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ao_kiddo
ao_kiddo

Frustrated, Confused and Scared-Any advice is much appreciated

Hello!

My name is Ashley and my journey with possibly having seizures started last month. In the middle of September I began feeling "weird" or out of it and abnormally sleepy at work. One Saturday I was alone at home playing a computer game when all of a sudden I began to feel very strange-everything started to move in slow motion and I felt myself become weak and then I lost some time. I didn't end up on the floor or wake up in a weird place, but I noticed things had happened in my game that indicated I was out for a period of time (Anyone play Sims 3? :D). I was so confused and disoriented afterward. Then I got super tired and all I wanted to do was sleep-I slept for a couple of hours and was okay. 9/21 I woke up abnormally late (hadn't been out late or partying the night before) and had an aura that began to change shape and pattern. I began having these "episodes" where I "spaced" out and moving or twitching my hands. I would become confused and slept most of the day. After a while I got freaked out and my fiance took me to the ER. CT scan turned up nothing, as did any bloodwork. The neuro resident said it was most likely absent seizures, gave me a Rx for Trileptal and said I had to come back to the hospital for MRI and EEG on an outpatient basis. Mind you, this has never happened to me before-I have had no history or immediate family history of any seizure activity. 

Had the MRI and EEG done, both came back normal. Frustrated, the doctor I followed up with was a real piece of work. He was rude & extremely dissmissive that I was experiencing anything at all. He told me to stop the Trileptal as I was not experiencing seizures but migraines with aura's but without the pain. He couldn't explain the jerking, confusion or exhaustion afterwards. 

I found a second opinion that seemed to be better. He said it was most likely seizures and ordered a 48 hr vEEG. In the meantime I am not allowed to go to work and I am not allowed to drive. My epsiodes have increasingly gotten worse-my legs and now my whole body shakes when these things happen, they are happening more frequently around my period, and they are more frequent. My levels of confusion and alterness afterward vary, but the tiredness sometimes turns into anxiety, embarassment and shame (I was out at Target and it was bad), which usually results in tears. I also have frequent headaches and have been taking too much ibuprofen.

Today I have a follow-up with Dr. #2 about my vEEG results. He was 25 min late to our appointment (he was at the hospital), acted like we hadn't had any discussion about anything that happens during the seizures, etc. He told me that my vEEG results were normal and anytime I pushed the button, there was nothing there. He said I need to go back to the first doctor and the first hospital (even though I had nicely explained to him before that I wouldn't be going back to Dr. #1 because I didn't care for his bedside manner and his dismissive behavior, also indicating that I wanted him to be my doctor). And he dissmisses me and my problem. He didn't even tell me what he thought it was-he just told me to go back and sent me on my way. My fiance was trying to tell him that there is SOMETHING going on with me and he kept repeating that the tests were normal, so he couldn't help me.

I may not have seizures, but I have no idea what is happening to my body. Everyone in my family (excluding my future husband and in-laws) think I should go back to Dr. #1 because he is supposed to be the best, but I don't want a dismissive jerk doctor. Thoughts? Advice? I don't know what to do. Thanks. 

By ao_kiddo at Thu, 10/29/2009 - 6:02pm | 32 views | 3 comments

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Hey! So the similarities in our stories are freakish! Exact same happened to me, the tired ness, the black out, the relapse of time, confusion, missing work/driving, stupid doctors all of the above; same story.

They found out my heart had been stopping even though they didnt catch it for several months. So i suggest you go to a cardiologist and explain everything to him, ask about a "tilt table" test and a three day EKG.

Before they found out my heart had been stoping i had a vEEG and it came back negitive, they told me i was having pseudoseizures, they have now found out they were wrong, and my "ticking" and "episodes" that couldnt be explained now could have something to do with my nervous system and my reproductive organs. (I get bad episodes right before and right after my period)

Keep pushing, keep searching for new doctors, sometimes the "best" aren't the "best" in your situation. Give them time to believe you, so you can prove to them exactly what is wrong, but also realize in order to save time, going to mulitple doctors of the same speicalty at the same time is not bad. It's good to get mulitple opinions. Just dont let them fight over what medication to put you on. That's when you will have to choose between them.

