speak today should be soft and tender ... for tomorrow you may have to eat them." — Unknown Thanks

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