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Epileptic fits being no more than a mood swing under stress? Is this possible?

My psychiatrist has told me that i have epilepsy, caused by severe depression after I was attacked in the street and suffered harrasment when i lived in a different city. I have never had an epileptic seizure, but am depressed a lot of the time and i can become angry and distressed when someone is truly and heavily rude or dishonest to me (i will shout at them and cry). My doctor also gave me medication for my depression (Tegretol) which caused two hallucinations. I reported the hallucinations and the psychiatrist  said that they were a direct indicator of epilepsy. I am forced to think that this is a diagnosis caused by negligence, but he said that epileptic seizures can also be just a mood swing while someone is being nasty to you. Is this possible?

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Hi,Epilepsy can have lots of causes and there's very little known about epilepsy yet. About 150 different types of epilepsy are known by now but... the medical world still doesn't know more as 1% about the brain yet...Seizures can be triggered by lots & lots things, they also can present themselves in countless ways and... yes having mood swings after some sort of stress is certainly one of them. Usually people think of someone falling on the ground with no reason and who starts shouting and shaking, but... that's just one of _many_ ways a seizure can present itself.best wishes,Bartthe Netherlands. 

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But what i mean to say is, if i am depressed and cry when someone is nasty to me, this means i am epileptic? (this is what the doctor was saying) and that he gives me medicine that makes me have hallucinations, but then says the hallucinations are a sign i am epileptic, making no refence to it being a side effect of the medicine?

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An epileptic seizure starts in the brain, and can effect every function of the brain.  Everything from actions, through to thoughts gets screwed up because the brain is throwing a tantrum. I think it is possible, for the hallucinations to be part of that tantrum, after all, where do these hallucinations come from..................................the brain.

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Good reply,and quite true....A new study by Yale researchers has shown that low levels of an enzyme in the brain are connected with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE), which affects 40 percent of the 2.5 million Americans with epilepsy  http://yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=24967http://www.emedicine.com/NEURO/topic365.htmwww.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/epilepsy_temporallobe.html

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Hi,  By the way, you said you were attacked on the streets.  What do you mean by that?  Did it cause you to suffer a head injury.  A head injury no matter if is open or closed is a common cause of epilepsy.  As for your neuro, I guess I would get a new one.

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A good answer, and I agree with you about getting a new neuro might I add that this psych,or neuro who came up with the reply given that is causing confusion and anxiety,would be better off going to see one as well in this case.

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A good answer monalisa.I agree with you and fishfry on this .

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It seems that from the information you provided that you're psychiatrist is basing a diagnosis of epilepsy on very little information. Were you referred to a neurologist? Do you have head injury? What about a neuropsychologist? It seems that there would be a lot of other reasons why one would become angry and distressed when someone is rude or dishonest. Why would a psychiatrist assume that mood swings were epilepsy and why would the psychiatrist not colloborate with a neurologist to make such a decision. Are you in therapy for the mood swings and whatever happened regarding the harrassment. It seems that would be more effective than tegretol.

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no, i have never had a head injury, and was never referred to anyone else. The first time i met him, thats what he said. No therapy has ever been offered either.

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You wrote... My psychiatrist has told me that i have epilepsy, caused by severe depression ....My opinion only,Depression does not create nor cause one to become an epileptic or cause a seizure disorder.if that were the case,based on the amounts of anti depressions prescibed and sold in this country,the stats on seizure disorders would be much higher than it already is.However, often times, depression may accompany certain types of seizures, and may be a pre or postictal reponse, or even an emotinal response to a seizure,but to say that depression causes a seizure disorder?This is new to me.Tegretol and your response to it,(hallucination} I don't think is an accurate way of diagnosing a seizure disorder.If that were the case, diagnosing seizure disorders, would be a lot less costly and time consumming.Hallucinations can be a symptom of many many things.From sleep deprivation,medications, certain illicit drug use,certain migranes,psychological factors and disorders,to a host of other non seizure/epilepsy related reasons.Although they "may" be an aspect of particular seizure types or syndromes,but to use Tegretol and an hallucinating event to diagnose a seizure disorder is new to me.Just my opinion.I may also have misread your post.If that is the case,please do respond or elaborate.Jude

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Could I ask if you are medically qualified to state the reasons given that you have in your post please,if so how long have you been practising as a psychiatrist or a neuro?The original poster asked why their psychiatrist had reached the decision they had based on the information given... without either consulting another more qualified member of the medical profession .. 

