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Faking seizures?

Hello everyone,

I came with a question I've been asking myself for a few days ... maybe someone here can help.  

I work at an adult education center.There is a studentl there (age 28) who regularly has seizures. I've only seen it happen four or five times in the 2+ years that this person has been with us, but she says that it actually happens quite often (1-2 times a month). She has always been quite adamant that we not call an ambulance when a seizure hits, so we never had until now. This past Wednesday, though, she had multiple seizures in relatively rapid succession, and that time we did call an ambulance.

By the time the ambulance came (about fifteen minutes after we called, since they had a bit of trouble finding us), the student was talking in full sentences and appeared extremely tired, but otherwise OK. It may have been another five minutes or so between her having the seizure, and us deciding that we were going to make that call. 

Among other things, the ambulance crew asked her what medications she was on, and she said Tegretol. I happen to know this is an actual anti-seizure med. My grandson took it for a while.The ambulance crew asked me to describe what had happened, and I did, as best I could. In hindsight, one of the most striking things, to me, was how this student repeatedly struck her head against the pavement.

After a while, though, one of the paramedics began asking me questions I hadn't really expected. Like whether she had talked or sat up while seizing. It seemed to me he was implying that the seizure might be fake. I did a bit of internet research, and found that some people apparently do, in fact, fake seizures for attention. The thing about this student is that she seems more bothered than pleased when people hover over her.

But then again, that paramedic got me thinking. There are a few things that seem weird about this situation. Like for instance: she is a crutch walker and an occasional wheelchair user. I have never witnessed her having a seizure while on crutches; always in the chair. And I don't often see her in the chair. Being in the chair means that she won't fall to the ground abruptly, even while having a seizure. Also, I witnessed my grandson having a tonic-clonic seizure twice, and both times, it took him at least an hour to come fully out of it. With this student, it's fifteen minutes at most. And even then, it seems like she's invariably aware of what's happening around her almost immediately after she stops seizing. She just can't or won't talk. What seems especially weird to me is that she's always trembling all over her body right after a seizure. Aren't her muscles supposed to be exhausted and therefore limp?   

Does anyone else have experience with any of these things? If she is indeed faking the seizures, I'd like to know. If attention is what she's after, it seems to me we souldn't be giving it to her anymore. Maybe then the fake (?) seizures might stop.      

 

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GrodoFirst of all I do know

GrodoFirst of all I do know about having seizures at work and yes a person can have one that lasts a few minutes and by the time the EMT's get there the person is up and talking. You see I have done that many times at work. By the time the ambulance crew got there I was in the office waiting on them to arrive. I amswered their questions. As for a person having a seizure I can have one today and you would know nothing about it. Medications have been created to shorten the time in the seizures and the post ictal time as well. As for the person not liking people arround them > I hated it and all they were doing was trying to help me. I knew I had the seizure. I knew I would be ok. I knew if it took a certain length of time to get back to normal I needed to go home rather then spend time on the clock without doing real work.  As for faking things I know it happens. I have seen people get out of a wheel cahir and load it in the back of a car anr then walk to the drivers side and drive it off. Any illness can be faked and is being faked by someone. However if asked about a medication  they are using and the person answers the name of the medication then they mey not be faking. I still have seizures but I could have one at work today and the people arround me would know nothing about it because they now last a few seconds and the time to get back to normal is also in seconds I also know that EMT's and ER rooms don't know how to treat a person very well. The tests that they ran on me were basic tests run on anybody going to the ER. I was taken to one when I had a cluster of seizures. They ran a EKG. CT scan abd blood tests. Now I also have A-fib. Now with a-fib a EKG would show that but with mine they asked no questions. That trip costs me hundreds of dollars whel all I wanted was to get in the buss and ride the half mile home and lay down. I hope this helps Joe

My client just faked a

My client just faked a seizure 30 minutes ago....So maybe you're the one that should educate yourself

I knew nothing about faking

I knew nothing about faking seizures, until last night I had many seizures in over a 2 hour period. My wife administered some oral drug we were given, which by law we should not have even been given. My wife phoned 111 in the end a paramedic was sent out to the premises. When I came round I was tired, but this is normal, the paramedic said he preferred to take me in to A&E. I only refused because am just tested for around 8 hours, and then given the okay to go home.I don't see how anyone can fake an epileptic seizure, first my blood sugar was a little high, my oxygen level was going up and down and this was while the paramedic was here. How can you possibly fake all this?I'm not just an epileptic, I also suffer from Functional Episodes, Generalised Dystonia, Cervical Dystonia and IBS - and nearly wheelchair bound to the point where I cannot even use a manual wheelchair.I do not understand why someone would fake a seizure, but the paramedic said they get quite a few, but not to the extent where a person can physically change rates of bloods, oxygen levels, etc. Last night I felt very ill before going in to a seizure, most of it is dystonic problems with tort muscles.

Look into nonepileptic

Look into nonepileptic seizures, especially psychogenic episodes. This may be  what is happening.

My son Doctor to me and his

My son Doctor to me and his daddy that he wa fake his seizure. Then two months later he died of having a seizure so you tell me was he fakeing it

Yes it's possible  for some

Yes it's possible  for some to know when it's coming.

Yes my first experience at

Yes my first experience at the ER I was told I wasn't really having a seizure. Thankfully I was able to get a great neurologist to nail exactly what was going on. Espcellialy in someone who's 36 with no history of seizures. My Dr did reffer me to some websites and groups to talk etc. Faking seizures is very common for attention witch is sad. 

My sister always knows when

My sister always knows when her seizures are going to happen, though not consciously. She always finds someone and usually says that she doesn't feel right. She has also banged her head on the ground during a seizure before. Your student may always be sitting because she subconsciously know that she is about to have a seizure.

We have a lady at work who

We have a lady at work who fakes seizures, She is a scam artist. She got caught using customer reward points and When she got caught she claimed that she has cancer and her husband beats her and My boss fell for it and didn't fire her. My wife used to work with the mentally ill and said she had a client that would do the same thing for attention and My Wife would have to mark it down as faking a seizure. It makes me sick that people do this for attention. It's almost impossible to prove they are faking and Lying about it.

Yes it it possible. 

Yes it it possible.  Sometimes it is just a feeling but sometimes it can be things like smelling sulfur.  (Rotten eggs) 

I am so sorry for your loss.

I am so sorry for your loss. I can not understand why one doctor's  own opinion is sometimes the only thing that matters. But we are supposed to trust them. There is not one single person in this world that knows everything,  so the doctor or doctors should have asked for a second opinion.  Once again, I am so sorry for your loss. And yes you should sue them or make a complaint so that maybe they could learn from their mistakes. God bless you.

An action plan filled out by

An action plan filled out by a doctor. That's all the proof anyone would need. 

and would get her the seizure

and would get her the seizure care she would need as well. 

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