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victor...
victor...

Ecstatic Seizures

 Hi

Has anyone experienced "ecstatic" seizures?  I've had a series of them recently, and they are amazing: totally outside the range of normal experience and by far the best experiences of my life!  I'm not religious or "spiritual" but recognise that they could be construed by others as deep and meaningful life changing events...evidence of the "divine" as opposed to neurological events. 

I've been told by my neurologist they are very rare and I've not been able to find out much about them/share experiences. 

Victoria

Hello all,  I'm adding this comment just over a month after the original post having realised that the thread is now incredibly confusing and there are some misunderstandings following what seem to be random postings.   You may want to follow the date order of the posts before making comments or coming to conclusions.   

Regards,

Victoria

By victor... at Thu, 08/27/2009 - 3:32am | 7310 views | 626 comments

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MaxJones

Max,

Thanks so much for the link. I think I'll be spending a lot of time there. It is so hard to find stuff that you don't have to pay to read.

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Thanks for info. Max.

Hi to everyone else; just checking in to see how you're doing? Hope you all had an enjoyable Xmas and New Year. Will post on Zealot's main thread too...

Best wishes,
Victoria

victor...

Victoria,

Thanks. I hope your holidays were wonderful, too. Same goes for all the rest of you.

Happy New Year, everyone!

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Hello everyone,

 

I just wanted to share some of my thoughts with you.....

Please take the time to read and review.  Try to open up your heart to what I'm saying. I have experienced similar feelings ---euphoria, also thoughts of grandure, experiences that seem unexplainable, depression,  insecurity, thinking I'm some sort of savior or spiritual leader or shaman,  having a fate of helping people, even now in the back of my mind the possibilty that I'm here now to help you.  I guess thats what I'm trying to do.   Feel like I am suppose to save someone or everyone even if it caused me pain or death. 
I would die for you.  I know, even I doubt it when I think on it too long, but my initial honest thought was yes when I asked myself "Would I die for the person reading this?" 

If only one person was comforted in some way by this it would be worth it to me.  It comforts me to do it.

I would like to share a personal journal entry I wrote a few days ago.

7/13/11

Something profound is nice
I try to feel as if it is all profound.
Just that I can have these thoughts of my own and how many there are.
Life is profound
My life is profound.
Your life is profound.
Life overall in existence is profound.
Be grateful, just greatful
not ungrateful just appreciate what is.
You can be as happy as you allow yourself to be.
Fake it till you make it.
Believe it until you recieve it.
First
It is not what you are doing, but why you are doing.
Be your true self
Release your thoughts with caution, but don't forget them.
Pay attention to the thoughts
yuo have to take that thought
find the root of it and pull it out.
Forget the negative moment
that made the root and release the thought.
Most of our troubles are from past events haunting us.
Do not allow the person,, thought, or event continue to cause you more negativity.
Move on
Don't focus on your troubles, but
Focus on your blessings.
Feel the way you know you deserve....
Happy, Joy, Peace
Anything is bearable if you can find this.
Believing you can will greatly increase your chances of success.
LIVE TO GIVE THE ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE

Thank you for reading if you made it this far.  The passed 3 or 4 months have especially been life changing.  I have really been trying to make the switch from thinking negative to thinking positive.  Not worrying about what happened or what is going to happen, but focusing enjoying or at least appreciating on what is happening, and taking the initiative to make that what I want Everything in my life has effected me and made me who I am, and its the not so good times that have made me stronger and more aware of the struggle of life which we all live.  Its all about NOW, this is the only time you can live this moment, NOW, so if anything appreciate that.  The breathe you just took.  The word you just read.  This is me saying HI again.  And this is a completley different me than it was 3 or 4 months ago. I'm thankful now having the thought of someone being thankful for something I wrote.  That thankfulness being interupted by a unpleasent feelings when thoughts that no one will read or be thankful or comforted, but this is the thought I must learn to overcome.  Someone will read  this and something will stick.  Nevertheless, I would like to share also a poem I wrote 7/14/11.

Constant Change

Sitting here wondering on the why
Why we wander astray from on the way
a stray wonders why he is in a daze
Destined to wander the rest his days

A bound prisoner of perpetual motion
Change is the only constant, being the notion
Being a rolling stone to forever wander
When and how he got here does he ponder

Shackled by the chains which he made himself
Unable to see the amount of his wealth
The wealth of the ability to just be
Not dwelling on the thoughts of you or me

Within a world built between cat and mouse
What we see as a box he sees as a house
The similarity of our worlds so far apart
Yet the likeness within comes from our heart

The biggest difference being how we perceive
The abundance of love which we all receive

Dustin Taylor

I only want make someones day better.  Please take to heart my kind intentions.

 

If you understand, things are just as they are. If you don't understand, things are just as they are.
ZEN BUDDHIST SAYING

Live to Give the Attitude of Gratitude
Dustin

foxtrot

Hi Everyone,

I still often feel euphoria for no easily discernable reason. With moderate levels of euphoria, I assume the reason is either inadvertent Pavlovian or Operant Conditioning. Different variations similar to euphoria can often easily be conditioned with Skinnerian schedules of reinforcement, if more than coincidental chance experiences are desired (as Marcel Proust discovered with tea and morsel crumbs: "An exquisite pleasure invaded my senses.").

Much more intense divine sensation levels of euphoria and/or ecstasy still occur during the aura of my temporal lobe epilepsy, and are often experienced daily by me. I can't condition, trigger, nor stop, these frequent daily simple partial seizures. They seem multifaceted, but much like Dostoevsky's Epilepsy and the aura of pleasure. If the page translates (from Portuguese to English (google-chrome's translator works good here, and the "rough" translation adds to the inherent subjectivity)), this, and "The Idiot" Prince Myshkin's epilepsy, simplifies some of this:
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0004...
and more brief descriptions at: http://www.charge.org.uk/htmlsite/dost.shtml

The common comorbidity of, or relationship/overlap with, Asperger's Syndrome/Autism and TLE, and the differentiations, if they're independent, are all controversial: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1525505007...