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Hello,I'm not certain the response from gentlewings was directed at me or not.I just recieved it in my e-mail.So I'll answer anyway.No I am not a medical professional.I, like many on a public forum such as this one,am not a qualified prof. Nor do I attempt to provide a diffinitive dx. on a message board....and that's why I did not provide one.I'm willing to bet that professionals are least apt to provide any medical advice on a public forum,unless it is specifically geared to answer questions with the understanding that it is not a substitute for seeking medical treatment.Even then,disclaimers are quite clear regarding any information provided .But still, even then it is not a substitute for seeking medical advice.Big ethical and legal liability issues I would think, would stop anyone that is an M.D. to provide such information on a public communication board.However,I did state in my post that it was my own opinion and that Depression being a cause for a seizure disorder,was yes, news to me.However,depression can be associated with some seizure types/ syndromes.I also understand that those reading a message board/forum such as this, ought not take any statements read, as concrete medical advice.I'm sure there is a disclaimer somewhere on this site.Given that,did I answer your question?Best Regards,Jude

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No.You waffled.No offence given.I suggest you read your post again,as well as this one.Regarding your statements about advice given on message boards. I suggest that you answer your Instant messages from me regarding that in this thread please.Best regards Gentlewings.

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Gentlewings,What does waffled mean and how do I find Instant Message?Or is Instant message the items that I find in my e-mail?Confused re: options on this site.I have read my posts.Perhaps due to the potential for inaccurate message interpretation by others, is why I don't often use public message boards as much as I use to.Then again,it could also be on my end.Again,Best Regards,Jude Rouslin

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Gentlewings, It seems you owe an apology to Jude. Please read his original post again. He states in the beginning of his post that it is his own opinion. His opinion makes a lot of sense. He never claims to be a medical professional. Again....he states it is his own opinion. What set you off? Kaayla

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Kaayla.I have read the posts.I don't think an apology is neccessary.Jude's post seems to consist of personal thoughts against drug manufacturer's and is not the place upon here for those.They might make sense regarding that granted,but should be addressed in another more say politaical forum than thisview(My opinion only).Jude has I believe their own forum to express that point of view regarding drugs. Also the post is not answering the question posed by the original poster seeking help.Again,my opinion only.   

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kaayla,Thank you.No apology is needed in this case as I am fully aware that there is absolutely,no guarentee that another reader will comprehend and percieve a message accurately as the writer intended.However,a participant's response to a post,does provide a window into one's psychie and motivation for responding with such innaccuracies and anger.Such as the case here.Unfortunate for those that arrive on a message board for the sole purpose of seizure related communications, as their expectations may not be fulfilled . Also, one may be met with some hostility from those that make it a point to travel Seizure Forums all over the net,using multiple users names,correspond to their multiple identities as if seperate individuals, which means they converse with themselves,and lastely,by those that enter seizure related forums under the false pretenses of having a seizure disorder or their own seizure diagnosis is questionable to say the least.However they may simply have a strong need to belong to a specific group which they become obsessed with, on many levels and for many reasons.It's so unfortunate, as the individual does appear to have mixed messages,that are laden with anger and hostility and often times do not make literary sense ,especially as the thread continues on, as their responss often times miss the mark or subject matter totally.To the original poster of this thread,If there is a doubt in your mind that treatment recieved by a health professional is questionable,I can only suggest that you seek a second opinion and a third if neccessary.As a medical consummer,it is your right.Message forums are wonderful tools for exchanging experiences,ideas,and resources,however,medical advice provided on a board ought be taken with a grain of salt.Always seek and rely on a licenced professional.Best Regards,Jude Rouslin

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I read the post as well.It would seem as gentlewings and monalisa have said,there was nothing helpful at all in your reply Jude.I agree that it was more suited to a different type of forum than this one.I have checked out the site mentioned as being owned by yourself.I have to say as a site owner with a chatroom facility,then you  Jude certainly must know what Instant messengers are. You must have an idea and if not ,and the person on here as Tibet2 is the same Tibet on your board,then they could possibly fill you in  for future reference next time you  post in here.Within your own posts in your forum are laden replies with anger against your Government and it's politicians.There was no anger that I could see in the post by gentlewings,only yours in reply to the original question posed by a person bewildered at their treatment by a psychiatrist.Your reply seemed more aimed at anger at drug manufacturers.I certainly saw no understanding of what was being asked by the poster of the original question in your reply.You posed a question,and answered it.As you yourself have said in your own forum.You in the past were part of a group that were a kind of sisterhood, and you yourselves were not averse to going into a forum and being less than polite.Also from reading your words upon your board,you also in the past have not been averse to making other judgements on people,without even knowing them either as people. 

