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Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

So are Auras themselves a type of seizure? or are they just a warning feeling before the actual seizure?

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Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

Hi kroger,

 

I'm under the impression that auras are partial seizures. If you have a partial seizure that sometimes leads up to a generalized seizure, then you can call it an aura/warning. But auras, in their own right, are just smaller seizures. That's my understanding of it - maybe someone else knows otherwise or can explain it better. 

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

I have been told that they are seizures but for me about to spread to a complex partial and can go to a grand mal.  So I use them to help control mine.

 

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

That was a great question Kroger. I wish I had an answer. My seizures  tend to be grand mals and I would call the sensation/warning I had prior to them an aura. I never even really considered that they might be a different kind of seizure. My seizures have mostly been early morning seizures...within an hour or so of waking. I usually start off feeling bad, headachy and kind of foggy. The headache is intense not so much in terms of the degree of pain but in terms of the degree that it pretty much consumes me (for lack of a better word). I also have a horrible sense of dread that something really bad is going to happen which clues me in that I may be getting ready to have a seizure. My auras often last for 15-20 minutes so thank God I have warninig to alert someone, get to a safe place...never had one while driving but it would certainly give me time to get to the side of the road...from the time I start to have one, I would have enough time to realize I would soon not be in a condition to drive. The last time I had a seizure, my heart also started to race. I had my younger daughter who was home at the time call my parents since I was hoping I could head it off (sometimes I can, sometimes not). I tried to deep breathe and calm down but didn't head it off. Some posts from here indicate that deep breathing or a different kind of breath can provoke seizures so maybe my attempt to head it off brought it on even stronger...OOOPS! I guess many people have different types of auras and maybe some auras are seizures and some are not. That is a super question for a neurologist. I plan to ask mine next time I go...thanks for the food for thought!

BarbG

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

peace R.C.

 Hi NOT HIGH ......I have been undergoing a serious "aura" -de-javu" for several days now

 Intense , The day before this I have undergone a medicince change and I had to drop it for a day to go to my grandmas's funeral and the medicince made me very tired .

  I dropped the med. and ever since have went through an aura along with de-javu I feel like I,m coming out of my skin ,deep dark, mystical feelings .

 If this gets much more intesne I think I will come unglued ,one min. I feel like I am 170lbs. the next I feel I am 300lbs. the eeriest feeling then all over the aura overtakes me with fear,panic.

  I feel like someone is playing piano inside of me and doing the walt on my stomach ,I have thrown up about 5 times I know I can't look normal . I had 4 seizures the night before .

  I had to send my daughter to the store because I can not move hardly at all . These internal feelings are so intense I may not be able to take this anymore.As I write this I "feel" there is an intense wave over me and it will not let go ,with this heat wave outside this "aura" gets more intense I just need to get out .What a trip .

  I often refer to this as the l.s.d. effect and have not felt it since I did a lot of drugs,my air conditioner is not "cold" enough although it is, it does not feel like it ,I am in a cold sweat with that empty feeling in my stomach 

   Please make this leave ,what an intense RUSH ........I am an intense guy anyway full of drama and this just adds to it in triple ,I can barely type this because of the feelings from my head and body,It is hard to stay on any type of focus because of it . What a trip.          Rick

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

I know exactly what you are going through. I have had the intense Deja Vu feeling for 15 years and almost black out. Sometimes I hear music and sometimes I lose my memory after. I have done LSD and the Aura feeling is fairly similar to the simple partial seizure effect. I feel like your description is true to life when you say that it feels like someone is playing a piano inside of you.

I had told my doctor about this feeling and he just laughed, but it wasn't until I was rushed by ambulance to an emergency room that they suggested I go see a neurologist. Maybe you should do the same.

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

peace R.C.

Hi not high! Yes these AURA'S ARE SZS. as the info. provided in the links shows ,Thanks.

Yes Michael your right  and if I thought some good would come from it I would have checked in days ago . It is more complicated than than ,I am a single father of a 12 yr. old girl ,just starting school yr. ,I missed enrollment because I was so wasted ,I never let myself get this tweaked before while in postictal state,this is different .

The de-ja-vu feelings have lifted "somewhat" but I still found myself pacing floors in the A.M. hrs. last night with my mind racing weak,tired,not in sz. and not really psychotic but just postical and almost vibrating ,exhaustion!

Yes I used a L.S.D. Psychedelic explanation in a V.A.. Neuro's office and a E clinic with some top notch folks and they wrote them down and still use them as reference notes..

  I need to switch my notes from the last post and say I had 5 seperate gran-mals Fri. night and was probably in Aura before that but was not making the reference as I should have been. 