Tadzio

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=15273865%20 Prince Myshkin interictal

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4648185 Proust's Literary Cookie Crumbles

3Hours...

Hi Tadzio

Great to have you back...pondering these seizures. I'll take a look at the links asap. I really get the multifaceted aspect of these experiences. Once started they seem to take on a life of their own. I'll respond to the rest of your post when I have more time in the next day or so. Just a few quick question though - do you crave or feel addicted to these seizures? Do they dominate your thought processes rather more than you would like? Hopefully you are still free of the tonic clonic seizures?

Take care,

Victoria

victor...

Hi Victoria,

My unconventional dosages of regular Keppra are still keeping the secondarily generalized tonic-clonic seizures in check during the about monthly clusters of stronger partial of seizures (about 28 months now since a definite tonic-clonic).

Ecstatic seizures remain much better than bland and/or fear aura limited seizures (bouts of synesthesia are very quickly cloying with the bland aura). I've honed my Pavlovian conditioning schedules down to where the post-ictal undesirable Limbic emotion after-effects of ecstatic seizures are easily minimized, though it doesn't influence the ictus of the seizure, and the prodrome and pre-ictals are too vague to make much of a determination of any direct results from conditioning.

I'm more addicted to coffee than the desire for more ecstatic seizures (they're a bit too frequent already), but they make fairly good happenstance reinforcers for the romantic arts, and somewhat prevent both satiation and declination to extinction of operants with many works of art. Some of my concerns with the drawbacks of neurosurgery were increased by studies on the side-effects both changing the more vague aspects of personality and often damaging subjective perceptions of works of art. The ecstatic seizures might dominate more over situations needing snap-judgments based on more negative situations (the previously more frequent fear aura were much more powerful in overriding everything else in the instant), but in following rational rules over more than an instant, they don't interfere with any thought processes more than I would like. Besides, I've had such strong and frequent fear aura previously with deja vu, I'm still overly fascinated by "nihilistic dismal doctrines" of Siger's (of Brabant) eternal recurrence, and the evident impossibility of free will (reading the translation of Lowith's version of Nietzsche's Eternal Recurrence is tempting, but the $60 price stops my free will (then it might be in some stack already).

I was to see my doctor next week, but I just received a call from the clinic that this doctor "moved on" too, like all the others. More of the Medicaid/Medicare federal laws passed in 2005 become more effective in the next couple of months, and even the most optimistic reviews based on actual content reek of Lifeboat ethics, except for material wealth, with the most important human value being expressed in the weight of gold. The rich and the poor and the branches of government are all currently playing a "game of chicken" with each other, and we're all suppose to eat cake, but most often, there's no cake to cut with the knife. Here I'm at, worried about just my Keppra, while the finances of world domination are treated as mere whimsical play tokens. So much for a solid foundation regarded forevermore by challengers with all those otherwise useless knives.

After the local nonsensical hubbub two years ago in the USA about that "Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless," ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/12/stephen-hawking-ent... ), How is health care doing in the U.K., with the teetering worldy collapse of most of global "tax-free for the rich" Capitalism centered in the USA? I'm "disgruntled" with Medicaid again (the feds call 60% of Medicaid patients "serviced" the same as being 100%, with repeated iterations allowed till 0% equals 100% for any very unlucky group).

Tadzio

3Hours...

Hi Tadzio,
Well I was feeling decidedly "epileptic" - wallowing in the gloomy post ictal depression that dogs me - but your Stephen-Hawking link did the trick and had me convulsing with laughter. Re: the previous post - poor translation I agree, and rather boring re-hashed unscientific "research"? I don't take notice of the personality thing any more. It's a pointless cul-de-sac.

The NHS is under attack and it can be frustrating being a patient, but as a life-long socialist I am a staunch supporter, and would willingly pay more tax to invest in making it better. I think many British people feel the same way, but none of the politicians have the balls to raise and ring-fence taxes specifically for healthcare. As Stephen Hawking said - the NHS has kept him alive and the people involved in my care do try really hard: I don't have problems getting drugs, support, continuity of care though sometimes things move at a slower pace than I would like. I understand there is a lack of investment in new technology and the situation will deteriorate further if the aristocratic, Etonian idiots, currently in power, get their way and dismantle the service. American healthcare "providers" are circling like vultures keen to make a fast buck/killing.

I like my doctors/medics Tadz, even when they tell me - we don't really know very much about the brain...your type of epilepsy...your seizures...argh! I'm waiting on some results and yet another change in medication...as the current combination doesn't really do the trick.

Take care, Victoria

PS At least the Murdoch empire/influence is unravelling here. This is extremely positive news! Very pleased to hear about your reprieve from the TC seizures. Oh there is another question for you; apologies if you've already mentioned/covered this elsewhere.  Do you get any episodes of throat constriction & breathing difficulties during the not so ecstatic partial seizures?

victor...

I wanted to add that I've had life changing events that were of divine nature. I did add I don't regret a single day because of the knowledge I gained through my experiences. I separate religion and spirituality. My spirituality is where I acknowledge the Divine and live outside of the material world. Was my spirituality affected by my seizures? Of course!

Devorah, you don't know me. You are right I didn't participate in the forum. I'll apologize if you think I made a rude remark, but well, I'm not going to get into it. I know the type of seizures I have and have done my research. There is the opposite of ecstatic...

Take Care 

Trish

Please tell me there are others in whom their movement disorders turned from curses into extremely pleasurable blessings. For me, the conversion came from a yoga that targets the vagus and other nerves with input to the parasympathetic nervous system. Is anyone willing to open a dialogue with me concerning this?

kevala

Kevala,

Why don't you start a forum on this subject. Then people will give you their feedback. I can't comment on that specific Yoga technique because I have no familiarity with it.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

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Trish,

Please learn how to use the reply control. You should have replied directly to my comment.

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Trish,

It's what I call the Agony and the Ecstasy. This is a long thread and it went on for over a year.

You posted on a forum where we've all been there done that and what I possibly misperceived to be a condescending tone. I do not understand why you feel compelled to resurrect this issue with two new posts.

