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Epilepsy or anxiety - how do I know and what do I do?

Hi there.

I am new to this forum, and unsure whether I actually have epilepsy or not. I am hoping someone will be able to read my story, and tell me if they experience their attacks in a similar way or not.

 

I started having 'attacks' when I was about 17-18. It started as fairly mild, anxiety-like attacks, which feel like a combination of complete dread and almost a deja-vu like feeling. Not really like I have been there before, but more accurately it feels like I am remembering an event that I have previosuly repressed, and this is accompanied by a sense of horror and fear. The memory floods over me over the course of 30 seconds or less, and when it goes away, I cannot remember what it was, but I am left with a sense of deflation and depression. While this all takes plase, there are no external signs of anything happening, and I am able to carry on conversations and act normally. Afterwards, I feel like going to bed and crying - it is the worst feeling of dread I have ever experienced and is completely draining. Sometimes it also leaves me with a severe headache.

I always saw these as anxiety attacks, and never went to a doctor with them. These events are horrible, but they come in clusters over a day or max two days. Once I have had one event, there will almost always be more that day, and once or twice this has spread to the next day as well. However, once that is past, they may stay away for a year or even two. Most recently, I have not had any attacks for two and a half years.

What complicates this for me, and has led some doctors to diagnose me with epilepsu, is that I have had a total of three events that may or may not be classified as full epileptic attacks. The first when I was 18, the next at 25 and the last at 28. These 'event' feel to me merely as if I pass out, and doctors have in fact checked if I may have low blood sugar issues, and one thought it may be a heart condition. All very worrying. Because my mum witnessed the first black out event, and told doctors that I had a one cramping seizure while I was passed out, they were led to look at epilepsy. Scans and tests never found anything, and at the second event I was at work, and colleagues said I merely passed out and slumped over my computer - no seizures or cramping. The third event was in the street, in the middle of a zebra crossing. Walking home with my shopping, I suddenly passed out, and woke up with my front tooth broken.

In these cases, I do not think I am out for very long - 30 seconds to a minute at the most. I feel tired and confused after, and obviously upset, but nothing else. These black outs have however always been preceded by one of the anxiety like attacks described above - leading me to think of epileptic auras.

I have seen many different doctors about this, because I have moved around a lot over the years. One epilepsy specialist was sure it was epilepsy, and offered me medication - but the 'attacks' being so few and far between, I felt unwilling to brave the side effects of medication. I find it hard to explain to doctors what the problem is, because the anxiety/ dread, memory feeling is really hard to describe. Therefore, I am always unsure of any diagnosis, because I feel they do not really understand what I am going through.

As mentioned I have not had either a minor or major attacks in over 2 years now - but I am conscious that they could come back any day. Looking back, especially the major attacks do seem to be quite stress related - the first I was 18 with a broken heart, the second had started a new job, the third I had just finished my master's thesis. Interestingly, I have travelled a lot all over the world, and while abroad have never had even an inkling of any attack or event or anxiety.

Any opinions or thoughts would be most welcome, as I really do not know how do handle this - if it is epilepsy, should I go on medication? Or could it be that I actually have a deeper form of anxiety that I need to deal with? At the moment, I am merely ignoring it, as I have always tended to do when I had my periods without any events - but that is not really a solution.

 

Please help

 

 

 

By monkyh... at Wed, 11/04/2009 - 5:00am | 53 views | 7 comments

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This is why sharing is so good.  You can see you are not alone.  My son who has special needs due to a brain mass which was removed when he was 2 is now 12 and he reports that things seem like a dream and often uses the words that things feel fake and even he feels fake.  He knows things are real and doesn't have any hallucinations but he gets upset especially when it happens many times a day.  He also has been treated for anxiety and at times says he is just worried and can't tell why, it will keep him from sleeping even.  I am fine with his being treated for anxiety if that is really all it is...but I think it is important to be very careful and rule out (as much as possible, since these things sometimes can't be caught during testing) if he is having seizures again.  Especially with a history of brain injury...I have to wonder how many separate diagnoses really might be going on (psychological issues, autism, brain injury??? all the symptoms are in commmon with his kind of brain injury, rt. frontal/temporal lobe with all over mass injury because the tumor was so large and bled at times prior to removal).  It seems so many have used nearly the same words to describe the odd feelings and anxiety that happen to them even if they have limited communication skills as my son does.  Trust your gut.  Are you anxious about life in general, do you have overall issues?  It is hard to sort through which comes first, symptoms or the anxiety...  In our case I accept all feedback and make sure that while anxiety needs to be treated because it interferes with functioning fully, I will do my best to make sure my son is not mistreated for a psychological issue alone if medical treatment is needed.