  After yrs. of reading peoples journals and references on this sight and others I can safely say I have carried an aura my whole life and am the poster child for A.D.D./A.D.H.D.  and hyper-sensitive in hearing ,taste and often smell and have or have had some real odd ball and often high I.Q. relatives and although I am the olny one who has seizures ,you would think more of them did ? Real odd ball stuff lol.

    This latest experience is approaching some of the least desirable feelings I have ever had ,well as far as the szs go anyway lol .  

   Had I understood the AURA feelings better yrs ago I may have prevented a few mishaps I had over the yrs. 

    Please be careful as we try to understand our brains. Rick 

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

I have been having seizures since the age of 13, I'm now 25 and pregnant with my first child. I have the very same feelings in my auras. I know exactly what you all go through. I get the very strong sense of deja vu and impending dread. I sometimes get a very strong metallic taste in my mouth that tastes aweful and lasts way too long. I get sick to my stomach, my lips go numb, and sometimes will get boughts of insomnia where sleep becomes impossible because of strange foggy feelings of fear, doom, confusion, anxiety and other mixed emotions that I can't control. I just wondered if anyone ever experienced this leading into a partial-complex seizure with uncontrolled fits of rage, anger, punching something near you, and screaming as loud as you can?? I experianced this and it was the scariest thing I have every been through in my life. The doctors at the hospital gave me Ativan to help control it, and it did help me feel better.

I know a lot of time has

I know a lot of time has passed since you posted this comment but it was very interesting reading it because my brother has same symptoms as yours and we have been struggling to understand this. Auras usually last only a minute or 2, but like you, my brother has the same feeling for 15 minutes prior to his tonic clonic. His EEG has showm genetalized spikes, and his neuro thinks that what he is experiencing is not “true aura”. But I am sure his warning signs are true aura. He becomes sweaty and very scared for 15 minutes and just a few seconds before his grand mal he knows that it is only a few seconds away and he says something like “it’s happening”. He then becomes unconscious, and has mild tremors with his muscles stiff. When he wakes up he is confused for 2,3 minute only, but he vomits for a good 2,3 hours.

Do you have same symptoms? And what kind of epilepsy have you been diagnosed with?

Hope you get to read this.

I know a lot of time has

I know a lot of time has passed since you posted this comment but it was very interesting reading it because my brother has same symptoms as yours and we have been struggling to understand this. Auras usually last only a minute or 2, but like you, my brother has the same feeling for 15 minutes prior to his tonic clonic. His EEG has showm genetalized spikes, and his neuro thinks that what he is experiencing is not “true aura”. But I am sure his warning signs are true aura. He becomes sweaty and very scared for 15 minutes and just a few seconds before his grand mal he knows that it is only a few seconds away and he says something like “it’s happening”. He then becomes unconscious, and has mild tremors with his muscles stiff. When he wakes up he is confused for 2,3 minute only, but he vomits for a good 2,3 hours.

Do you have same symptoms? And what kind of epilepsy have you been diagnosed with?

Hope you get to read this.

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

rjw19

I've usually seen them described as "warnings", but i agree they are essentially small seizures. Even though I remain concious, it affects the same part of my brain where speech is located (temporal lobe) and I cannot speak or sometimes comprehend what is said for up to 15 minutes after an aura.

I have learned to use my auras to help determine if there is a consistent cause. So stress is a major factor, and auras will result if I'm stressed. Also diet (especially cheese from cow's milk - my neurologist doesn't believ me!), as difficulty digesting can set off auras. I can eat goat's cheese no problem (it is much easier to digest). Also, getting sufficient sleep and not staying up too late is critical.

So look for consistencies in when they happen and what might be a trigger - this could help you control the auras and seizures.

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

I believe auras are also simple partial siezures, and what happens after is complex partial or beyond. But they are only called auras, if something happens after them like a grand mal or complex partial.

Although, I think it depends on what is actually happening. With me, it seems my auras (which are generally depersonlization) might be a migraine varient function, but while having an EEG and having what I believed to be an aura at the time, it showed up as epileptic activity.

So I don't know! hahaha. 

 

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Peace, Love, Mung Beans

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

So if everyone thinks the auras are seizures if I have these symptoms all the time does that mean I have the seizures all the time???

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

I can have my so called 'auras' for up to a day, I can have it go to sleep and wake up with it ... I have had them for longer.

Im not totally sure about mine ... but we thought this aura I was getting was a migraine varient aura. But I had an EEG, while I was having one, and it came up a epileptic activity.