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Wonderwoman2.I have checked it out myself  and this is the address for it.As you say,there are posts within that forum as you have described.There were last time I read it.I have read it again before posting,and cannot  find any disclaimer at all upon that site regarding giving of advice.As I cannot upon the site owned by Tibet2 either.http://elliott.hmc.washington.edu/winetpubdiscus/Regarding people entering forums Jude,and using more than one name.I have a question or two for you.Can I ask you Jude why you yourself found it neccessary to join this one under two names,and also why you were in here last night- along with Tibet2 ,for various lengths of time and kept leaving and returning as you did the pair of you.Are you working together,if so then why?Also in your third reply in this thread,you yourself have a made what appears to be remarks that could be construed,again wrongly by anyone that reads them,as well as being a  medical diagnosis.I,myself am a member of Bridgette Sullivan's new forum,and she has for a long while been involved in raising awareness of SUDEP,which I fully support.Which there is a 'need' for raising awareness of. Does this mean that because of that we are suffering from some sort of  psychological illness,and that anyone who does join her board-using just one name has to prove to her their diagnosis of epilepsy to post on there,or in here first. Her members consist of people who post in more than one forum.Bridgette herself is a respected member of EFA.She was also banned unfairly from the board that Tibet2 owns.

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I think Lee has said what needed to be said. Far better than I ever will. As he says he reads what's written,and why.He formed his own opinion and read from all sides,and sources,then decided himself what was fact and fiction.I'm adding that he's right in saying that it's easy to judge,and want what's written to be that,to be misrepresented,and in ways the author of the post wants it to be.That's something Lee has pointed out already in this thread.A phrase that comes to mind here Jude is,' Not what is seems', to get across messages that contained hidden metaphors.Done,while travelling these boards you speak of-laptop in hand at times.For a purpose that we both are well aware of why.Which is a shame asthere was no need. You formed a judgement. Lee didn't.He can, and has been judged by himself and others. So has Harish-who's Indian and lives within a society were everyday he's judged quite simply because he has what's considered to be something shameful(epilepsy)Mona was judged because her own specialist wouldn't listen. Sitting in judgement is easy to do,a reason I wish you well with,and hope that you don't get judged about,I hope you both find acceptance,not judgement.I hope the words of Lee were read and understood for that reason.For it seems lately that a lot of forums are asking for understanding through judgement calls made by others.I hope they get it. 

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They are asking for understanding pip. I hope that there is-for those that want it as badly as they do. I'm reading on another board, it's wanted, and they are going all,'out,' to explain why.I hope that one day Harish finds acceptance,and his way to that board.For anyone interested (they could read them over the tea,and coffee maybe?)then the first link shows what women in Harish's society have to put up with when diagnosed with epilepsy,how they are judged(it paints a really good picture.)Acceptance is what his  mother wants for him,that's very easy to give.So it is to get a message across,if you have a laptop,it will travel anywere.When I did all the reading I did,I looked for understanding and found it's easy at times being an elephant in the room when you already have the example to work off.As it was to offer excuses that used epilepsy as an excuse to judgement call others.http://newsarchives.indiainfo.com/2000/11/14/epilepsy1.htmlhttp://www.cnsindia.com/Epilepsy/patients/intro.aspSkyscape,I hope that your wait is an easy one,that you are seen soon by one that knows,and when you are,that you find acceptance and peace of mind about what tests and treatment you need.I hope you get acceptance and understanding,and not a judgement.

