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Smoking marijuana and drinking

I was just reading on this website all of the forums about drinking and smoking cigarettes and how bad they are for you. It didnt say anything about weed and I smoke weed maybe once a week or once every two weeks and is it bad for having seizures? Also if you drink maybe two beers to three beers once a weekend is that bad?

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ktnz I'm a medical marijuana user for my sezuires I have been on the pill rodeo as well with many doctors and so far nothing has work as well as weed. You can't sit on the couch and do bong hits all day but I find if I vape a few times a day works well for me. Here in our great lake state Michigan we just passed medical marijuana nov 4 so I'm one happy camper.

Now alcohol on the other hand boy the storys I could tell LOL   I sure don't miss those hangovers

You know if your having sezuires anyway and the pills don't do the job don't close your mind to weed. It doesn't have to be smoke. You can baked with it. I made some awesome brownies for travel. Tea isn't so bad with honey and lemon.

Now I got my life back thanks to weed and I'm going to keep it.   Enjoy life......x

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I rarely smoke weed, but I've recently noticed that about one to two weeks after doing so, or even taking it in second hand, that I did have a seizure. Now I haven't yet to have one after drinking. But that may just be luck.. I personaly think that the weed does cause a major issue and the drinking does not. But it all depends on how your body reacts the the chemicals and any meds you are on.

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I will break down my comment by the two drugs being mentioned:

Weed: Before I was put on Keppra, weed would have a huge effect on me.  Now, I cant get any high even when I smoke huge amounts.  I am going to bake the weed into cupcakes to see if it is the medicine and/or the brain damage from the seizures or that I cant inhale properly anymore.

Alcohol: I can drink as little or as much as I want without fear of seizures.  However, when I am withdrawing or sobering up, I have violent and unpredictable seizures. A lot of sources have made it clear that people with seizures are very sensitive to withdrawls from anything.

I hope this helps.

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 I'll be blunt. Are you some kind of dense?. How can doing that crapp help? How can they do any thing but hurt?

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hey   i may or may not have epilepsy. I had an mri done last week and im seeing a neurologist next week.  i have read and there's even a good youtube of people vouging for the use of medical marijuana to control seizures. BANFFGIRL down below seems knowledgeable if you're looking for some solid answers. however- i have found that marijuana can induce seizures for me, but maybe only because I was holding my hits until i was literally about to pass out. In hindsight I think the lowered oxygen levels in my brain caused my first seizure to happen, and I began to hallucinate strange indescribable music. It has happened powerfully about 4 times in the past year. Although I can hear it faintly when I take adderall or too much caffeine or get very drunk. i smoke almost a pack of cigarettes a day too. Anyway the experience is pleasant for me, but i'm getting it checked out just in case.

jderry - Many schizophrenics smoke cigarettes self-therapeutically. Supposedly it regulates neuronal firing patterns in the frontal lobe, keeping them more in touch with reality. This is one example of a drug modifying a person's chemistry/thoughts/behavior in a way that is beneficial to their life. There are thousands of other examples of 'crapp that can help' people. 

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I don't know the details of your case, but there is only one thing to say here, I don't know if marijuana will help your seizures or make them worse - I know it helps me but I am a very controlled and limited user. As others know what it does to them...I can only say that if you are under 18, then you are still physically and mentally growing and marijuana will stunt your growth, as will tobacco, and alcohol. We epileptics already have enough to deal with, the least we owe our body, is the chance to grow fully and
healthily.

When I finally tried pot at age 18ish, it worked. I had 2 years seizure free. But I got over confident and messefd myself really badly trying to catch up with my 'normal' friends. I will always remember my college years as the time when I deliberately and slowly tried to kill myself, without actually being openly aggressive towards my body. Yes alcohol did contribute as did the standard 60s menu courtesy the thousands of flower children sunning themselves on Indian beaches even post y2k.

