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How many of us want or use generic AEDs?some dont think theres a difference,but there wrong.soon we all may need them!

Thu, 09/13/2007 - 09:54
The following is a transcript of a report by medical editor Marilyn Brooks that first aired Sept. 12, 2007, on WTAE Channel 4 Action News at 5 p.m. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is important news surfacing about generic drugs. They drugs cost less, but some brands aren't as effective, which is especially true for people with epilepsy. The issue is so big that the Epilepsy Foundation has been campaigning for bills in state legislatures across the country. They want to make it tougher for pharmacists to switch epilepsy patients from brand name drugs to inexpensive generics. Neurological testing has been a part of Scott Prosser's life since he developed encephalitis at age 8. It left him with four brain lesions that generate epileptic seizures. Three brand name anti-seizure drugs kept them under control until one went generic. "The insurance company said they changed their reimbursement structure, and they say that the generic is an OK replacement for the Clonipin," said Scott's mother, Ruth Prosser. That's not quite true though, and patients like Scott are proof. After unknowingly taking the generic, Scott's seizures got worse and more frequent. Many patients experience the same reaction with generic brands. Their difficulty stems directly from their anti-seizure medications, not the brand name that physicians order, rather the generic versions the insurance companies automatically switch them to. All patients are led to believe that generics are exactly the same as the brand name, but the truth of the matter is that they are not and therein lies danger. "If you're seizure-free for more than six months on a brand name medicine and you get switched to a generic medicine that may change your level, the concentration in your blood stream that may put you at risk and again," said one doctor. If it happens at the wrong time, it can be catastrophic. The catastrophe runs the gamut from drowning in bathtubs to having car accidents to falling down stairs. Doctors said there are several reasons generics don't always work, including the fact that generics don't absorb as well as brand name drugs. Doctors said the active ingredient might be 80 to 120 percent of the brand name, so patients can get 20 percent more or 20 percent less medicine in their blood stream. Doctors also said not all generics are the same. Pennsylvania House Bill 98 might help, though. It says that brand names can't be substituted with a generic epilepsy medication without prior notification and a signed informed consent of doctor and patient. The bill was sent to Committee in January, but there has been no word on it since. Without Clonipin, Scott has seizures every eight hours, his mother said. She said until the drug is covered by the insurance company again, she has to shell out $235 a month for the brand name.

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Re: How many of us want or use generic AEDs?some dont think ther

Submitted by Colina on Sun, 2007-09-16 - 16:13
Hi there. The subject of generic verses brand name is always a good one. My personal thoughts and experience are that, and I stress that these are MY opinion only, these studies are very limited to geographical location and doctors. Doctors of which get a bigger cut from name brand prescriptions. Pharmacists are the ones who know best and I suggest anyone who is questioning what the difference is or if it is as effective ask your pharmacist. They are required to let you know if the generic has been substituted or that you have the option. If after trying a generic you find a change, you should then inform your doc. I have in the past had to get one that was a "no substitutions" and the doctor had to fill out a form stating that so that our insurance and government would cover it. I'm now off that nightmare one and am currently taking generic Lamictal and Keppra with great success. The pharmacist explained to me that mostly the only difference is the fillers. As I said this is only my opinion but I hate the fact that alot of members are scared off by these type of statements and limited studies by others. We must also remember that with many seizures a med may only work for a year or two, this is especialy true with people who have simple and complex partial seizures, in my epis word. Personaly I like that I save over 2 hundred a mnth on my meds and I hope that others have success as well.

Re: How many of us want or use generic AEDs?some dont think ther

Submitted by HeatherOverton on Tue, 2008-07-01 - 12:34

You might want to do a little more research before you form an opionion so harsh. Doctors don't get anything out of prescribing one med over another. Pharm reps arent' allowed to give any  whereas the pharmasist do and they aren't educated on bioequalency and how important it is for people with seizures to have a stable med. The FDA requires the bioequalency on a generic be anywhere between 80%-125% that is a 45% difference from the brand. Not to mention you could get one generic at the pharmacy one month and a different generic the next. If you have been seizure free for 5 years like me after 20 years of hard work getting there this isn't something to be messing around with. Oh and don't forget that the good ole' FDA that we put all of our trust in puts more restrictions on dog food than generic meds. Generics has everything to do with insurance companies so the bad guys arent who you really think they are.  

Heather "I can be changed by what happens to me. But I refuse to be reduced by it." Maya Angelou

You might want to do a little more research before you form an opionion so harsh. Doctors don't get anything out of prescribing one med over another. Pharm reps arent' allowed to give any  whereas the pharmasist do and they aren't educated on bioequalency and how important it is for people with seizures to have a stable med. The FDA requires the bioequalency on a generic be anywhere between 80%-125% that is a 45% difference from the brand. Not to mention you could get one generic at the pharmacy one month and a different generic the next. If you have been seizure free for 5 years like me after 20 years of hard work getting there this isn't something to be messing around with. Oh and don't forget that the good ole' FDA that we put all of our trust in puts more restrictions on dog food than generic meds. Generics has everything to do with insurance companies so the bad guys arent who you really think they are.  

Heather "I can be changed by what happens to me. But I refuse to be reduced by it." Maya Angelou

Re: How many of us want or use generic AEDs?some dont think ther

Submitted by spiz on Tue, 2008-07-01 - 13:42

My Neuros have always noted 'Brand Only' on my scripts as well as had it noted on my file. My MD does the same as any medication taken along with the AED's can affect them. On any script page I have ever received it has had the blocks for the Dr's to check referring to Brand only, Generic Only or Either. I would think that anyone having problems with or a preference need only tell their Neuros and MD's.

It evidently would be a good idea to check your script before leaving the pharmacy also to make sure it's Brand if that is what you prefer and/or letting the pharmacist know ahead of time.   :)

-Spiz

 ~We all matter, even when we haven't the slightest clue why~

My Neuros have always noted 'Brand Only' on my scripts as well as had it noted on my file. My MD does the same as any medication taken along with the AED's can affect them. On any script page I have ever received it has had the blocks for the Dr's to check referring to Brand only, Generic Only or Either. I would think that anyone having problems with or a preference need only tell their Neuros and MD's.

It evidently would be a good idea to check your script before leaving the pharmacy also to make sure it's Brand if that is what you prefer and/or letting the pharmacist know ahead of time.   :)

-Spiz

 ~We all matter, even when we haven't the slightest clue why~

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