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Hypoglycemia? Anemia? Dehydration? Or Epilepsy? You tell me!

Tue, 06/30/2009 - 06:09

Hi everyone.

What a good find this site has been. I need to know if any doctor or experienced person can tell me if seizures can be caused by any of the aforementioned conditions because i have taken an EEG, ECG and even Brain Scan test and nothing has been found to explain the seizure i had six days ago. But perhaps a little background information on my story is needed so please bear with me if its a bit too long. 

Am 24 and about one month ago i had dental surgery under general anasthesia to extract 5 heavily impacted teeth from my mouth. As you can expect i lost alot of blood and my mouth was really messed up. Anyway, for 7 days after the surgery i virtually could not eat anything and so my diet was not good. Then on the eigth day, while i was home alone in the kitchen, i think, (am not sure), i fainted. it could have been a seizure or mere fainting, am not sure. But what i know is i was just standing there and then i just lost conciousness and fainted and fell on my back and also hit my head. 

Now the funny part is when i woke up from this faint (seizure?) i was in my bed and not in the kitchen! How i got there without remembering, am not sure! And i had hurt my back really bad from the fall and was in alot of pain. And i was also out of breath and fighting to breathe. I noticed i had also wet my pants. The only thing i could do was pick up my phone and call my sister who came over and they carried me to the ER. They did a scan on my back and told me that i had a small fracture on my back from the fall but that it would heal in a few weeks. As you all know, once you injure your spinal cord, the pain spreads to every part of the body because all nerves are connected to the spinal cord. Anyway the doc told me i must have fainted because of dehydration and lack of glucose because for 7 days i was not eating because of my teeth. Anyway, i was discharged with some pain killers and went to recuperate my back from home. 

It took an extra 3 weeks for both my back and teeth to get much better and i could finally eat some solid foods but i had been on a very poor diet. I had also noticed that i had developed heart palipitations possibly because i had become anemic or lost alot of glucose. I could just feel my heart racing for brief periods of time. So any way last week on wednesday at night, about 20 days after my fall and 27 days after my teeth surgey, i was in the living room talking to my sister and having a laugh when i decided to turn around and go fetch something from the kicthen. In turning around, i turned my neck and head to the right at a tight angle. On turning my head like this, i just felt it get stuck there, like it was going more and more to the right and i couldnt turn it back, however much i tried! Its then that i lost conciousness and just stood there with my head tilted to the right. My sister thought i was pulling a prank until she came around and had a look and saw that my head was actually stuck and my eyes were rolled up and i was having a fit. Its then that i lost my balance and felt to the floor and started shaking before just laying still with my eyes rolled up. Kind of like a grand mal. 

Now the funny thing is that seizures are supposed to last for like a few minutes right? Well i stayed like this for a very long time, around 20 mins. I woke up at the ER confused and could see my sister sitted there talking to the doctor in tears. Then another funny thing is that after about 15 mins, another 'seizure' started and i started convulsing and fighting with the nurses though i dont remember anything. This lasted about another 10 mins and i was passed out for about 20 mins before waking up on drip. I also realised i had bitten my toungue. The doctor then ordered 3 tests. An EEG, ECG and Brain scan. They all came back normal and the brain scan guys said they saw nothing wrong and it was probably dehydration or possibly a 'brain atrophy', something they also couldnt explain well when asked. 

Anyway, they did other tests and told me i was anemic and i had been on a poor diet too. So in addittion to folic acid, the neuro surgeon prescribed for me nootropil and phenytoin and sent me home saying i will be fine and i should watch my diet. I took phenytoin for 2 days but its side effects were so bad that i could not even concetrate at all and was always sleeping. I told the doc this and he said that thats how it was and i had to 'rest'. Well guess what, i wasnt having none of that! so i stopped taking the phenytoin and nootropil altogether and just continued with the folic acid for the anemia. I know many of you will condemn me for that but i do not believe that what happened was epilepsy and therefore was not going to continue on anti-epileptic drugs more over with very very bad side effects. 

Its now been 5 days and no seizures or anything like that and am on a proper diet and doing alot of research on seizures and epilepsy and how one can have a seizure with the EEG, ECG and brain scan all coming out normal??? A numer of websites have suggested that seizures can be a symptom of any of the follwing issues: Hypoglycemia, Anemia, Dehydration, Palpitation. All of which i was suffering from. Also another website suggested that turning the neck at an acute angle could lead to blocking a nerver that takes blood to the brain and can lead to fainting with seizure like symptoms???

Anyway, there are just too many opinions out there and it can all get a bit confusing so was just wondering what you guys make of my story? I know its been kind of like a movie or something but i had to just put it out there. Anyone with any suggestions or opinions is free to comment. 

