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My wife, epilepsy, and abnormal behavior - My Perspective

Wed, 09/01/2010 - 05:03

My wife just joined this forum and I thought I would too.  This is my first post and I would like to tell my side of this seizure "adventure" and hopefully hear from others that what we are going though is "normal."  We are both 29 yrs old and she has just started dealing with some sort of epilepsy (the verdict is still out until we have more tests completed).  Here is a background on what has happened so far:

 

About 5 Years Ago - My wife had a Gran Mal seizure on a friend's front porch.  The seizure came unexpectedly and as far as we know it was her first one.  The seizure was preceded by slurred speech, incoherent/random thoughts, depression, and mood swings - similar to someone who is really, really drunk.  Luckily I was there to catch her so she didn't suffer any injuries.  We did go to the hospital but she was discharged from the ER only 4 hours later.  She was consulted by a Neurologist that said it was nothing and sent her on her way without a diagnosis, drugs, etc.  Here EEG - we later found out - was abnormal.

April 1, 2010 - My wife and I went to lunch and came home to take a nap.  I slept for about an hour but she didn't get up until about 5 hours later.  That evening we went to dinner, came home, and she fell right back to sleep (probably around 8-ish).  I eventually ended up coming to bed at around 11:30pm.  Just as I was drifting off to sleep at about 11:45, she suddenly sat up violently, yelled, and practically fell out of bed.  I felt her having a seizure, turned on the lights, and found blood everywhere.  I immediately recognized she was having a Gran Mal (due to the seizure 5 yrs before) but this time she had bitten her tounge very badly.  I got my wife centered in the bed, called the medics, and tried to explain to her what had happened.  I don't think she would have believed me except for her chewed up tounge and blood everywhere.  At any rate, by the time the medics got there (about 20 minutes later) she was aware, talking, and coherent.  So much so, the medics told us that she didn't need to go with them but that she should go to the hospital so we decided to drive ourselves.  The medics left (about 1 hr after the first seizure) and I started helping my wife find clothes to put on for our journey to the hospital...  While she was looking for underwear she suddenly froze and just started staring.  I was able to get her attention and "bring her back" into reality but then it happened again.  I started to worry that she was going to have another seizure so I kept "bringing her back" by shaking her and saying her name over and over again but the staring spells started coming faster and faster.  Luckily we did make it back onto the bed where she had a second Gran Mal (about 1.25 hrs after the first one)...  As a side note, it is utterly terrifying to watch someone you love go through a Gran Mal - I am very glad she doesn't remember and I wish I could forget too. So back came the ambulance and this time she went to the hospital with them...  And this time she was pretty much out of it (unlike the first seizure).  I arrived at the ER just behind the ambulance and while they were trying to start an IV, she suffered a 3rd Gran Mal (about 2.5 hours after the first one).  At this point they started giving her IV Dilantin, Morphine, and Daladin.  She spend the next two days in the hospital and came home with a prescription of Dilantin.This seizure, just like the one 5 years prior, was preceded by a large number of "symptoms" including slurred speech, irrational thoughts, slow cognition, hiccups, and large amounts of sleep.  These started about 2 weeks before the seizure but also included a shopping spree the weekend before (almost a manic type behavior), among some other bizarre occurrences.

August 14, 2010 - After seeing two local neurologists and getting poor feedback we decided to go to a specialist in Seattle.  Between the time of the April seizures my wife had been put on Dilantin and Lamictal (they were attempting to titrate up the Lamical and eventually taper down the Dilantin).  After seeing the specialist in Seattle - who is a very well respected researcher - he set her up with a new med schedule, set appointments for another MRI, EEG, and a follow-up appointment.  He wanted my wife to taper down the Dilantin, maintain the Lamictal, and added Zonisimide (sp?) to mix.  During the following two weeks my wife started falling into her pre-seizure "symptoms" - the most unsettling being the hiccups.  I called the neurologist nearly every day asking what could be done but he told me her "symptoms" were abnormal pre-seizure activity.  Sure enough, on Saturday morning, my wife suffered yet another Gran Mal seizure...  And once again I was lucky enough to be in the same room and caught her as she fell.  This time, however, when she finally woke up, she completely freaked out.  I was instructed to NOT call the medics and instead call the on call Neurologist for instructions.  But when my wife was awake enough to move around she decided to bolt for the door.  I ended up calling the medics because the situation got out of hand.  I had to wrestle my wife to the ground over and over again for about 15 minutes while my neighbor helped get the ambulance to our house.  By the time help had arrived she had calmed down and finally realized that she had a seizure.