deew

See thats what I am feeling also amost like a fake feeling or like I said "dreaming" like feeling, I know thats its not "seizures" Im having because I can drive and function........but I looked up Panic and Anxiety disorder and I dont have any of those symptoms....so I guess I better go see a neuologist and see whats really going on.....I know that "pychogenic non-epileptic seizures can be brought on by childhood traumas and God knows I had my share of that..... Thanks for the info and hope all goes well with you....

 

Emilie's Grandma

Emilie...

you should def look into psychogenic seizures just like andrew said.
was also thinking that when you were descibing your symptoms. because
psychogenic seizures are a way of dealing withj your stress and anixety.

makes
a lot of sence jjst becvause it doesn't always happene to you. you had your 'epsiodes' when you just delat with something stressful. you remember your attacks, people that witnessed your attackes said that they were like you passed out sounds like a psychogenic seizure. it's a scary thing i know. i have psychogenic seizures, that's what happens to me. at first they thought i had low blood sugar problems, went for tests, nothing showed, i was a healthy young girl. went for an EEG, found out i have Epilepsy, i have absence seizures(petit mals) now, taking zonegran(400) and carbatol(300). a couple years later, my grandmals were getting worse, but i wasn't having any injuries, i was remembering most of my seizures. i was having seizures when i was most stressed out, i couldn't deal with school. it was so bad. i felt so loneyjust because i new that remembering your grandmal sezures wasn't 'normal'. so i got diagnosed with psychgenic seizures, now which is called non epileptic seizures.it's hard to deal with all of that. one because you ahve a lot of anixety, and depression issues. you will get better dealing with everything later when you accept it

 

i just think you need to get an VEEG done possiably, go talk to  your doc, and he'll send to a  neuro. or maybe you go talk to one.

if you want to chat more, email me 

gabigirl440@msn.com

love to here back.

gabi.goo

not sure what your having but I would go back to the doctor or find a new one....I have what i think is either anxiety or panic disorder..... but when I talk to the doctor I dont have the typical symptoms of either.... when I have an attack, It almost feels like Im dreaming and I get really scared, everything feels really weird and they last about a minute or so but my auntie was with me one time when I had one and she said my eyes jerk.....could it be epileptic episodes of some kind????

Emilie...

Wow!  Where do I start.  Ok, first of all, if you have not had an EEG, I would not merely take a verbal diagnosis as proof.  

 Secondly, your feeling of panic, anxiety, and deja vu MIGHT be a mild seizure (typically called an aura) but that cannot be diagnosed oneline or verbally without EEG results showing abnormality.  

 Thirdly, alot of what you're talking doesn't ring to me as epilepsy.  There is a psychological condition  called psychogenic seizures, often misdiagnosed as epilepsy.  I recommend you read a bit about it and then contact a doctor.  http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news/Clues-To-Identify-...

If it's anxiety, there are medications that are not addictive that you could at least try and see if they help, but no matter what your next step might be to read about anxiety and psychogenic seizures and talk to your doctor about what you have read.

Cheers,
Andrew

apmast

Hi.

Thanks to everyone for the replies. It helps just to know that there are people out there dealing with similar issues.

I have had an EEG, have also had CAT scans and MRI once, as well as an ECG or whatever they are called, when one doc thought the issue was my heart - none of these showed any abnormal activities what so ever.

I will definetely look into the psychogenic seizures issue, because neither anxiety or epilepsy have ever sat right with me as a diagnosis. I will let you know what I think when I know more.

Thanks again for all your help

monkyh...

The beginning of your story you mentioned a repressed memory that you were remembering?  This may have been the cause of your problems.  But I would still get diagnostic testing, whatever it is, you seem to have it under control though.  Try a sleep EEG testing for sleep apnea.

Civili...