Thanx alot for listening.

Comments

Re: Hypoglycemia? Anemia? Dehydration? Or Epilepsy? You tell me!

Submitted by travelindaisy on Tue, 2009-06-30 - 22:53
Hi!  So sorry to hear of your awful experiences!  Prior to your dental work, did you have any symptoms at all?  I can tell you that if you are not eating/drinking well, this can throw your electrolytes out of whack which can throw the heart rhythm out of order if your heart might be "prone" to it.  When the electical system of your heart is not working properly, it can cause dizziness, syncope and seizures.  Did they do a 4 lead or 12 lead EKG?  I would certainly have them do the 12 lead as it's more accurate just to be safe.  If they find any kind of abnormailty, they can do an EP Study.  The nerve which you are referring to is the Vagas nerve.  I don't know too much about that but I have heard about it.  I hope that helps!  Keep me posted and I wish you all the best.  Good luck!
Jan

Re: Hypoglycemia? Anemia? Dehydration? Or Epilepsy? You tell me!

Submitted by xalixo on Wed, 2009-07-01 - 05:13
Hi. Thanx for the comments. Just to let you know that prior to the dental work i had never ever had any problem with fainting or seizures or anything like that. Its only after that surgery that everything began! Which makes me imagine that it was all connected to the surgery. Whether it was a 4 lead or 12 lead EKG i could not tell you for sure but am now gonna try and find out and will get back to you. Though just wanted to know what the difference was? And what is an EP study? And do you also think this could also be a heart problem? Would appreciate any answers you have and thanx for your time.

Re: Hypoglycemia? Anemia? Dehydration? Or Epilepsy? You tell me!

Submitted by travelindaisy on Wed, 2009-07-01 - 14:12

Hi!  It does seem a bit odd that everything started after your surgery.  I would definitely go back to your dr. and ask for his suggestions as well.  It really could be so many things.  Lack of eating/drinking does send the body out sync, including sugars, etc.  Have him start ruling things out.  That seems to be the only way to help narrow things down, but I wouldn't stop the medication without his help/knowledge.  As many say, seizures can be caused by many different conditions.  They might not always show at the time of the test--they hide. I just found it odd that it all started after the surgery/lack of eating.   Seems there might be a connection? Also, I believe that there are types of local anestheics used for numbing that can cause a problem on some people.  Could be something really simple.  A 12 lead EKG is more accurate and detailed.  If they were to find any abnormalites, they will try and find the cause.  If you were to have an arrythmia, an EP study would reveal the location/cause of the problem in the heart.  Again, it's to help and narrow things down to try and find the problem.  After being told that I had E and ended up having a heart condition, you can imagine the shock--literally.  It almost cost me my life.  I just found that with the help of your dr along with specialists, things get resolved.  Ask lots of questions and be your own advocate.  Listen to your gut---you know yourself better than anyone else.  Voice your concerns and let them know how you feel; don't leave out the small stuff because that is sometimes the biggest clue.  I certainly don't want to say that all seziures are heart related, but after my recent experiences, many ruled my heart out before even testing.  It doesn't hurt to ask, right?  Keep me posted!

Hi!  It does seem a bit odd that everything started after your surgery.  I would definitely go back to your dr. and ask for his suggestions as well.  It really could be so many things.  Lack of eating/drinking does send the body out sync, including sugars, etc.  Have him start ruling things out.  That seems to be the only way to help narrow things down, but I wouldn't stop the medication without his help/knowledge.  As many say, seizures can be caused by many different conditions.  They might not always show at the time of the test--they hide. I just found it odd that it all started after the surgery/lack of eating.   Seems there might be a connection? Also, I believe that there are types of local anestheics used for numbing that can cause a problem on some people.  Could be something really simple.  A 12 lead EKG is more accurate and detailed.  If they were to find any abnormalites, they will try and find the cause.  If you were to have an arrythmia, an EP study would reveal the location/cause of the problem in the heart.  Again, it's to help and narrow things down to try and find the problem.  After being told that I had E and ended up having a heart condition, you can imagine the shock--literally.  It almost cost me my life.  I just found that with the help of your dr along with specialists, things get resolved.  Ask lots of questions and be your own advocate.  Listen to your gut---you know yourself better than anyone else.  Voice your concerns and let them know how you feel; don't leave out the small stuff because that is sometimes the biggest clue.  I certainly don't want to say that all seziures are heart related, but after my recent experiences, many ruled my heart out before even testing.  It doesn't hurt to ask, right?  Keep me posted!

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