After that I touched no other external crap other than oxetol. No booze. Not pot. No rec anything. Nada. For 6 months at least. ANyways, oxcarbezepine and alcohol get on a bit too well together ie I get drunk now in 3 sips so I run from booze and choose. Oxetol controls the seizures, but left me feeling anxious an hour before and after the pills. This is worse during my menstrual cycle from start to end, nearly like panic attacks but I know exactly what is causing them, I'm just unable to stop the physical symptoms. So every day for a couple of hours I used to sit down and try to deal
with the dizziness, nausea, unsteadiness,rushing blood sound in ears, increased palpitation - nearly like an adrenalin rush but minus the exhilaration and clarity. ANd it sucked. So I began experimenting with pot again because I remembered how it cut off all the side effects before. 

Now I take my meds at fixed time, so I know when to expect the discomfort. An hour before my meds, I smoke a bong that by passes the discomfort. I work in between the 10 hours that are bearable, mostly pot free except on extra stressful days when I get deja vu or an aura, and during my menstrual cycle as the my threshold is lower then and I'm a mess. Pot takes away the blues, mood swings,cramps and hot/cold flashes at that time. But that's what it does for me. I rarely, if ever, puff merrily away because as a lot of people have very very wisely mentioned...you never know when you cross the line from medicinal to recreational use. ANd you never know when you are addicted. And I look forward to those good days when I don't need it at all, it's lovely to be enjoy the sunshine just for it's warmth instead of fearing it for the larger fact that it created us and is likely to end us. I nearly killed myself on the way to figuring all this out. So I don't recommend this to anyone.

Also, by now, I believed that marijuana, like the Hindu tradition says, is truly the plant of the Gods, with properties that only the sage and wise should experience because mere mortals are
lead astray by it. The 'Learned Ones' instead use it to learn, grow and communicate with the world's spiritual essence. It is SHiva's plant, one that helped him meditate and center the universe, and though I am an agnostic, I agree with the old Hindu books. It is not
for everyone. It can lead you astray. It is only for those who can differentiate between recreational use and qualitative use, or it becomes a personal addiction and therefore a social problem. And from the sound of this forum, medical marijuana dispensaries
ought to be more careful with their genuine patients, they need to be the "Learned Ones" to take the time to figure out a patient's exact requirement and daily dosage before indiscriminately handing the yummy stuff out for one and all, then they become a worthy service. Right now, they sound as bad as any other dealer making a quick buck off unhappy people. AN addiction can make life seem more bearable even if it is not. They should decide what they are and stick to it.

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we can all lie to ourselves but deep down inside all the smokers (and prob drinkers) who have seizures know when our body detoxes we get or can get seizures. ciggs are no good and caffeine is not the best. coke, meth, morphine, (almost killed me) 15 years of smoking and seizures to believe it. how can poison be good for you?

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i have temporal lobe epilepsy after being prescribed the ssri antidepressant cipramil. my psychiatrist prescribed it for depression & went on holidays for 6 months & left me to rot. i started getting a sickening de ja vu, then hallucinating - i saw god the devil angels (but i'm atheist) they spoke to me & told me what would happen (the future). i know this sounds really loopy! . i had nocturnal seizures. i ground my teeth, i couldn't recognise faces! i was a zombie. i stopped drinking completely (i never drunk much anyway). it wasn't my choice, something in my head just can't stand the thought of being drunk or hungover. the worst thing is when i get my "aura" (de ja vu) i become incredibly aggressive & get into too much trouble. when it happened i just turned around shut my mouth, went home & locked myself indoors until the next day. 

when my phyciatrist returned he FREAKED OUT at what was wrong with me weaned me off the cipramil & i NEVER went back to him again.

But the seizures didn't stop, they got worse. i went to 4 different phyciatrist 2 neurologist & a psychologist until about 4 years later i got a good phyciatrist who diagnosed my epilepsy (though looking back now i've learnt about it i seem to have "classic" symptoms of TLE), & i now take sodium valporate. & IT'S WORKING!!

but i should be dead !!!

a couple of months after i went off the cipramil a friend offered me pot, i declined. next time at his place i had an "aura" & went to leave. he offered me pot again, the aura leaves me confused & unable to communicate properly. i tried it. i immediately felt better! my mood was relaxed. i had no seizures or auras for a couple of days. i was able to communicate better. i would usually get a few auras a day if i had one in the morning. but if i smoked pot after the first one i wouldn't get another that day.