Behavior/Mood Issues:

Since the last seizure it has been a downward slide on the crazy scale.  My wife never really seemed to "clear" from the last seizure, had extremely bad anxiety, depression, and just hasn't been herself.  The neurologist took her off the Zonisimide due to a suspected rash and she is now taking an anti anxiety medication in addition to her old dose of Dilantin and Lamictal.  She continues to have random slurred speech and acts like she is drunk sometimes - especially in the evening before bed.  Her memory is horrible and she just started a 3 month leave from work.  We think she might have had a seizure in her sleep a few nights ago but I didn't wake up.  Luckily she has not bitten her tounge during any of the seizures since the April event so there has been no visible trauma.In addition to the depress/anxious moods, she has also been very angry/mean.  This is highly unusual for her...  And to make things even more confusing, in the last two days she has almost become manic with behavior such as fast/loud speech, lowered inhibitions, and random scattered thoughts.  I honestly will not be surprised if she tries to go on another shopping spree - which is unlikely to happen because she isn't allowed to drive. I've since had to take over monitoring her meds since she has messed up her dosages because she can't remember taking them or not.  Every count on all her meds was off...  On the positive side, her most recent MRI came up normal and she is scheduled for a VEEG for Sept. 7.  Hopefully we will have some answers soon.  This is destroying our lives and every day feels like a bad dream.  And symptoms are getting worse every day... 

Questions:

Has anyone else experienced the sever mood changes, and strange behavior before, during, or after a seizure?  Is this normal or is it more related to the drugs?

Mood disorders seem like a normal thing with epilepsy, but how long should they last?  On a scale of 1-10 (10 being the woman I have know for the 8 years prior to these events) my wife is at best 5 most days...  I am really worried that there are other things going on here.

How can I help her even when she doesn't think or doesn't want help?  Could someone offer techniques/skills in communication?  Sometime I feel like I am trying to convince a really drunk person to do something when they have their own agenda.

Can anyone recommend a place (other than these forums) that would be a good resource for my personal support?  Since April I have not slept very well and actually think I may have a little PTSD.  I sleep light and reactive to even the smallest noise...  And I can sense my own personality shifting slightly...

Any other thoughts or things to relate to this story? 

 

 

I really appreciate any feedback, support, or words of encouragement since this seems like one of our darkest hours.  It has put a tremendous amount of stress on our marriage, our finances, and nearly every aspect of our lives.  I hope to someday get my wife back so we can end this bad dream.  

 

 

Comments

Re: My wife, epilepsy, and abnormal behavior - My Perspective

Submitted by dasha vu on Mon, 2011-04-25 - 01:15

Meds!! I take Keppra only. Started on 1000mg daily and I weened myself to 500mg. I still have "spells" every 10 or so days but no gran mal.  Some side effects but I can manage. I wish they had something to make my husband forget!

Meds!! I take Keppra only. Started on 1000mg daily and I weened myself to 500mg. I still have "spells" every 10 or so days but no gran mal.  Some side effects but I can manage. I wish they had something to make my husband forget!