 

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Peace, Love, Mung Beans

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

Thats the exact same as mine but I have ellectric surges and left side of my face goes num for weeks at a time sometimes. Dr says they are simple partial even when they go further and get worse

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

My auras or simple partials .. are usually just depersonalization and derealization which dont go with any physical symptoms except for sheer terror and fear! They may then move on to something else.

 

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Peace, Love, Mung Beans

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

I have an EEG in two days for the Deja Vu/ Aura feeling. Except they are getting worse and I almost blacked out the last time I had my "spells" so I finally sought the help of a neurologist.

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

Kate Paterson South Africa

 

I have always had an aura and I used them as a warning.  As a migraine sufferer I also used to get auras so I would never know if I was going to have a migraine or a seizure.  Now I no longer have many migraines so the aura usually indicates a seizure.  If I have an aura for 10 minutes or more I don't have my simple partial seizures.  However if they last longer I believe they are seizures in themselves as I usually feel "odd".  If you have a look on the net you will find a lot but to quote something I found...:Aura - Some people who have simple partial seizures experience unusual sensations that warn them that they are about to have a seizure.  This premonitory state is called an aura.  Auras take several forms:  1) sometimes it is perceived as a sinking feeling in teh pit of the stomach or a sense of "deja vu". 2) sometimes it takes the form of auditory hallucinations, like an advertising jingle.  A person experiencing an aura is having a simple partial seizure without losing consiousnes."

 Unfortunately I cannot recall the web address but google aura

Hope that helps

KateP

 

 

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

Kate Paterson South Africa

 

I have always had an aura and I used them as a warning.  As a migraine sufferer I also used to get auras so I would never know if I was going to have a migraine or a seizure.  Now I no longer have many migraines so the aura usually indicates a seizure.  If I have an aura for 10 minutes or more I don't have my simple partial seizures.  However if they last longer I believe they are seizures in themselves as I usually feel "odd".  If you have a look on the net you will find a lot but to quote something I found...:Aura - Some people who have simple partial seizures experience unusual sensations that warn them that they are about to have a seizure.  This premonitory state is called an aura.  Auras take several forms:  1) sometimes it is perceived as a sinking feeling in teh pit of the stomach or a sense of "deja vu". 2) sometimes it takes the form of auditory hallucinations, like an advertising jingle.  A person experiencing an aura is having a simple partial seizure without losing consiousnes."

 Unfortunately I cannot recall the web address but google aura

Hope that helps

KateP

 

 

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

Auras are Simple Partial Seizures.

http://my.epilepsy.com/node/58

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/epileptic+aura

http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/epilepsy/EPI_kinds.html#aura

Bruce (I'm not a doctor, but instead, an epilepsy support group leader, epilepsy advocate, who has epilepsy.)

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

I have aura seizures. They are a type of simple partial seizure. The difference between aura seizures and most other seizures is that you don't lose consiousness. I can usually carry on with what I am doing but often my train of thought is slowed and it will be followed by a headache and "sick to the stomach" feeling.

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

 

I agree with Puddle, I too have auras and my neurologist has told me that they're simple partial seizures so they are a form of seizure in themselves. I don't experience any other form of seizures but because of the worsening simple partials I can no longer drive and am waiting for medication as i have only recently been diagnosed.So my neurologist is definately treating the simple partials as seizures. Hope this helps! 

 

 

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

Being a patient and a Neurodiagnostic Tech. it is interesting listening to a patient say they are having an aura.

An aura is a simple partial sz.  Sometimes  the Technician will see it before the patient states its occurring.  Other times a patient will say something and nothing will be seen and a second or two later you will see the evidence.  It depends on the focus and the depth of the focus.  There are variables of seizure focuses. 

One Neurologist said they are seizures in themselves.  They can accentuate into a larger field of the brain and go into a partial complex seizure.

Re: Are Auras actually seizures? Or are they just "warnings"?

Being a patient and a Neurodiagnostic Tech. it is interesting listening to a patient say they are having an aura.

An aura is a simple partial sz.  Sometimes  the Technician will see it before the patient states its occurring.  Other times a patient will say something and nothing will be seen and a second or two later you will see the evidence.  It depends on the focus and the depth of the focus.  There are variables of seizure focuses. 

One Neurologist said they are seizures in themselves.  They can accentuate into a larger field of the brain and go into a partial complex seizure.

What I have found is that

What I have found is that they are warning signs for me.  I get almost like pins and needles feeling in hands and feet.  That's when I just need to sit and relax, meditate, or use bio-feed back.  I've had epilepsy for 44 years, controlled for 14 years this month.  

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