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Ecstatic Seizures

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 07:32

 Hi

Has anyone experienced "ecstatic" seizures?  I've had a series of them recently, and they are amazing: totally outside the range of normal experience and by far the best experiences of my life!  I'm not religious or "spiritual" but recognise that they could be construed by others as deep and meaningful life changing events...evidence of the "divine" as opposed to neurological events. 

I've been told by my neurologist they are very rare and I've not been able to find out much about them/share experiences. 

Victoria

Hello all,  I'm adding this comment just over a month after the original post having realised that the thread is now incredibly confusing and there are some misunderstandings following what seem to be random postings.   You may want to follow the date order of the posts before making comments or coming to conclusions.   

Regards,

Victoria

Comments

Re: Ecstatic Seizures

Submitted by victoria.w on Tue, 2009-09-08 - 21:23
Hello all, I hope I haven’t offended anyone with my disbelief: the “God” issue is such an emotive one and I really don’t want to cause offence but it is an interesting debate.For me, existing in the here and now is enough.  I find meaning in other people, not a “God” and I don’t think that reduces me as a person in any way.   Perhaps it’s unfortunate, but I can no more believe in God than I can believe in fairies or angels.  It’s not as if I haven’t given it considerable thought: I was brought up a Catholic (like you Johnny) and I spent several years from about the age of 8 grappling with this issue.  My position hasn’t changed.   I recognise the symbolism of my seizures, and yes, I too, in my first ecstatic seizure felt the presence of an omnipotent force, experienced the divine light, waves of energy, felt totally at peace, at one with the universe etc….and I may well have come to the conclusion that I’d undergone some “divine transfiguration” or been touched by God, but I did not.   My more recent ecstatic seizures, they too, are truly amazing.  They open up a “heavenly world” – a parallel universe where the beauty and intensity of the moment is indescribable and the concept of self and time become meaningless.  (There’s more I can say but I’ll keep it brief rather than struggle and fail to capture the experience.) As privileged as I am to have these experiences they have not led me to God. But as I stated in a previous post, I respect the opinions and beliefs of others (maybe I’m even a bit envious).  Ultimately, I don’t think the issue is that important as long as we all try to do right by people and treat each other with compassion, kindness and respect.  I think what we do, is far more important that what we believe.   Victoria….

 

 

Re: Ecstatic Seizures

Submitted by zealot on Thu, 2009-09-10 - 00:26
Victoria, I'm with you. How we live our lives is much more important than what we believe. I think we've all had similar experiences, but how we interpret them is different. I have studied Bhuddism and practice Tai Chi, various Yoga technique and Bhuddist meditations and you are right: the most important thing is living in the here and now. What all of these Eastern philophies share is a belief in a life force energy that infuses everyrhing in this universe. You don't have to call it G-d. We have been priveleged enough to see it although the price we pay is heavy. It's better not to seizures, but my life would not be the same without them. I would miss my connection to the universe. I would miss my native ability to channel Chi or Prana Kundalini, whatever you want to call it. We have a window into a world that mystics and Yogis and shamans devote tbeir lives to attain. There's no such thing as a free lunch in this universe; it would violate the laws of physics. I cannot imagine having my life any other way. Zealot

Re: Ecstatic Seizures

Submitted by victoria.w on Fri, 2009-09-11 - 20:06

Hi Zealot,

Yours is a good post for me to read today; sometimes I feel totally screwed up and I've had a bad few days.  I can wax lyrical and use words to try and retain control or give the illusion of control, but I have days of immense confusion and sadness so while I agree with you up to a point, I can't help thinking that normality may be a better type of existence.  Other times, I'm totally with you!  I think "conflicted" is the word I'm looking for...

Victoria     

Hi Zealot,

Yours is a good post for me to read today; sometimes I feel totally screwed up and I've had a bad few days.  I can wax lyrical and use words to try and retain control or give the illusion of control, but I have days of immense confusion and sadness so while I agree with you up to a point, I can't help thinking that normality may be a better type of existence.  Other times, I'm totally with you!  I think "conflicted" is the word I'm looking for...

Victoria     

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