Re: My wife, epilepsy, and abnormal behavior - My Perspective

Submitted by freda13 on Fri, 2011-04-29 - 15:02

I feel for you, my husband has been through so much with my condidtion, my frist Grandmal siezure was back in 2004, I hit the ground on cemet(face frist) which also caused frontal lob brain injery, Since all this started happening I have not been able to keep a job due to memory loss, and decrease in conginative functioning. I have hid a lot of my siezures, confusion, and loss of time as much as possible. The stress this causes my husband is overwelming. It took over to yrs to get my drivers licenese back, and it was not easy! A few days ago I was pulling up into a so ca walmart, smelled that burning rubber smell, the bright lights in the store seemed to cause a patial siecure, I never lost cousiness, but barely remeber anything eles. My memory is slowly coming back and it seems to be coming through in dreams. I had a dream last night I was digging through boxes, reorganzing items.

I felt in a daze but held on to my cart. The next thing I remeber I was walking down a busy street, I asked a passer by where Walmart was, and walked the two miles back to my car still parked in the parking lot. When I came home my huband immediately noticed I was clearely out of it. I was so tried I went to bed, the next morining while my husband left for 15. min (he was afraid to leave me alone for to long) that smell came while leaning on our kitchen counter, the bright light, still do not recall losing cousious, but suddenly without my control I urinated all over my self. I know something very bad happened at Walmart, I checked my purse and walmart bag nothing out of sorts. But last night I dreamed three men grabed me as i was leaving walmart and put me in a room telling me not to say a word or I would be put in jail! It is not at all common for people who suffer with non-convulise siezures take on behavior which looks deliberate that is not in the persons control. Often they have been arested or locked up in mental health facilities. My Doctors have all said my grand-mal and patial siecures are triggered by extreem stress. years ago I was married to a police officer during our seperation he stocked me, and even tried to kill me! Even my attornys were afraid of him, and had body guards walk them to thier cars when ever we went to court. Being up close and personal when it comes to cops sticking togather, and what I know they can get away with I an terrified of the police. I now believe I was arrested possibly mistreated or treatended, and I have blocked the memory due to the PTS I have suffered from my x husband and his cop friends, beleive there is a code of blue, and if you divorce a cop who dose not want you to leave, you have a problem. I am afraid to call the K-Mart I was in, if I did get arrested it would hurt my husband and I am so afraid! Since this happened three days ago I have had four seizures. I have made an appointment with my specilist, if anyone out there has had anything like this happen please let me know. Bits of this are coming back, and I remeber telling someone about my seizures, and they said they would still call the police. I think I may have put something in my purse, and they thought i was steeling, possibley I was hand cuffed because my wrist are very sore, and bursed the Police Department is not far from Walmart, but what police station allow someone in my condition to walk almost two miles, and a down a busy street through a bad area in order to get to my car? Very possibly if the cops were involved, they would have gotten a special tag on my record stating I had a police officers conditential flag. So if they new I was had divorced from one of thier own all bets were off concering my health or saftey! I have never been in any trouble before, and now with these dream type memories I am afraid! I even thought about ............but that would just cause more pain to those who love me. Also a few years ago I tapped the back of a car in front of me after working, the guy hit just said let it go there is no damage, suddenly a cop appeared, he took me around the corner after discoving I was an X wife of a brother in blue and jammed so heard against that wall my knees buckled from fear! Finely I begged him to check me with a breathalzer, he got mad and said"listen you bitch, I can take you to jail for anything I feel like! How much retirement and support do you suck out of your x husbands pay check every month! you bitches marry us, then take us to cleaners!" When my test came back with a all clear he walked me back to where my car was and on lookers, and yelled "She's OK , just not used to her father's car brakes" Now what the hell did that mean~ my father wanted to report him, but then decided bad things my happen to us! So between the brain injery, siezures, and PTSS, how can I fight what I can not remember! if you tell me to get legel help, I can not AFFORD IT! tHANKS FOR THE TIME

Freda13

Fredaree7@aol.com

I feel for you, my husband has been through so much with my condidtion, my frist Grandmal siezure was back in 2004, I hit the ground on cemet(face frist) which also caused frontal lob brain injery, Since all this started happening I have not been able to keep a job due to memory loss, and decrease in conginative functioning. I have hid a lot of my siezures, confusion, and loss of time as much as possible. The stress this causes my husband is overwelming. It took over to yrs to get my drivers licenese back, and it was not easy! A few days ago I was pulling up into a so ca walmart, smelled that burning rubber smell, the bright lights in the store seemed to cause a patial siecure, I never lost cousiness, but barely remeber anything eles. My memory is slowly coming back and it seems to be coming through in dreams. I had a dream last night I was digging through boxes, reorganzing items.