I also agree with 'EMW' Check out the Mayo. I havent visited there yet but will soon if they cant get things more under control. Just hang in there, this will be a crazy journey, but keep your humor, be your own advocate and things will be just fine. Good luck!

jc-32

Hello ao_kiddo,
I have to first admit your picture of 'young' Spock, drew me to your discussion. I just saw the movie and enjoyed it very much.

But on to more serious thoughts, I don't think we can recommend dr's directly here, but I will say the Mayo Clinic has helped me control my seizures.

I have had seizures for over 30 years and I have hated every dr I had until I went to the Mayo Clinic about 12 years ago.

Good Luck.

emw

My name is Jim.

After having a number of car accidents (fell asleep due to sleep apnea), I had a severe head trauma hitting a curb with my head on a new bicycle I was trying out without a helmit.  This caused TLE or temporal lobe epilepsy.  I damaged part of my brain, and had a feeling of impending doom.  I lost part of my cognitive functioning, and had to retire teaching.

I also have ADD, and see a psychiatrist who knows more about neurology than most eminent neurologists.  He was a professor at both Princeton and Rutgers, and is in private practice in Princeton.  I had a BEAM (computereized EEG) and a SPECT (radioactive tag to determine biochemical indices) test.  A more modern test to have done is a PET (positive emmison tomography) test.

I've been through the deepest depression, and put on many different psychotropic drugs.  My first seizure was actually caused by a med, Welbutrin or buproprion, an antidepressant which was later found to lower seizure threshold.  I was one of the first patients put on this drug, and was also put on a Lithium (Eskalith) drug for an incorrectly diagnosis of manic depression (bipolar).  When I went to see an expert in epilepsy, he told me that the two drugs I was taking"make you fat and stupid".  He was right!

Many psychiatrists and neurologists are idiots.  Many Drs. of these types are in it for the $, and think they know it all.  One neurologist I went to early on when I was depressed but before my bicycing accident didn't know much about AD/HD.

Flashing lights, strobe lights and video games can trigger seizures.  My seizures were simple partial ones, and when I had them while teaching things got foggy or dark but I stayed standing, however almost didn't know where I was nor the names of my students.  I still take one AE med, Stavzor, a new timed release valproic acid formula.  I was taking Depakote ER but one of my Dr's. patients died due to a bad batch of that drug, and another also got a severe case of pancreatitis (if my shi**y memory serves me correctly that caused the death).

If you live anywhere near the central NJ area, my Dr., Peter Sterling Mueller gives a free weekly group session at his office in Princeton at 5:00 PM.   He is a true genius,with a 185 IQ but has a worse case of ADD than some of his patients.  He holds two drug patents, and the most recent one is for alternative brain related uses of the diet drug Meridia which has been shown to actually cure PTSD (post-traumatic stree disorder)!

We've been trying to get the word out on this as so many of our troops are coming back with more than simple depression, and are being shortchanged by being given cheaper formularly drugs and not the better ones.  I've been on several forms of carbamazapine (final one carbatrol), oxcarbamazapine (sp?), and valproic acid in several formulations.  I was also on Lamictal, and the drug you were put on.

If you have good health insurance, don't be afraid to see more doctors.  And especially don't opt for therapy over medication.  Most psycological problems can be helped with the right med(s), however it is an art and not always a science as different people react differently to the same drug even when they might have a single definitive diagnosis.

You are not crazy, and I wish you the best of luck finding the right doctor.  BTW, an EEG or MRI can be worthless in diagnosing epilepsy.  Epilepsy is basically unusual electrical activity in the brain, and an MRI & CAT scans will usually only show physical damage or anomolies.  Unless you are actually having a seizure an EEG won't show much.

 

Jim Ro...

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