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I'm hoping also that what has been asked for happens,and the judgements do stop.It's time they did.I also hope that you both find acceptance,don't get judged.It can be really easy to judge others,easy to offer excuses that use epilepsy as an excuse to judgement call others.It is easy to not offer help needed,along with understanding and support,that if given,be nothing useful,have laptop will travel do that.Life can be tough enough as it is without others handing down judgement as a right to. This link might interest you Jude,as much as I hope it helps Skyscape,who my hope is finds the help needed,and they are not judged unkindly. Some AEDs have both inhibitory and excitatory properties (e.g., topiramate, levetiracetam, and zonisamide) and tend to be more sedating than activating, but can also cause anxiety, irritability, and depression. http://www.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/interprob_aeds.html  

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Hi.I just dropped by to post these links that I researched, the first one asks the question I myself (not me.)thought was being asked by others along with myself in this thread.Can I just stress the views in this post are my own,and not representative of anyone else. The second link does answer what was being asked, it should come in handy, if you save it for future reference somewhere just for you(and not for me.)I mean that from myself.The third link discusses the meaning of 'interpretation' .I found that interesting, and sure hope you do.Along with the other two links they all  paint a picture easy to understand why you have-and others wondered why you felt as you did legitimately when taking an AED.Others who do post,maybe wondering why they feel as they do when going through an AED changeover might be interested in why that is,as  pointed out in the links.One that has feeling linked to  legitimate relationship to AED effect. Not any other cause, though there are ways of working that in,I and others have read. Jude might find those views posted about that interesting.I did, that Canada has very liberal laws on marriage, and I along with others wish them both well that need those laws. Maybe Jude could discuss the points with her girlfriend over a meal next time they meet up. I'm sure Harish,who right now is taking the time, and patience (his laptop is being put to good use,as he only has the one.) trying to get food,along with clothing  distributed in India, would agree with that.He also would wish them well,as I'm sure that he would also agree, his 'writing style' at the moment is not the best, but his own.It always was, not as your girlfriend assumed Jude...As she said though,'she never makes a mistake'.She should have talked to Cynthia,about that one,or yourself.Never go to the mountain when you can consult a qualified professional,or read the good articles on here,is my view,and mine only.Another idea of mine (not 'me',or anyone else) was,they could research the effects of 'hot water epilepsy'when they next meet,over a meal.Should add spice to "it'(go easy on the onion.) as the cartoons on Jude's board certainly do add spice to the posts on there when I read it.Just an idea from someone who does make mistakes in life,and is not medically qualified. 'Was there a temporal relationship between the onset of psychiatric symptoms and the introduction, dose change, or withdrawal of an AED? Psychiatric symptoms can represent side effects of AEDs, in which case dose reduction or discontinuation of the new AED should result in symptom remission. Also, several AEDs have mood-stabilizing properties. Their discontinuation may have unmasked an underlying mood disorder. In these cases, reintroduction of the AED or another AED with mood-stabilizing properties may lead to symptom remission.'http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/behavioral_evaluating.html   In addition to preventing recurrence of manic, hypomanic, or depressive episodes in bipolar patients, carbamazepine and valproic acid have antimanic properties. As already mentioned, lamotrigine has antidepressant properties. Accordingly, clinicians should consider the use of these AEDs in patients with these comorbid psychiatric disorders, as seizure control and mood stabilization may occur at the same time. 'On the other hand, discontinuing carbamazepine, valproic acid, or lamotrigine in patients with a history of mood disorder may precipitate the recurrence of psychiatric symptoms. Patients and family members should be alerted to that possibility.'http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/behavioral_treatment.htmlBecause AEDs may affect cognition and behavior independently, these areas were discussed separately. Issues involving study design, interpretation of results, and how these findings can guide individual patient treatment strategies were also discussed. The determination of individual patient outcomes following treatment requires the ability to determine genuine change statistically, and then to subsequently translate those results in a manner that communicates the clinical significance of the statistical findings.http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/ar_1101825090.html

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Anything can be open to being misrepresented.I just replied to another person called lee?As I said in that post,being non -judgemental and open and receptive does help when reading -that means anything.I mean that kindly,for I did that, and tried not to misinterpret what it was I was reading and form a view- not based on what I thought was happening,and to get the proper message that was there.That is understanding.To do that? all sides do have to be seen and listened to.I then came and read your  replies.You in your own replies wanted to get a message across? I read your posts, read the others,didn't read your own message board,but others have,and in the past must have read both your thoughts,and your words.Read your own words,and your own messages you were getting across then.You have strong opinions,and that came through?what also comes through?you were not being judged on those words of yours.Nothing was expressed  that said your own  opinion you have is or was wrong.Just  that .You were seen as you.No judgement calls were made,and shouldn't have been.Maybe  to you ,when you read, you do feel,because people believe,or have, and do express a view,they are in someway different ,that sets them aside from the rest?you feel in a way that's not acceptable.You have made that  view plain(as I have to 2 in particular who do not post in here ,but who I really would like to catch up with.)before, and again now.How you handle things is up to you,as it  is,how others do so ,has to be up to them.They can struggle enough without being judged,and be telling the truth in that struggle,and  be judged less than kindly.We are all different,I accept that as I do, that at times things are not seen as they should be( as I said in my reply to Lee)when it's right there in front of someone. That's true and it always will be.        