I felt in a daze but held on to my cart. The next thing I remeber I was walking down a busy street, I asked a passer by where Walmart was, and walked the two miles back to my car still parked in the parking lot. When I came home my huband immediately noticed I was clearely out of it. I was so tried I went to bed, the next morining while my husband left for 15. min (he was afraid to leave me alone for to long) that smell came while leaning on our kitchen counter, the bright light, still do not recall losing cousious, but suddenly without my control I urinated all over my self. I know something very bad happened at Walmart, I checked my purse and walmart bag nothing out of sorts. But last night I dreamed three men grabed me as i was leaving walmart and put me in a room telling me not to say a word or I would be put in jail! It is not at all common for people who suffer with non-convulise siezures take on behavior which looks deliberate that is not in the persons control. Often they have been arested or locked up in mental health facilities. My Doctors have all said my grand-mal and patial siecures are triggered by extreem stress. years ago I was married to a police officer during our seperation he stocked me, and even tried to kill me! Even my attornys were afraid of him, and had body guards walk them to thier cars when ever we went to court. Being up close and personal when it comes to cops sticking togather, and what I know they can get away with I an terrified of the police. I now believe I was arrested possibly mistreated or treatended, and I have blocked the memory due to the PTS I have suffered from my x husband and his cop friends, beleive there is a code of blue, and if you divorce a cop who dose not want you to leave, you have a problem. I am afraid to call the K-Mart I was in, if I did get arrested it would hurt my husband and I am so afraid! Since this happened three days ago I have had four seizures. I have made an appointment with my specilist, if anyone out there has had anything like this happen please let me know. Bits of this are coming back, and I remeber telling someone about my seizures, and they said they would still call the police. I think I may have put something in my purse, and they thought i was steeling, possibley I was hand cuffed because my wrist are very sore, and bursed the Police Department is not far from Walmart, but what police station allow someone in my condition to walk almost two miles, and a down a busy street through a bad area in order to get to my car? Very possibly if the cops were involved, they would have gotten a special tag on my record stating I had a police officers conditential flag. So if they new I was had divorced from one of thier own all bets were off concering my health or saftey! I have never been in any trouble before, and now with these dream type memories I am afraid! I even thought about ............but that would just cause more pain to those who love me. Also a few years ago I tapped the back of a car in front of me after working, the guy hit just said let it go there is no damage, suddenly a cop appeared, he took me around the corner after discoving I was an X wife of a brother in blue and jammed so heard against that wall my knees buckled from fear! Finely I begged him to check me with a breathalzer, he got mad and said"listen you bitch, I can take you to jail for anything I feel like! How much retirement and support do you suck out of your x husbands pay check every month! you bitches marry us, then take us to cleaners!" When my test came back with a all clear he walked me back to where my car was and on lookers, and yelled "She's OK , just not used to her father's car brakes" Now what the hell did that mean~ my father wanted to report him, but then decided bad things my happen to us! So between the brain injery, siezures, and PTSS, how can I fight what I can not remember! if you tell me to get legel help, I can not AFFORD IT! tHANKS FOR THE TIME