Let sleeping dogs lie. I can't tell you where to post, but I fail to understand why you feel compelled to post at the top of a forum in which you did not participate.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

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 Sorry if you think I sounded rude. I know I don't post here often, but I do have tons of experience with these seizures. I went undiagnosed since I was in my early twenties and not all of mine were ecstatic. One thing I can tell you is I did LEARN from them. I don't regret a single day. All I wanted to point out is to beware of the line. The ecstatic seizures can be misleading. Hyper-religious vs spirituality: do you know the difference? Hyper-religious is what happens during a seizure. Spirituality will give you the strength to survive.

Sorry, I didn't mean any harm. Again, my apologies and I hope you can find some control.

Patti 

Trish

Victoria,

I really wish you would leave the last word on this forum since it is yours. After that, I think the cmments should be closed.

Trish was never a participant in this forum and her remarks to Tadzio were rather rude. I would like to see this extraordinary forum end on a positive note.

And it must end. RIP.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

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zealot

Hi Zealot,

The final word; a positive note… perhaps too onerous a responsibility for
me…but a few comments which I rather hope won’t close further discussion.  Although
I’ve had little energy, time or enthusiasm to communicate in recent months, I
do hope to hear how people are getting on.

 Not everyone appreciates Tadzio’s prodigious quest for knowledge and understanding and some contributors to forums are no doubt puzzled by his literary allusions, and as I’m sure you’ll
readily acknowledge; people with health conditions can be easily irritated and
brusque.  I’m guilty of this myself.  In fact, on a regular basis, many people
(even those dearly loved) irritate the sh*t out of me, and headaches and pain
and tiredness, and feeling over medicated or under medicated and anxious and not
quite in control, are never really an excuse for bad behaviour.  I just need to try harder.  I think you’ve asked a few questions which I haven’t responded to…

I do indeed love some opera, though not the highly screechy type, but as
previously stated, I have become somewhat enamoured with many musical genres
including trip hop and even “country” (the latter I would have scathingly
rejected wholesale, prior to my ecstatic seizures).   Blues
remain a particular favourite, but I flit, from Bach to Mahalia Jackson
to Dylan to Krauss to Miles Davis and wonder why I allowed music to play less of a central
role previously. 

I’m finding it hard to conjure up anything positive about ecstatic seizures
at this particular point in time.  I don’t feel the same way about them as when they were in full throttle.  I’m more or less released from my dangerous obsession but worry that something will upset the balance and I’m not 100% happy with Zebinix following a rather upsetting and new seizure experience a few
weeks ago.  The ecstatic seizures now occur very occasionally, but with even less intensity than when I last posted and I resist the urge to stroke trees and flowers and stare longingly and half-wittedly
at random birds and clouds.  I do marvel still, at the wonders of the universe but would no longer happily lay down my life for a cloud formation and the overwhelming bursts of ecstasy that turned me half
crazy.   CP seizure activity has also reduced but not gone away.  

The God question – despite everything including religious hallucinations, my
road to Damascus moments have left me unmoved; conversion was always going to
be  unlikely and my sneaking regard for Richard Dawkins and Karl Marx remain undiminished by seizure phenomena.

What else to report – I’ve been doing rather a lot of reading about brain
function and seizures and have tied myself up in knots.  Based on personal experience and an analysis of my symptoms in relation to what is known about the insular I’m wholly convinced of its involvement in ecstatic seizures and perhaps, overly worried about SUDEP.  Like everything this will pass.  The good news and perhaps the positive you were hoping for, is that I’m more interested in living than dying and the vast majority of suicidal ideation has abated with the ecstatic seizures.  I never doubted the two were intrinsically linked. 

Thinking of everyone; lot of love,

Victoria

PS I have read your latest blog post and as always hope for better news and a more stable environment for you.

The lay-out of this post is very random but perhaps because it's a cut and paste job to avoid losing.  The site seems a little unstable of late.

victor...

Victoria,

It's great to hear from you. I'm really sorry you're not feeling well. Neither am I, but if I didn't write, I'd die of loneliness. I am stuck in a toxic waste dump welfare motel from which I will be evicted tomorrow.

The ecstatic seizures are not worth the price. I haven't been having many. I've been having nocturnal TCs, Jacksonian seizures, and Hashem only knows what else. My 500mg Keppra Q6 hours is now supplemented by 1mg Klonopin Q8 hours. It's a rather unmanageable medication schedule and I'm still seizing, just not constantly.

The meds are making me really sick and weak as a kitten. I'm too sick to pack and too sick to make a reservation. I had to call the Police last night because I was too weak to walk to the station and ask them to write down names of places because I told them I couldn't remember them if they just told me.

I also told them I was too sick to pack and gave up half-way across the parking lot to the Staples to get packing boxes because I knew I was too weak to make it. They told me to call in the morning and they would get me a cab driver and let him/her know I needed help packing. I said I would tip appropriately. They were really nice about it.

I understand your reticence to accept your religious experiences as religion. Our upbringings and belief systems die hard. I was raised to be a faithful Atheist. I think the operative word here is Faith. It was not so hard to go from faithful Atheist to Faithful because I already had Faith.

I think my post is as rambling and disorganised as you think yours is. I, too, am having trouble on this site. The login isn't secure anymore and I hate to enter my password on a nonsecure connection. That's how people steal your money and your identity. I already get phone calls from porn lines with whom I supposedly have accounts. I wonder if that's why my phone bill is so high. I have to check that out.

I also fight the ecstatic seizures when I feel one coming on. They end in TCs for me now. It is terrible not to be able to fully enjoy a beautiful sunset or an extraordinary dawn or even a full moon. Or just the beauty of nature. There is one spot I go back to over and over again to take pictures of it in different light and with the changes brought by the seasons. I cannot linger too long.

Please drop a note when you can. I really miss hearing from you. I hope you try and read my blog. I feel like it is falling apart the same way I am. My search rankings are tanking and I don't know why. Someone is working very hard to make me disappear.