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  You wrote... My psychiatrist has told me that i have epilepsy, caused by severe depression .... My opinion only,Depression does not create nor cause one to become an epileptic or cause a seizure disorder.if that were the case,based on the amounts of anti depressions prescibed and sold in this country,the stats on seizure disorders would be much higher than it already is. However, often times, depression may accompany certain types of seizures, and may be a pre or postictal reponse, or even an emotinal response to a seizure,but to say that depression causes a seizure disorder?This is new to me. Tegretol and your response to it,(hallucination} I don't think is an accurate way of diagnosing a seizure disorderHey Jude?The above was what you wrote in reply to the original question posed,giving your interpretation as you saw it...This is the latest on this subject,I thought that this might interest the both of you further regarding 'facts and genuine research undertaken',whilst the laptops are still busy doing assessments,handwriting analysis,or drawing up the future menus? There's one notable difference here...This is  true,'research',not surmising.Maybe,you would like to revise your original judgement calls?The link between depression and epilepsy is being reviewed after research suggests that people with a history of depression were up to seven times more likely to develop epilepsy.Researchers had previously noted a higher incidence of depression among people with epilepsy than the general population or others with chronic conditions such as diabetes.However, new evidence describes the connection between epilepsy and depression as 'maybe a two-way street,” according to research carried out in Sweden and the United States.http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/index.html

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These links might help understand what ,and why is happening to you.I hope they help.Your psychiatrist should have read this first one in reaching a diagnosis.Given the enormous burden depression can have on epilepsy patients, recognising the signs and treating the symptoms of depression in this population is as important as treating the underlying condition itself. Physicians evaluating individuals with epilepsy need to be aware of how common it is for epilepsy patients to experience symptoms of depression and how profound the combined impact of epilepsy and depression can be on their quality of life."When selecting an anti-epileptic treatment, clinicians should strongly consider using agents that not only will help epilepsy but may also improve symptoms of depression. Better treatment may also help these patients improve their overall quality of life, particularly in work, social and family domains."http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/index.html What scientists don't yet know is why the hippocampus is smaller. Investigators have found that cortisol (a stress hormone that is important to the normal function of the hippocampus) is produced in excess in depressed people. They believe that cortisol has a toxic or poisonous effect on the hippocampus. It's also possible that depressed people are simply born with a smaller hippocampus and are therefore inclined to suffer from depressionhttp://www.cchs.net/health/health-info/docs/0600/0652.asp?index=9286   

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Mona Lisa,I am just expressing my own opinion. I do think gentlewings overreacted to Jude's email on this site. Perhaps, there is a lot more going on on other sites. I also disagreed with you. I do not think Jude was attacking the use of drugs to control epilepsy. I am guessing a lot more is going on due to views on another site. I think the initial point is that a psychiatrist should not be making a diagnosis of epilepsy without working in tandem with a neurologist. Skyscape said he was depressed. Skywalker said he has not had a seizure. I agree that people with epilepsy can be burdened with depression. Skyscape has depression, but the question is... does skyscape have epilepsy? Skyscape said he has not had an epileptic seizure. Why did his psychiatrist not refer him to a neurologist? What about an EEG or an MRI, etc...... kaayla

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Hi,  I would first like to know if one hasn't had an epileptic seizure, what right does does a shrink have to diagnose it as such.  It would only seem logical that the client be referred to a neurologist.  Let me proffer a caveat here:  I am not a doctor nor do I claim to be.  However, the shrink would be qualified to say if it were a converision reaction. 