Freda13

Fredaree7@aol.com

Re: My wife, epilepsy, and abnormal behavior - My Perspective

Submitted by GodivaGirl on Sat, 2011-05-07 - 00:19
Hello There, I am older than both you and your wife and a woman who is epileptic, soon to be 37. The difference is I was diagnosed at age 5, taken off meds for a tiny part of my life then put right back on them at age 16. I only got maybe a 4 year break from medications. So, really for me while my seizures are less severe, it is possible my complex partial seizures happen more frequently & have in my life so I'm much more ok that "Epilepsy" and "Seizures" have to be a part of my identity. When I was with my ex, it was like that from day 1. He knew straight up front I was epileptic, and he was going to deal with a girl who would space out at any given time, so he just called me his space cadet. I carried medications, he'd remind me at restaurants to take my "vitamins". We worked it into life. You would be surprised to know, I walked out on him because while nothing was wrong with him medically, he never really held down a job, and I actually have a university education in sociology & criminology and at one point in time I was an account manager for a technology company but as they downsized too much I ended up with a lower paying job so I couldn't afford life with him. Moved home with my parents & am now pursuing neurosurgery. As to your questions. Seizures - I never remember them, but if you were to ask my ex, he'd say for sure strange things happened back when I was with him. I left him in spring 2008, and have met someone new since late 2009. I'm still at home because neurosurgery referrals, etc. have taken forever & won't be done until the end of this year. If you were to ask the guy I'm with now, he would tell you there are times we are in restaurants & he just pays the bill, we end up at his place, my meal ends up in his fridge & I don't remember a thing. He'd also tell you there are times where all he does at a restaurant is move my silverware for a bit, get some high power medication in me, talk to me for 5 minutes, we finish supper & while I don't remember, I feel ok, we go to his place, he watches hockey & I fall asleep for a bit, he drives me home & it's all good. So, yes strange things happen. As far as mood swings - if you were to ask the love of my life right now his answer would be, ummmmm...she's female. We go on the idea, I'm crazy, he's nuts, just because we are opposites in many ways. Thing is seizure drugs have an impact. If you thought PMS was brutal for your wife before, seizure meds intensify that. One other thing as I read this, it looks like your wife is doing what many people I know have done, that I never understand. It must be a difference in USA versus Canada (I'm in Ontario, Canada). Doctors like to medication jump more and more. If people just come out and say they don't like one it's ok, take this. In a year I see about 4 medications where it is add/subtract. Like I tell my boss as doctors increase my medications, these are more powerful than Tylenol 3's even. So, playing add/subtract, sure it's going to have an impact & a pretty powerful one. To prep for surgery and try to stop seizures they have tripled all 3 meds I'm on (Topomax, Keppra, Clobazam). It has impacted me the most at work but in other ways as well. I tell people I know picture one day being on Tylenol, then 2 weeks later permanently taking Tylenol 3's. What they are doing to your wife is basically saying OK drug a didn't work, so ummmmm..lets add in a new one. How do you feel when you are sick & have to take tylenol &/or cold medicine. My boyfriend owned up and admitted he gets grumpy & wants to be left alone. With that in mind I said to him, so how can you expect me to be the same day after day pumpped full of stuff more powerful than either one of those all the time. Then he understood. He does things to cheer me up, and he's now the smile at the end of hard days. He knows when to back off after a hard day at work. All I can say is communication between each other is going to be key. It sounds like you are at a beginning stage where more is going to fall on your wife where she needs to accept epilepsy as part of her identity, tougher than you think. And as opposed to thinking this may go away, you need to give in and accept her for her. You can have a sense of humor, my ex & I always did, so do my current boyfriend and I. I'm on powerful medication to make me sleep at night, he kids around and says ok, time to get ya home before ya turn into a pumpkin. I always tell him I'm his zombie girl. Then his buddies tell him that he's all set for Zombieland, because I'm his sidekick. Accept her for her. Check out an epilepsy foundation - there are probably support groups. As someone in canada, not sure the usa one. FYI though - www.cnsuwo.ca - take a look at the March 11th article, that's an intense research study that I'm in, and the epilepsy program from that site is what I'm going through. Good Luck ~GG

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