Oh well.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

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Hi Zealot,

I don't forget you, even when unable to communicate.   I've
started lots of posts over the last few months, but abandoned them feeling that
I have nothing useful or positive to say. Your constant struggle disturbs me as
there's nothing I can do except trust your resourcefulness pulls you
through.  I also hope you find people as well as words to combat the
isolation you feel.   

Victoria x

PS I tried to post this yesterday knowing you were due to move but there were technical problems with the site.

victor...

Victoria,

I means so much to know you care.

Please don't censor yourself. I have the same problem. If I threw out everything that was all effed up from the seizures, I wouldn't write a thing. So I just throw it out there and hope for the best.

It's better than not getting something out there. It pains me to look at what I used to write last year. But I can still write and for that I am grateful. The spelling and grammar may be trashed, it may be muddled and confused, but it's language and I can still do it.

I won't judge you for your mistakes. Please stop judging yourself.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

Lots of Love,

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Victoria,

I means so much to know you care.

Please don't censor yourself. I have the same problem. If I threw out everything that was all effed up from the seizures, I wouldn't write a thing. So I just throw it out there and hope for the best.

It's better than not getting something out there. It pains me to look at what I used to write last year. But I can still write and for that I am grateful. The spelling and grammar may be trashed, it may be muddled and confused, but it's language and I can still do it.

I won't judge you for your mistakes. Please stop judging yourself.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

Lots of Love,

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    Hello there , :).....(:

    What's this , it's coming to an end ? You are Kidding me ?  I do know one thing is for sure, I had made a "FEW" incredible friends. We've had our ups ands down throught the time of being here in this forum...I know I've kept my distance and have'nt been in touch much. Look at it my post is number 591 ... hmm !! that says something that we have in commen seizure wise and also known eachother very well over time. Let me tell you ,lastnight I took a walk for 3 miles and was considering the inevidable :( . I had been having a very hard time lately and very depressed. It takes alot to make me feel that way, I'm punching walls (keppra) trees, my hands  are in so much pain right now. I know I can consult with great friends such as my estatic friends. Z you would'nt think so ,but things have been tough and frustrating. I wish everyone the best, take care and God Bless!!!!

   Johnny !!!!!  

    I just wonder what tomorrow brings and move on and keep on smiling !! Somehow ...someway!!!

 

johnny

Hi Johnny,

I've also made a few attempts to respond to your post (as well as Zealot's) and not been able to do so until now.  It is always good to hear from you and your comments made me think about our first tentative posts over a year ago.  You are absolutely right...we do have much in common and we should continue to try and support each other when we can.  I've been on rather alot of those "walks" you talk about and have been feeling very confused of late even though "technically" my seizure situation is much better.     

But you're spot on about the importance of moving on....trying to keep positive.    

PS Can you get a punch bag & if you want to say...is it the drugs, the seizures or your family that are making life particularly difficult for you?   

victor...

Johnny,

Please don't damage your hands. You need them for your work. If you are getting Kepprage, ask your doc to help with your meds. You need off the Seroquel. I causes seizures. So does too much Keppra. That's what causes the Kepprage.

I had to start taking Klonopin. It is awful stuff. It makes me depressed. I makes me weak as a kitten and the Keppra was already making we weak. I can barely walk a few hundred feet. It is pretty bad.

If I were near your neuro I would string him up by his testicles assuming he has any. Seroquel is contra-indicated for anyone with any type of seizure disorder. The atypical antipsychotics are far worse drugs than their "bad old" precursors the plain old antipsychotics. The data are in, they are just being hidden. Get your neuro to get you off the Seroquel and get you onto something that will help you sleep without causing you more seizures.

The Klonopin should help you sleep. I hate Klonopin. I still am anxious and all I want to do is sleep. I can't do much else because between the Keppra and he Klonopin I am incapacitated. I can hardly think. If I didn't have a keyboard I couldn't write because I can barely write by hand. I've taken to signing my name with my left hand because have so much trouble with my right.

I feel like I'm not going to make it to 2011.

Pease don't be a stranger. I hope you read my blog. I have no idea if it makes any sense. I do know my search rankings are tanking. I think someone is playing games that are not quite legal. I don't know what to do about it.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

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zealot

Johnny,

Please don't damage your hands. You need them for your work. If you are getting Kepprage, ask your doc to help with your meds. You need off the Seroquel. I causes seizures. So does too much Keppra. That's what causes the Kepprage.

I had to start taking Klonopin. It is awful stuff. It makes me depressed. I makes me weak as a kitten and the Keppra was already making we weak. I can barely walk a few hundred feet. It is pretty bad.

If I were near your neuro I would string him up by his testicles assuming he has any. Seroquel is contra-indicated for anyone with any type of seizure disorder. The atypical antipsychotics are far worse drugs than their "bad old" precursors the plain old antipsychotics. The data are in, they are just being hidden. Get your neuro to get you off the Seroquel and get you onto something that will help you sleep without causing you more seizures.

The Klonopin should help you sleep. I hate Klonopin. I still am anxious and all I want to do is sleep. I can't do much else because between the Keppra and he Klonopin I am incapacitated. I can hardly think. If I didn't have a keyboard I couldn't write because I can barely write by hand. I've taken to signing my name with my left hand because have so much trouble with my right.

I feel like I'm not going to make it to 2011.

Pease don't be a stranger. I hope you read my blog. I have no idea if it makes any sense. I do know my search rankings are tanking. I think someone is playing games that are not quite legal. I don't know what to do about it.

Baruch Hashem. Hoshia na.

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Ecstatic seizures originate in the limbic system of the temporal lobes. The seizures are not so ecstatic if the amygdala is involved. The amygdala remembers fear. Those seizures can be nightmarish. Dreams also come from the limbic system which would explain the dreamy state. The loss of conscioness is caused by the electricity going to the frontal lobes bi-laterally(rat studies). The seizures don't always show up on EEGs. Antipsychotics won't put them under control. I have them and other types of seizures. Topamax put them under contriol for me. The trick is not to give in to them and find a good doctor who understands the limbic system. Know the difference between the seizures and reality!!! You can still be spiritual and under control, but a HEALTHY spiritual NOT a seizure induced spiritual pulling info out of your temporal lobe! If you don't like your doctor find a new one who knows about TLE and try to find the reality in between seizures.