Pot has %100 helped ME & SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER NOT DENOUNCED BECAUSE PRIEST & RELIGION ASSOCIATE IT WITH THE DEVIL!! (that's my rant) why has a drug used for centuries to treat epilepsy not been evaluated? because drug companies can't charge? science should never be dictated to by the religious, or you will just chase "myths".

my inability to deal with people after an "aura" or seizure was very aggressive & very nasty, like i was a completely different guy to someone who spent 20yrs doing hotel reception. i should have been killed!! i probably came close to being bashed to death several times for being rude & aggressive. the pot also stopped this happening. if i had an aura i could "fix" its' mood swing with pot.

this is true - where else can i give my experiance to help others? it's no "soapbox" (what a low thing to say about something YOU have no DIRECT experiance with when someone tries to share there's') if your de ja vu is unbearable & causes mood swings, talk to your doctor about whether he thinks it may help. NEVER SELF MEDICATE, & stick to the advice he gives you.

this worked for me & may NOT work for you!! IT MAY MAKE THINGS WORSE. but we will never know unless we share our experiences, debate it & investigate it. I think one day something will be found, but i truly believe it will take an atheist to find it!

i mean why is thalidomide still prescribed to women for disease (cancer i think) when we know of the birth defects it creates (& certain anti-epileptics too). BUT not look at something that if ingested has few documented side-effects?

hope this helps. rejjie

 

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Just to comment on a few things. Marijuana has been and continues to be looked at for positive as well as negative effects on seizures, other neurological disorders and other health problems. There are no conclusive results that I am aware of right now. If someone wants to speak authoritatively on this topic, please cite  studies, not just an individual opinion. There are many reports of it helping some people and worsening seizures in others. And, as many have cited in this thread, the use of illicit drugs can lead to other substance abuse problems and is illegal in many places.

While this is a forum for sharing experiences, let's limit the rants and attacks on what people write about their opinions please.

Epi_help, 
Resource Specialist

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I have use marijuana to control my epilepsy for almost seven years now. Years of meds and doctors trying this pill and that one never worked as well as weed. BTW you don't have to smoke it. I bake and drink tea as well.......sez ya later....x

 

 Here's a study by the germans.

German Studies Support Use of Marijuana Extracts for Epilepsy, Pain

October 6, 2003

Two new German studies provide more evidence for the medical uses of marijuana. According to the BBC News Online, researchers at the Max-Planck Institute – who have been seeking ways to prevent epileptic seizures – report that “natural brain chemicals which resemble cannabis extracts can interrupt a process which can trigger a seizure.” The compounds act to reduce the excitability of brain cells common in epilepsy sufferers. Max-Planck researchers called the cannabis compounds a “promising therapeutic target” in the search to develop effective drugs to fight epilepsy.
 
In the second study, chronic-pain researchers at the Hannover Medical School found that “a synthetic version of one of many marijuana compounds safely reduced chronic nerve pain without impairing thinking and behavior.” Previous research into the compound, CT-3, has already shown it to be an effective anti-inflammatory and pain reducer.
 
There are numerous published research papers that suggest that marijuana has medical value in treating patients with epilepsy and chronic pain. In addition, there has been a great deal of research to suggest that medical marijuana can help treat other serious illnesses such as AIDS, glaucoma, cancer, and multiple sclerosis. Despite this evidence, overwhelming public support, and laws in nine states allowing the use of marijuana for medical purposes, Congress has refused to recognize marijuana's medicinal value and protect patients from federal prosecution.

  You can add Michigan as a state for medical marijuana...yea yea yea

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My brother drinks and smokes, but I think it helps him calm down. My brother has smoked almost all his life, and he actually "needs" it everyday, just so he doesn't flip out on the world. I honestly don't think it has any affects on his epilepsy, regardless of what any research will say.

