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Epilepsy and Demonic Possession...or something of the sort

Tue, 06/24/2008 - 16:43

Has anyone had problems with religious family members whipping out Mark 9 (the chapter where Jesus heals a boy who apparently is having seizures of some sort), then declaring that you must have demons in you, or you have spiritual unrest, or are somehow "not right" with God?

My father did that to me recently. When he started talking about it, I was afraid he was going to try an exorcism on me right then and there. But he didn't - he just prayed. Ever since then he's been pushing me to talk to my minister about my alleged spiritual unrest. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to do that - soon we'll have a new minister and I can just see me going in on his first day on the job and saying, "O hi, sometimes I wake up at night with a yell and then I shake. Can you help me? I must not be right with God."  The poor minister would probably put a request in for a transfer that same day.

I mean, I do have Demons. I really do. And I have Crime and Punishment and The Idiot and Brothers Karamazov and most of Dostoevsky's works. (Sorry - had to get a book nerd joke in there.)

Seriously, I thank this very same Deity (with whom I am supposedly not right) that I'm an adult and live a few states away from my father. But this still bothers me because I have to deal with my father's pestering me to talk to the minister. Truly, I think it goes beyond just a religious matter and it's more a question of my father's sanity.

So has anyone else dealt with this demons issue?

Comments

Re: Epilepsy and Demonic Possession...or something of the sort

Submitted by Crystal11 on Sun, 2008-07-06 - 06:06

Hello all. I am so sorry to hear that some of you are dealing with this type of thing, i too have had someone tell me that my Epilepsy was caused by somthing i did in a past life and the it means that my "sins" are cuasing my seizures. I just about laughed when he was telling me this. [my friends uncle was telling me all this]. Anyway i thought it was interesting but a load of crap at the same time. Its really hurtful to hear that god supposedly is paying you back for your sins and others sins by giving you E. I think its bull and why would an ever loving and wonderful god want to do that to someone who doesnt deserve it? what did we do? It just doesnt sound right. God is supposed to love everyone right? Anyway I felt so odd hearing this from him and i also felt angry at the same time about it. Jeez if this is true, what did I do to deserve being born 3 months early, only wieghing 1 pound and 10 oz, i died 3 times and due to lack of oxygen i am blind, hearing impaired and have some brain damge and have seizures since 6 years old. I do not belive that this is a riligious payback for somthing in a past life, its just being born and surviving somthings that should have killed me, but now I am 25 years old and have two musical CDs published, am finishing college, have a wonderful guide dog Mica. I am thankful to god that i am alive and can enjoy life and art and music and creativity and friends too. My mother said a prayer over me and my twin who has the same problems as me and she prayed for us all the time and thank god we have the mother that we have, she helped us survive 3 months in nicu to come home and live as normal of a life as we can. There are so many things that I am thankful to god and other energy forces out there but I really do not belive that god is doing this stuff to punish us, we have blindness, hearing impairment and seizures due to being born too early and lack of oxygen. Not sinning and all that. Anyway sorry for the length of this, but i know how you feel and I think its sad that society already has a bad image of seizures and all other disabilities but someone adding to it by saying that your possessed and a sinner and all that just becuase of a structural problem in the brain and the disease of E is wrong andthis is more like  somthing that people assumed about E in midevil times,  before there was advanced medical research to prove that its biological. These things are out of our control but NOT becuz of religus unrest. Maybe the people saying all this hurtful stuff are the ones that are at unrest! They need to talk to a pastor not the person with E.  Good luck and take care. [crystal11's sister, Danielle.]

