Community Forum Archive

The Epilepsy Community Forums are closed, and the information is archived. The content in this section may not be current or apply to all situations. In addition, forum questions and responses include information and content that has been generated by epilepsy community members. This content is not moderated. The information on these pages should not be substituted for medical advice from a healthcare provider. Experiences with epilepsy can vary greatly on an individual basis. Please contact your doctor or medical team if you have any questions about your situation. For more information, learn about epilepsy or visit our resources section.

Medic Alert. Police ignoring.

Sun, 11/28/2004 - 18:56
About 4 months ago now I had a seizure while driving. I hit a building. I woke up handcuffed in the back of a police car. I asked where I was. The officer told me I was drunk and had an accident. I told him "I don't drink, I had a seizure" and then lost consciousness again. I was wearing my "medic alert" bracelet it states "Epilepsy" Rather than taking me to a hospital I was put in a cell to "sober up". I asked for my medication, which was in my pocket, and was refused. When they finally let me go, after 8 hours and a breathalizer that came back Zero, I asked why did he have to put the cuffs so tight. It was because of how I was behaving. I'm sure most who read this post know basic first aid for seizures. 1) do not restrain 2) don't expect person to follow orders 3) do not withhold medication. Shouldn't our Police know this??? Medic Alert has recommended that I press charges. They tell me that the police are supposed to Respect Medic Alert Information. Especially if there is an ID Number. How many people wear a bracelet for 10 years and carry around anti-convulsants to beat a drunk driving charge??? Sorry this is so long. I am frustrated. I have a trial for this in 1 month. How many of you wolud file a complaint?? Thanks for you time. Stacey

Comments

RE: Medic Alert. Police ignoring.

Submitted by doksdarlin on Sun, 2004-05-16 - 17:36
I wasn't trying to make you feel worse. Please understand you did not explain your seizures in the post. And as I stated I had a scary incident happen to me that makes me afraid to drive if I even have a hint of a seizure, even a slight dizzy spell and I won't drive. I almost blacked out cold driving once and it scared me to death. This was just before I was diagnosed, and I didn't even know at the time what had happened. I didn't know it was a seizure. I was sent to the ER that day and the battery of test run, and about a week later I found out I had Epilepsy. I understand the feeling totally. I've had close calls and I would get home and refuse to drive for as long as I felt nessicary. I don't feel good about driving to this day, because I still have dizzy spells everyday, but I have only had one actual seizure in the past 2 years that I'm aware of. I have other issues to deal with. My concern was for you and anyone else who might have been hurt, you can understand that I'm sure. I wasn't jumping on you. Just trying to help you to see that there may be another side to the issue... The police did not do what they were supposed to, granted. But they also may not have really known what they were dealing with. I am not trying to take any blame away from them, they should have taken what you said seriously, and checked into the possiblity. But do you know what they deal with on a day to day basis? Do you realize that most of the time when they come across that exact same situation, Epilepsy is not the cause of the accident, some form of substance is. So that is what they base their judgement on, from experience. I know it's wrong, and yes they do need training in such fields, to better understand these things. But had it been the other way around and had they assumed a drunk or addict had a medical condition, and did not handcuff them, they could have been hurt or killed in the same situation. I am only playing the devils advicate here, don't take it the wrong way. I too have Epilepsy, and in the same situation I would hope they would trust what I told them. But I can also see where they may be coming from. You need to sue the department maybe, but not the individual cops, because they did not receive the training they should have gotten. That is the police department and the city's fault.

RE: Medic Alert. Police ignoring.

Submitted by Rhea1965 on Sun, 2004-05-16 - 12:22
Press Charges; If they are to blind to see and to not take notice of a Medic Alert then they need to be hit in the back pocket for being negligible and putting acitizen in more danger or even death!

RE: Medic Alert. Police ignoring.

Submitted by mexican_fire on Sat, 2004-06-19 - 14:09
I hope that you live here in the US, because what they did was illegal, and should have never happened.As an EMT, and someone who has had their fair share of hospitals, urgent cares, and ERs, I can honestly say, that that situation was handled with the poorest taste there is.Yes, they should know better, but if your symptoms were not cut and dried as to why you were behaving that way, they wouldn't know, and when they are arresting a baligerant person of any kind, they NEVER look for medical tags. Their job is just to get as much of the information back to dispatch as it seems to them, and then if they need the EMTs, and medics, they will have them called. They realy don't have the means to treat a person, let alone a seizure patient who is in-seizure, so they don't try to. It's really the medical sqauds responsibility to do this, and we do. The role of the cop is just as a first responder to the scence to secure it for EMS or fire.But, yes, usually if somone is conscious and they are wandering in the street or whever, they will stop traffic and go find out. Usually seizures, diabetes and drunkedness are the usual suspects.With your trial, you need to go to whatever doc or docs you have that know of your epilepsy, and get them to varify that you have it, what types, and what happens during each one, get it signed, and take it with you along with your wrist, and medicine. The more they have to go on, the better your chances are for getting off with a minimal fine, or even no fine. IT WAS WRONG!!!!!!That is where the ADA of 1990 should have come in, and it may in court.I had an accident back in 2002--december and took a tree head on, and have not driven since then.I was never fined or arrested, or cited or given points, by the cops who were dispatched to the scene. They just took an accident report and reported it to the insurance company, so when I ever do get a car, I will be in the high rist cateagory again. That went away at 25, and now 6 years later it comes back until the 3 years are done. They looked at my bracelet in the truck(a friend and classmate of mine was the driver), and she know I had seizures, so she told her partner to see if I had anything on me. he found it looked at it, and the same thing when I got to the ER, tabout 5 different people looked at my bracelet.I have only wond a bracelt as a permanent fixture for almost 4 years, and I have had it changed three time due to medication changes.I had the cheap variety from Wal-Mart for alot years that just said see wallet card, it too served its purpose.I don't have to beat off a court date, or charge with my meds or bracelet, but I have trouble with my family accepting me over it. They pretty much disown me, and say some pretty cruel things.Good luck with this, and let me know what comes of it.Nancy

Sign Up for Emails

Stay up to date with the latest epilepsy news, stories from the community, and more.