 

 

Shenoah Brooke

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OK I'VE BEEN SMOKING FOR @9 YRS I STARTED YOUNG AND WHEN I WAS 13 I STARTED HAVING THE SEIZURES BUT MY DAD HAS EPILEPSY SO THATS WHERE I GOT THEM FROM.  I DONT SMOKE AS MUCH AS I USED TO EVER SINCE I HAD MY BABY WHO IS NOW 3 GOING ON 4,  WELL ANYWAYS SMOKING MAKES ME FEEL ALOT BETTER AND TAKES AWAY THE STRESS I SMOKE IT BUT NOW I'M STARTING TO THINK ABOUT BAKING IT WELL IN MY POINT OF VIEW IT HELPS ME. PEOPLES BODIES WORK DIFFERENT SO I THINK IT HELPS ME.  I SMOKE MOSTLY ON THE WEEKENDS AFTER ALONG WEEK OF WORKING IT SURE DOES HELP I DON'T THINK MY DOCTOR WOULD PRESCRIBE IT TO ME THOUGH I WISH HE WOULD !!!!

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yeah i smoke everyday, i do think it helps totally. there are two strains of canabis and one of them can cause seizures. but i dont let that bother me. i have noticed when i dont smoke i get easily wound up but it's not the end of the world.

 i think doctors should prescribe it!!!! 

 

 

alan

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I used to smoke; it helped out a lot. But then every time I smoked I started having seizures. At first I thought it was because it was a certain kind of weed but it's been happening for almost a year now. I smoked a couple weeks ago and didn't have a seizure, then tried again a few days later and had one. You said one kind of cannibus causes seizures... could that be the problem? It's been driving me crazy.

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Hey

I was diagnosed with epilepsy back in 2008 and over this time I have used medical marijuana as an occasional stress reliever and doing so has also increased my knowledge on it.  The two main types of marijuana are sativas and indicas.  While sativas give you a mind high, indicas give you a body high.  Sativas help uplift the user and my experience with this strain has been a little scary because the uplifting feeling made me too jittery as if I were about to have a seizure; very uncomfortable.  Indica, on the otherhand, is great for relaxation and mellowing the user out which makes for an ideal strain for epilepsy.  The only drawback of indicas is that they tend to mellow the user so much that they aren't ideal for use if you need to get stuff done.  Hope this helped!

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Hey

I was diagnosed with epilepsy back in 2008 and over this time I have used medical marijuana as an occasional stress reliever and doing so has also increased my knowledge on it.  The two main types of marijuana are sativas and indicas.  While sativas give you a mind high, indicas give you a body high.  Sativas help uplift the user and my experience with this strain has been a little scary because the uplifting feeling made me too jittery as if I were about to have a seizure; very uncomfortable.  Indica, on the otherhand, is great for relaxation and mellowing the user out which makes for an ideal strain for epilepsy.  The only drawback of indicas is that they tend to mellow the user so much that they aren't ideal for use if you need to get stuff done.  Hope this helped!

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 It not only prevents my seizures from occuring... unlike my medication-which is taken daily to prevent them... it actually stops them while they are occuring. I have a condition where my seizures happen slowly going from 1 second little seizures to a grand mal. if i am able to smoke a little bit of marijuana while this is occuring, it will prevent a grand mal and stop them. although weed does sometimes cause panic attacks with me, i would much rather have a panic attack than a seizure. i think the weed does something with the brain that calms the brain cells down, especially INDICA. sativa might be the strain that might cause seizures in some people. indica relaxes the mind and the body and allows YOU TO RELAX. i notice when i have my little mini seizures, my breath is taken away and my heartrate accelerates.... then i feel a warm feeling throughout my nervous system, going down the back of my neck. people who see me having these want me to relax and lay down but thats impossible because while im laying there, my body starts to panic because i feel my brain being twisted and contorted...

 when i smoke i still feel the same activity in my brain but it is subdued. sometimes my legs and body will jerk but more like a temor not a seizure. even while im high i can still feel the pain lingering through my mind and body, stetching itself across the periscopes of my conciousness... killing me-just like a snake. there are also other herbs... legal ones that help them.

kava root is a sedative and will put you to sleep so seizures wont occur. i think its directly related to the quality of sleep. since certian natural herbs and roots cause sedation, like indica weed, they also help supress seizures a great deal. in california you can get a prescription for having epilepsy. but definitely not here in virginia beach.