Hello all. I am so sorry to hear that some of you are dealing with this type of thing, i too have had someone tell me that my Epilepsy was caused by somthing i did in a past life and the it means that my "sins" are cuasing my seizures. I just about laughed when he was telling me this. [my friends uncle was telling me all this]. Anyway i thought it was interesting but a load of crap at the same time. Its really hurtful to hear that god supposedly is paying you back for your sins and others sins by giving you E. I think its bull and why would an ever loving and wonderful god want to do that to someone who doesnt deserve it? what did we do? It just doesnt sound right. God is supposed to love everyone right? Anyway I felt so odd hearing this from him and i also felt angry at the same time about it. Jeez if this is true, what did I do to deserve being born 3 months early, only wieghing 1 pound and 10 oz, i died 3 times and due to lack of oxygen i am blind, hearing impaired and have some brain damge and have seizures since 6 years old. I do not belive that this is a riligious payback for somthing in a past life, its just being born and surviving somthings that should have killed me, but now I am 25 years old and have two musical CDs published, am finishing college, have a wonderful guide dog Mica. I am thankful to god that i am alive and can enjoy life and art and music and creativity and friends too. My mother said a prayer over me and my twin who has the same problems as me and she prayed for us all the time and thank god we have the mother that we have, she helped us survive 3 months in nicu to come home and live as normal of a life as we can. There are so many things that I am thankful to god and other energy forces out there but I really do not belive that god is doing this stuff to punish us, we have blindness, hearing impairment and seizures due to being born too early and lack of oxygen. Not sinning and all that. Anyway sorry for the length of this, but i know how you feel and I think its sad that society already has a bad image of seizures and all other disabilities but someone adding to it by saying that your possessed and a sinner and all that just becuase of a structural problem in the brain and the disease of E is wrong andthis is more like  somthing that people assumed about E in midevil times,  before there was advanced medical research to prove that its biological. These things are out of our control but NOT becuz of religus unrest. Maybe the people saying all this hurtful stuff are the ones that are at unrest! They need to talk to a pastor not the person with E.  Good luck and take care. [crystal11's sister, Danielle.]

Re: Epilepsy and Demonic Possession...or something of the sort

Submitted by ROCKNROLL on Sun, 2008-07-06 - 21:49

OH CHRYSTAL, I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID AND I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WOULD AGREE WITH ME........DUH! GOD IS LOVE. A SIMPLE STATEMENT THAT MEANS SO VERY MUCH! YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AND SURVIVING WONDERFULLY! TOO BAD YOU FORGOT YOUR DOGS NAME! LOL! MICA IS YOUR SIS'S DOG!!!! LOL!

VERY WELL STATED CHRYSTAL, I AM GLAD YOU PUT YOUR TWO CENTS IN THIS DISCUSSION. THIS SHOULD HELP STEPH'S CAUSE!

I WISH YOU PEACE, LOVE, BLESSINGS, JOY.........JAN

I USE ALL CAPS FOR THE VISUALLY IMPAIRED.

OH CHRYSTAL, I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID AND I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WOULD AGREE WITH ME........DUH! GOD IS LOVE. A SIMPLE STATEMENT THAT MEANS SO VERY MUCH! YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AND SURVIVING WONDERFULLY! TOO BAD YOU FORGOT YOUR DOGS NAME! LOL! MICA IS YOUR SIS'S DOG!!!! LOL!

VERY WELL STATED CHRYSTAL, I AM GLAD YOU PUT YOUR TWO CENTS IN THIS DISCUSSION. THIS SHOULD HELP STEPH'S CAUSE!

I WISH YOU PEACE, LOVE, BLESSINGS, JOY.........JAN

I USE ALL CAPS FOR THE VISUALLY IMPAIRED.

Re: Epilepsy and Demonic Possession...or something of the sort

Submitted by angelacarwile on Fri, 2008-07-11 - 11:16

I am so sorry. Although no one ever said those things to me I felt as if I were being punished and that comes from the Old Testament views that most of us were raised on. Please read (Hebrews 4:16).  In a book that I read, 'Seized for His Glory', written by Brenda Robinson, and through prayer I found my answer. Here's an exert from her book and a quote from scripture:

" I don't want people to doubt their salvation or to see God as cruel and Punishing. God doesn't punish His children; He corrects them, and there is a big difference between the two. At Calvary, Jesus took upon Himself our punishment so that we might "come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need". "

 The author of the book I just mentioned suffered from E and almost died, but through her faith and a lot of prayer she was healed by the grace of God and has been seizure free for 17 years. I hope this helps you as it has helped me. He is not a punishing God and through Epilepsy He has brought me closer to Him and answered my prayers. May God continue to Bless you.

Angela 

 

I am so sorry. Although no one ever said those things to me I felt as if I were being punished and that comes from the Old Testament views that most of us were raised on. Please read (Hebrews 4:16).  In a book that I read, 'Seized for His Glory', written by Brenda Robinson, and through prayer I found my answer. Here's an exert from her book and a quote from scripture:

" I don't want people to doubt their salvation or to see God as cruel and Punishing. God doesn't punish His children; He corrects them, and there is a big difference between the two. At Calvary, Jesus took upon Himself our punishment so that we might "come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need". "

 The author of the book I just mentioned suffered from E and almost died, but through her faith and a lot of prayer she was healed by the grace of God and has been seizure free for 17 years. I hope this helps you as it has helped me. He is not a punishing God and through Epilepsy He has brought me closer to Him and answered my prayers. May God continue to Bless you.

Angela 

 

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