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Kaayla.I quite agree after reading these two articles that were sent through to me by gentle wings, that further testing is needed,certainly a visit to a neuro should have been suggested-I have said that in an earlier reply. In answer to seizures being related to depression, the first link answers jude's first post. Research is showing there is a link. Therefore skyscape needs to ask to be  referred  to a neuro, and the testing you are asking for in your reply to be done by doing that. I have again said that in an earlier post,a further opinion was required. gentle wings asked the question by messenger I asked in public, and therefore got the reply posted. I cannot answer regarding email from jude as I have not had any from jude, nor has gentle wings to my knowledge. I'm sure that gentlewings would have told me when they mailed me over weekend about this topic. Having read the 2nd link I'm posting, and the definition given in that for epilepsy, and Jude's first post again,I am still of the same opinion as I was in my post, that no benefit to skywalker was gained by jude's reply regarding hallucinations.There was in the third reply from jude, but not regarding casting aspersions on people who do participate in forums. I cannot answer for skywalker and were else they do post.What is epilepsy? A brief explanationIn short, epilepsy is a condition of the brain. Epilepsy is not a disease. Brain cells communicate with each other by means of tiny bursts of electrical activity. Sometimes a group of brain cells has an unexpected, erratic electrical discharge. This event produces a seizure. Someone who has multiple seizures is said to have epilepsy, which is defined as a functional disorder of the brain caused by sudden, brief malfunctions. These malfunctions may cause uncontrollable shaking (convulsions). They may also cause loss of awareness, confusion or even disturbance of the senses (visual and aural hallucinations, phantom odors, etc.) The classification of epilepsy are divided into three main groups: Epilepsy Causes, Epilepsy Syndromes and Epilepsy Seizure Types.http://www.bcepilepsy.com/_archive/24typesseiz.htmResearch is increasingly showing a compelling link between depression and epilepsy.  A study reported in the February 2000 issue of Annals of Neurology found that older adults who are clinically depressed are six times as likely to have a seizure as their peers, suggesting that a common factor may be the cause of both depression and seizures. Not surprisingly, some individuals who have not responded to antidepressant therapy do respond to anticonvulsant medications such as Lamotrigine (Lamictal), Gabapentin (Neurontin), and Topiramate (Topamax).  These medications are currently only approved for people who have seizures, but there are many case reports supporting their use for treatment resistant mood disorders.Following this link to it's logical next step, researchers have begun to investigate the use of an epilepsy treatment called Vagus Nerve Stimulation (VNS) as a treatment for depression.  Results of a VNS pilot study showed that 40% of the treated patients displayed at least a 50 percent or greater improvement in their condition, according to the Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression.  Half the patients also had at least a 50% improvement on the Montgomery Asberg Depression Rating Scale. The condition of several patients improved so substantially that they were able to return to work or other normal activities.http://depression.about.com/library/weekly/aa121900.htm 

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Skyscape- You need a neurologist NOT a psychiatrist to diagnose epilepsy! For a psychiatrist to prescribe tegretol without having the proper diagnosis from an EEG and/or MRI is absolutely criminal. Get yourself to someone who can diagnose properly. If you are having mood swings or stress related problems that is one thing but you do not want to be labelled epileptic if you are not!! nor do you want to take anticonvulsants if you do not need them. Tegretol can cause hallucinations as well as other anitconvulsant drugs which is a side effect YOU DO NOT WANT. Where on earth are you living??? Do you have a primary doctor who can give you a second opinion??? You need to see a different doctor sweetie.

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I live in Brixham,  southern England.... 

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England has a very good knowledge base for Epilepsy so I would really seek a neurologist or a medical doctor concerning this. You may have epilepsy and you may not but at least give yourself the option of finding out for sure. I will pray for you.

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Karolwf,the knowledge base is better, no doubt of that, just it could be better than it is. This means for Skyscape there might well be a problem in getting a proper diagnosis due to 'funding' issues still. The new NICE guidelines are out that give a different view than mine of what still needs to be done ?http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/action/I'm sorry Skyscape about that believe me. I wish you luck with this, I really do. I can only suggest that you go visit your GP and tell them how you feel, and ask them to refer you to your local consultant. I realise that your psychiatrist will be unwilling to confer with the consultant-as they don't believe in crossing into each other's specialised field, but your GP should be able to help round that one in their referral letter. I realise there might be a wait-quite a lengthy one to get into see one, and if you can-will you mail me about this and fill me in on what's happening for you?   

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I feel like alice in wonderland trying to read all of the apologies and message board ethics , so I haven't read many of them, but to the person with the question, depression is generally caused by anticonvulsants , to my knowledge. I have bad depression spells and irritability spells also, but in no way are they close to seeming like a sz. Find another doctor b4 u take the pills again.