Thanks..hope this helps, they're like being high on a drug....you WANT reality!!!

 Patti

 

Trish

Hi Trish,

I encountered the bifurcation between "positive and negative" values of visceral sensations versus the "ineluctable modality of the visible", which again sufferes the "good and bad" bifurcation, because of my uncanny ability to read people's aura years ago, and its receiving varying responses. I concluded my ability was simply another version of the "Clever Hans Effect", but now sometimes it's argued to be another manifestation of synesthesia.

A bundle of books on meditation follows the same bifurcation between "healthy and unhealthy" (good, bad) spiritual dimensions, but spiritual dimensions verified in reality being healthy and verified in non-reality being unhealthy? Seizures of epilepsy are also organic, and when the etiology is unknown, at times mistakenly labeled Psychogenic Non-Epileptic Seizures (PNES) and non-organic. Organic phenomena are much more connected with models or "reality" than are non-organic phenomena, which are only statistical numerical artifacts used in fashioning fictional constructs. My earlier post including much of this is:

In his listed four books, James H. Austin, Clinical Professor of Neurology, uses more simple English than the works in his references, which overlaps with many of the references listed here about ecstatic seizures of epilepsy. They add up to a little less than 2,000 pages, so the three on Kindle might give my Kindle another workout.

Previews of his books are available at amazon-dot-com, and books-dot-google, with books-dot-google list at:

http://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&tbo=1&q=James+H.+Aust...

My main pet peeve with his works is somewhat similar to what I experienced with people using intelligence tests, in that, when they know epilepsy is involved, a perfect score is something bad, but when the epilepsy is unknown, a perfect score is something great. Here, getting close to the destination state through, by, or with, epilepsy in ecstatic seizures is not without limits of having to be "fully documented by modern methods", are "so-called", are states of confusion and hallucinatory, and are different, instead of being true. It's as if since epilepsy is involved, a perfect intelligence score means I'm rather stupid and hopeless. 'The "classic core" must be reached by his chosen track, or the core is rotten,' may be taking it rather bluntly, but it seems at least indirectly inherent throughout, and the involved footnotes with only re-worded versions of the same opinion make for disappointing references.

His latest book (Selfless Insight) mentions the "God Helmet" as giving experiences that are artificial, more as if with my lack of knowledge, someone hits my thumb with a rock, the pain is genuine, and not artificial as it would be if they used a hammer. Temporal Lobe Epilepsy phenomena remain "controversial", but he does give references to the question "Does Meditation Increase the Frequency of Seizures?" In his books, at times "ecstatic" is made more concise, and other times, even more muddled. His book "Chase, chance, and creativity" takes the novelty inherent in serendipity and inverses the devaluation from rarity of cases, to a value from the rarity of the case. That raises the question if abnormal is, or is not, more valuable/enlightening than normal when TLE is experienced.

More about Persinger's God Helmet showing promise in treating conditions without pharmacological treatments is at:
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/153683709032066...

In use in complex partial epileptic like experiences with synchronization is at:
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/153683709032066...

I'm still looking for more miracles./////////

Many models reject the statement "The seizures are not so ecstatic if the amygdala is involved." In many models of reality, the notion of the "rational" often create "ethers" that don't exist to be verified by careful observation. This often leads to an earlier definition of "hylephobia":

http://books.google.com/books?id=xoS3AAAAIAAJ&dq=neurologica...

Abstracts of more recent articles on Ecstatic Seizures of Epilepsy are at:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W...

http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v10/n1/abs/nrn2555.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14698700

A model involving the left and right amygdala is at: http://shaktitechnology.com/shiva/God%20Helmet/koren_princip...

Tadzio

3Hours...

 I spent a long time undiagnosed. My reaction to the seizures is what affected my spirtuality. The seizures are still bullshit, but they put you at a level where you want to learn. I did most of my learning in between seizures. I really don't want a discussion on spirituality, especially dealing with this type of siezure. There isn't enough information on them and when there is it's all about analyzing the seizures.

 It's the only seizure type that get's analyzed.  Confusing? I wish reseachers would keep it simple and keep to the physical seizure. Everyone is different and everyone is going to have different seizures. There are people who have a tough time getting a diagnose or they don't go for help because they think they're crazy. It's pretty sad when you have to do your own research to figure out how it works.  

 Tadzio: There is nothing you can tell me about these seizures. I ran the gammet.  I had every type of CP. I was undiagnosed from 1978 to 1994. After 1994, I was on and off my medication because I'm thick headed. Finally in 2005 topamax put everything under control!!!!

Trish

Trish,

You are lucky you finally got diagnosed and under control.

I have been undiagnosed since infancy.  I've had just about every kind of seizure imaginable.  I had unnecessary surgery to correct a strabismus that was neurological, not ocular.  The eye exercises helped some, but the surgery left me scarred and seeing double to this day.

They thought I had myaesthenia gravis.  When that was negative the money grubbing folks at Columbia Presbyterian did the unnecessary surgery in 1964.  Like I said, I still see double and I still walk into walls.

I finally got a VEEG at Montefiore hospital after I had a seizure while being examined by the neurologist at the clinic.  Even though I have expensive insurance and Medicare, I was relegated to the Medicaid clinic.  Huh?

They ignored the video evidence, the clinic docs exam, the electrodes came loose, and there was still epileptiform activity.  So they ruled it artifact and said that an inconclusive cock up was a conclusive rule out for epilepsy.  Huh.

After my latest round of abuse in New Jersey, I have a brand new dent in the middle of my forehead and a brand new diagnosis of epilepsy.  The Jewish Family Service Margate Vultures found a neurologist to try to take it away from me because they wanted this cash cow with 100% reimbursement to go to their AtlantiCare Clinics to bilk my Medicare and keep me chronically ill and dependent on them.

I balked.  So they dumped me to die, which I'm trying very hard not to do.

I have permanent brain damage from all of this and I can't even see straight lines as straight lines any more or squares as squares.  My world looks like a fun house mirror only it isn't any fun.