 

natural solutions include meditation and prayer. these kinda help if you can retain that conciousness... also being strong and courageous helps, not giving in to fear. pray to god for compassion and love and he will help you if you are sincere. from a spiritual standpoint, watch what u do. what u do unto others comes back times three, be graceful and giving and life will be graceful with you. namaste.

 

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 It not only prevents my seizures from occuring... unlike my medication-which is taken daily to prevent them... it actually stops them while they are occuring. I have a condition where my seizures happen slowly going from 1 second little seizures to a grand mal. if i am able to smoke a little bit of marijuana while this is occuring, it will prevent a grand mal and stop them. although weed does sometimes cause panic attacks with me, i would much rather have a panic attack than a seizure. i think the weed does something with the brain that calms the brain cells down, especially INDICA. sativa might be the strain that might cause seizures in some people. indica relaxes the mind and the body and allows YOU TO RELAX. i notice when i have my little mini seizures, my breath is taken away and my heartrate accelerates.... then i feel a warm feeling throughout my nervous system, going down the back of my neck. people who see me having these want me to relax and lay down but thats impossible because while im laying there, my body starts to panic because i feel my brain being twisted and contorted...

 when i smoke i still feel the same activity in my brain but it is subdued. sometimes my legs and body will jerk but more like a temor not a seizure. even while im high i can still feel the pain lingering through my mind and body, stetching itself across the periscopes of my conciousness... killing me-just like a snake. there are also other herbs... legal ones that help them.

kava root is a sedative and will put you to sleep so seizures wont occur. i think its directly related to the quality of sleep. since certian natural herbs and roots cause sedation, like indica weed, they also help supress seizures a great deal. in california you can get a prescription for having epilepsy. but definitely not here in virginia beach.

 

natural solutions include meditation and prayer. these kinda help if you can retain that conciousness... also being strong and courageous helps, not giving in to fear. pray to god for compassion and love and he will help you if you are sincere. from a spiritual standpoint, watch what u do. what u do unto others comes back times three, be graceful and giving and life will be graceful with you. namaste.

 

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Very interesting post, reminds me of a conversation that I had with somebody in Marina House sober living. This person had to be in a sober living due to excessive drug use plus a seizure disorder. They kept insisting though that the pot actually helped them. I wonder if that is one of the accept medical uses of marijuana.

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Why is it so hard to understand that MJ helps people. It's seems nobody has a problem when people eat handfuls of pills and we as an society accept this as " mothers little helper" but as soon as someone say I use marijuana to control my condition and it does make my life better someone has to come and SPAM this site with drug rehab garbage.

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I've had epilepsy since i was 4 I'm 23 now my epilepsy is due to chemical imbalance (they don't know medicine works) I've talked to my doctor about the dos and don'ts every time i see him, he informed me that anything that messes with your head is not recommended especially in younger people, i asked him about alcohol he said that with alcohol and weed it depends a lot on the person and condition but that until your brain is developed none should be tested for females this is 18-20 males 19-21 (everyone varies and theses theories are ever changing check yourself) so when i was 20 i asked again about alcohol and told him i planed to try it he informed me to watch myself a week before and a week after to see if lightheadedness or ticks occurred and if before i try it wait if after contact him and take it slow see your reaction if no bad reaction you can continue and don't ever binge drink if you drink too much the "withdraw" can most definitely cause a seizure, i followed his advice and the one time i had a seizure in close proximity to drinking was after forgetting to take my medicine and also remember most epilepsy medications are also depression/bipolar medications and if ur medicine is hiding a possible case and alcohol is introduced bad things can happen to your psyci. I've never tried THC in any form mainly due to the legality of it but also because I was told that in my case at least it was not recommended ever. remember always in moderation and don't drive intoxicated hope this helps someone.

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I smoked marijuana for 7 years and I had to quit because I was wasting my life way. I didn't have any problems with seizures but I became so passive it wasn't healthy anymore.

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Thanks for the information.  You gave me all the reason I need not to try this.  Besides wasting your life away, I wouldn't be surprised if your waist became larger than healthy, since marijuana increases appetite.

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I also use weed cuz it helps my seizures and i dont beleive it will harm you...in a lot of ways it helps me. Having a seizure is worse damage to your brain then a little weed.

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