I'm sick and tired of being told I don't have epilepsy and that I have a "complicated psych condition."  No I don't.  I have epilepsy complicated by lack of treatment and environmental and phsyiological stressors.

You are right about the uber-analysis.  These guys need to stop playing psychological pocket pool.  They need to start practicing medicine and stop practicing bull sh*t.

I am sick and tired and disgusted.  I woud really like to let this forum RIP because the google search rankings on it are way too high.  These folks here rode our words to page one and then slammed the spam censor on us once they got there.

I'm thinking about starting another forum about these kinds of seizure, but before it reaches critical mass, will start a new one.  No one can find the old stuff anyway.

I just wanted to reply to you and then I'm going to follow my own advice to Tadzio and reply here no more.

All the best.

Baruch Hashem.  Hoshia na.

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zealot

Hello, everone.

I keep you in my prayers. I always worry when everyone goes silent.

I know why Andrea maBenzi stopped posting. Remember how ptotective her sons were of her? They were right about this being a dangerous site.

They have a much more recent history of terrible repression. We have been lulled into a false sense of security. This site is a honey pot. What I call a sticky trap. Just like fly paper or glue goo mouse traps.

This place and the ILAE are a bunch of pharmaceutical company shills. Look at the Board members.

It's the same all over. The press say nothing. It's all about money and greedy short term gain. I can't believe what I've discovered. It is so ugly I wish I hadn't.

Baruch Hashem. I pray for peace. Be well all of you.

Lots of Love,

Devorah Zealot Soodak http://psychout.typepad.com/blog/ the epileptic zealot is done for!

zealot

"hylephobia: An irrational fear of epilepsy. Some people fear having epilepsy
themselves, while others fear seeing a person having an epileptic attack."

From "An Excess of Phobias and Manias" by John G. Robertson (2003), page 103.

3Hours...

Tadzio,

Epileptologists are the greatest hylephobes of all. Perhaps giving everyone psych diagnoses is the newest way of avoiding liability and reducing malpractice insurance premiums.

There is a reason there are no psych med mal law suits. No lawyer will take one.

Devorah Zealot Soodak

zealot

Hi Zealot,

The photos you posted reminded me of some of the old motels I ended up in back in the late 1960's and the 1970's, except back then the buildings were a few decades younger and I was in much better physical condition. I was lucky enough not to win the Reverend Jim Jones Lottery off the streets to permanent colony.

Medi-Cal (Medicaid) must think that 19 months without a tonic-clonic is too long, because they just had "eTar" reject anymore Keppra for me when I made my walk to the pharmacy. The pharmacy wouldn't answer questions over the phone about whether if my refill was ready, they wouldn't consider refilling a prescription until two days before the bottle was empty, so I made the long walk just to be told no more Keppra. They told me I had to have an official State container for any tablets for 5 day periods if an "appeal" was accepted for consideration.

I don't know if the pharmacy is full of crap and just trying to push cheap Keppra substitutes (which they haven't otherwise offered either), or the State just makes fickle decisions whenever they want to lose people on Medicaid.

Have you been following all the news stories on Alzheimer's? It is as if all babby-boomers are going to be labeled with Alzheimer's so as to prevent medical spending on more immediate and critical/expensive health problems in the short-term. Then it will be like the old movie "Abandon Ship!" (1957), with Tyrone Power jettisoning the old and less healthy people to cover the challenges in the long-term.

I posted a forum on epilepsy-dot-com about refills, titled "Been TARRED with an AED and eTAR???" and the ADA, but no responses so far. "Binding Arbitration" probably makes the ADA another name-only law. Why accept life-boat ethics??? Maybe faith healers are right, because Medicaid is definitely wrong as masquerading as complete health care with only the last few pieces not butchered off remaining.

Feeling ecstatic with partials seizures of epilepsy must mean I'm in excellent health!

Lots of Love,

Tadzio

3Hours...

http://psychout.typepad.com/blog/ the Zealot is in trouble!

Tadzio,

I walked four miles round trip to the pharmacy for Fekkra, generic Keppra. I was frantically on the phone trying to get a new scrip with the higher dosage phoned in, but as I only have enough for my 00:00 dose and half of my 06:00 doses, I need to pay now, pray later. Alas, no generic Fekkra in stock. I limped, almost fell, way aggravated the already inflamed carpal tunnel nerve in my cane hand (right) for a promise of inaffordably expensive generic Fekkra Keppra.

I will have terrible seizures this morning. I pray that I am able to make it to the pharmacy.

I signed the complaint for the assault today. I pray that I am alive by mid-October for the Court date.

If I make it, I'll call the Feds tomorrow. The Atlantic Jewish Family Service Margate Vultures broke the law. I bet they get Federal funding. I know for a fact that they get funding from New Jersey Division of Mental Health Services, but I don't have a warm fuzzy about going to State Prosecutors in Atlantic County.

These people should remember what happened to Meyer Lansky.

Baruch Hashem. By His Word everything is created.

Lots of Love,

Devorah Zealot Soodak

zealot

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Tadzio,

It's great to hear from you, but terrible to hear such bad news. What you describe with your Keppra is an example of the following:

  • Condition Diagnosed
  • Treatment Prescribed
  • Condition Remits
  • Remission taken as evidence that Original Condition never existed
  • Go home, if you have one, and die quietly. Just don't do it here.

Jewish Family Services of Atlantic County did tell the slum lords who own the Taffy Motel Absecon NJ Toxic Waste Dump code violation hell that they would no longer honor their contract to pay for the room. This is the first time they ever told me they would take action on my case and actually did so in a timely fashion with "positive" results.

I will complete my post on this when I am able. The Taffy Motel slum lords have been harrassing me. I was physically assaulted by the woman two doors down from me, I am guessing at their behest. I had to overcome my considerable fear to call 911.

I filed the police report and was taken to the Mainland Campus of AtlantiCare Hospital in Pamona NJ. I received much better treatment this time, with the exception of a nurse who admonished me "you'd better not be faking a seizure."

The Police and EMTs/Paramedics here are quite good. Absecon is a beautiful, old town with families who have been here for generations. The problem here as in the rest of Atlantic County is the eyesore across the bay known as Atlantic City, which is sucking the life's blood out of the surrounding areas.

The President of the JFS Atlantic Board of Directors is Eric Wood. He also sits on the Board of AtlantiCare. He is an attorney who specialises in defense of hospitals and health care professionals in litigation for little things like Medical Malpractice, Wrongful Death, Negligence, etc.

Jewish Family Service are also the only providers of Social Services in Atlantic County New Jersey. I have no where to turn having been forced to terminate my relationship with the Margate Vampires who sought to have me illegally evicted from these squalid, toxic premises.

My injuries were evaluated by a hospital with a De Facto Conflict of Interest. The whole thing is a conflict of interest. they are the only provider of Social Services so you do business with them on their terms or not at all.

They and their friends control the referral process and the medicaid mills and entitlement ripoff leeches who suck more bllod out of the bodies JFS provide to their friends or providers chosen for other unsavory reasons.

I am in so much trouble. After six weeks I still lack ID and the means to obtain it. I have literally been placed in harms way by these people who pretend to be Jews.

The Jewish conception of Charity is this: One is to leave a portion of one's fields unharvested so that the less furtunate may come and glean for themselves.

That is from the Good Book. My head hurts too much to quote Chapter and Verse. This is all I have been asking for. Why will the "good Jews" of JFS Atlantic not provide me with the means to help myself?

JFS Atlantic are not a charity. Someone needs to open their books and conduct an official investigation.

We are the Chosen People. Hashem, G-d, gave the Law to us. That makes us accountable to higher standards. We must follow the Law. We cannot even attempt to use ignorance as an excuse.

Baruch Hashem. He will judge us all.

Devorah Zealot Soodak

zealot

Hello, Everyone.

I am beside myself with grief. I just got off the phone with my brother-in-law, whom I have known since he was 11. That's forty years.

He would rather blame me for my predicament than accept the fact that people have treated me so badly. I told him worse stories about things I'd seen happen to other people. He would rather blame me for my problems than accept the fact that other people can behave so badly.

My sister won't talk to me at all.

This is the crux of the problem. People find it easier to blame the victims than to believe that such evil exists.

Please, someone help me. I don't want to die like this.

Baruch Hashem. What have we done. I pray, but know not for what. For His Light.

Devorah Zealot Soodak http://psychout.typepad.com/blog/

zealot

Hi Zealot,

One of the best things about the migraines I started to develop in the last couple years of my university, is that they took away most of the stigma glued to the secondary effects of epilepsy. Instead of the fat-headed hypothecating blow-guts assigning the slightest neurological phenomena to the vast array of phenomena of the psychiatric with epilepsy, (whether they heard the blue-sky, the wrong Zodiac sign, the clouds, the lack of stress or too much stress, etc. is known to cause that with "those epileptics"), I could then retort that "it's just a migraine Dr. von Munchausen de Prokecye, not the transubstantiation of my ectoplasmic reticulum polarized aura in the Kirlian photograph capturing my soul with the center of the universe shattering headache with the MBPS error code 'escape the quack quickly'".

I previously cited a guidebook on opening a neurological practice, and the book recommended refusing Medicaid patients, discouraging Medicare patients, and selecting patients for convenience and profitability (it was worded much more diplomatically, except the Medicaid part). Such guidelines are counter to guidelines involving most State and Federal funding, but such things and ideal daydreams are held to have to be dumped for advanced quality practice viability by the book (i.e. ergo, let the bottom low quality handle the low quality (this was like Medicaid dentistry; a dentist refused my low-paying Medicaid, but he boasted about his charity work outside the USA, and that his non-high-paying quality work wasn't needed in the USA (just the high-paying was needed in the USA), because people could rely on Medicaid dentists in the USA if they couldn't make the high-payments)).

Levetiracetam includes the warning to make contact right away with the prescribing doctor, especially with new, worse, or worrying symptoms including: new or worse depression, new or worse anxiety, feeling agitated or restless, panic attacks, trouble sleeping or insomnia, new or worse irritability, acting aggressive, being angry, acting on dangerous impulses, an extreme increase in activity and talking, and/or other unusual changes in behavior or mood. Including other AEDs, while I only had a painless migraine, when the Dr. and clinic refused services, with only "go somewhere else advice with the ER and epilepsy", over the results of their actions and my disability, I sought legal relief under the ADA since the clinic funding included State and Federal funding. Side effects of AEDs are also to be reported to the FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088. http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/HowToReport/ucm053091.htm

As a student studying the MMPI at Mental Health Clinics, I believe it is best to avoid leaving the services of neurology and other health services for analogs like E. Fuller Torrey's covenants of witchcraft through Mental Health Services. Ways to avoid the Dr. Daneekas' Catch-22 point gathering for his retirement/vacation plans is with the book at: http://books.google.com/books?id=nEPw3WvJlGAC&printsec=front...
I like the sentence: "They are not the same, and they require entirely different treatment approaches." (Torrey even tried to pick up a few points here!). BEING SEDUCED BY THE STORY, about incompetent physicians parroting mistakes, pages 43-47. Such professionals aren't per se evil, they could be just stupid.

Lots of Love,

Tadzio

3Hours...

Tadzio,

I do not care whether these people are just stupid, malicious, or both. The net effect is the same.

Read my post that got spam slammed for the google search for insurance codes. It is even more frightening because the insistence on the use of non epileptic seizure codes actually results in lower rates of reimbursement! If they get paid less, why would they diagnose me with seizures nec when I have a dx of epilepsy from the state of New Jersey?

The whole thing defies belief, which is why no one will believe Devorah/Zealot the Cassandra of Hellgate! Not even her own family. "I refuse to accept…" is what my brother in law said to me. He went as far to tell me that the mistreatment was justified because of his mistaken assumptions about how I spoke to my doctors. He would not be dissuaded from his delusioons by evidence to the contrary.

I get migraines too. They have been used to mistreat me as well. NYC EMT: Oh, so you have a headache? as he practically pushed me and my cane down the stairs. They were too lazy to carry the gurny.

Baruch Hashem. He will judge. I will pray.

Devorah Zealot Soodak

zealot

Tadzio,

I'm sorry to bump you from #1, but I'm pissed. All of this is about money.

I had a seizure (several, in fact) while being examined by a neurologist. He acknowleged this fact. That is why I was admitted to the Epi Lab on an expedited basis.

Once in the lab, they augmented the technical errors by ignoring the video evidence and ruling out the visible epileptiform activity as artifact. The likelihood of an artifact matching a clearly defined Epileptic Event is about the same as of a monkey typing Hamlet.

This "lack" of a conclusive diagnosis was then construed to be a rule out for a positive diagnosis of Epilepsy. These people must be Schizophrenic, because this is seriously disordered thinking.

The Epilepsy Thought Police all have Thought Disorders!

Baruch Hashem. May He save us from ourselves.

Lots of Love,

Devorah Zealot Soodak

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oops…

RingMaster and epi-helpless: Please finish potty training the nasty spam trap! I got spam slammed.

Read it and weep: http://psychout.typepad.com/blog/2010/09/http_www_google_com...

My brains feel like they are going to blow themselves out! I can't take this much pain anymore!

Baruch Hashem. May He take me.

Devorah Zealot Soodak

P.S. To the toxic do-gooders out there, don't even think it! I am allowed to wail in agony. And I am
allowed to want to be with Him.
P.P.S. Now the link to my post got trapped. I got the captcha gotcha. White list my domain name already! Do you people have double digit IQs? No? So, you are censoring us then!
P.P.P.S. I just edited and gotcha captch! When will the nasty trap be potty trained? I did not change the link! I woke up with chest pains and shortness of breath after two hours of sleep. I lost an hour or so during which period, I'm pretty sure I seized. I can't see straight! You don't even use the easy captcha gotchas. These are hard.

zealot

If you are having trouble with posting, please follow the instructions using the captcha and it will work fine. If it doesn't take the post please edit it or don't post it here. It seems to be working for many others. I understand how frustrating dealing with seizures can be. Let's please all be polite and respectful to others.

Epi_help

epi_help

epi-help,

If you bothered to read what I said, I did not get the captcha gotcha. It decided the post was spam. You need to white list my domain http://psychout.typepad.com/ You know I am not a spammer.

As for telling me to edit my posts, I have been noticing some patterns. The words insurance and employment will not get past the spam trap. These are important issues for people with disabilities. I happened to provide some important info in that post.

As for respect, telling me to edit a post like that is abhorrent. This is the USA. You have confirmed my contention that the spam trap is a censorship device and not a spam filter.

Epilepsy.com are the Thought Police!

Baruch Hashem. What have we become.

Devorah Zealot Soodak

P.S. Follow the link to the blog or the post and look at the screen shot. A picture is worth a thousand words.
P.P.S. You may understand how frustrating seizures can be, but you obviously haave no notion of how frustrating not receiving medical care can be. How about some help instead of admonishments and censorship?
P.P.P.S. I noticed you said many others. Not most. That means there are as many for whom the censor trap is not working. I said this before. Censorship is bad PR!

zealot

Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for the best word for "the pervasive fear that a sizable number people without epilepsy feel when they are in presence of someone that they know of, or strongly suspect of, having epilepsy."

The most frequent, but flawed, word is "hylephobia". The flaw is also revealing about a major flaw in neuropsychiatry, making it the non-scientific bastard child of the science of neurology and the pseudo-science of psychiatry. I got the clue from the Satyricon, and its overlap with Caligula's ecstatic Limbic seizures from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, with all the bad press about Caligula instilling fear with his alleged inter-ictal behaviour after the joy. Rimbaud is cited as taking a similar path in "Voyelles" with mystical visions clued along morbus sacer.

A major branch of mistaken citations seem to be sourced to: http://books.google.com/books?id=xoS3AAAAIAAJ&dq=neurologica...

"...Its analogue we may call hylephobia, or morbid fear of materialism, also a very modern distemper, which afflicts, now and then, a philosopher with a horror of contact with the fresh facts of science so necessary to his survival in the world of modern thought, and impels him to try to purge every element of matter from facts he cannot escape. Hylephobia, however, is now often regarded as a sacred madness, as epilepsy used to be. It befalls only the good; and the richer and fairer the world of sense, and the more violent the phobia against it, the more surpassingly rich and fair and real must the purely subjective, rational, ideal world appear. All the wisdom of scientific psychology melted in this author's [Dr. Borden Parker Bowne's] crucible is but slag and dross,...."

So what happens when an overly stressed neurologist encounters the neurological equivalent to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? They simply display their intense hylephobia when rational certainty eludes them, and hide every challenge in a subjective fog masking the thin air of pseudo-science, with the fog presently labeled neuropsychiatry.

They didn't have Keppra in Caligula's day, did they? Laugh Out Loud!

Lots of Love,

Tadzio

3Hours...

Tadzio,

Brilliant! My brain dysfunction has prevented me froom setting up guest posting privileges for you on my blog. If I can ever think without getting excruciating headaches, I will make it happen.

There is a reason for all this fuzzy logic. It has nothing to do with fear. It has everything to do with materialism. Follow the money.

Please google the seizure diagnostic insurance codes. I believe what you will find there will help answer this question, but raise some new, more disturbing ones.

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I had another bad night. I am too nauseated from the auras to eat. I am all beat up from the convulsions. I had nightmares. Deeply disturbing nightmares.

Baruch Hashem, I slept a little and woke up this morning!

Lots of Love,

Devorah Zealot Soodak

P.S. Tadzio, there is a dangerous new sub-species known as Epileptologists. One would think that they would have a vested interest in diagnosing patients with Epilepsy, especially considering the fact that insurance pay outs are greater for the Epileptic Seizure codes than the NOS, NEC, or NES codes.

I really am too sick to take on a new Google project. This should be right up your alley.

P.P.S. Don't know why that last one posted twice.

P.P.P.S. …Now I forgot…

P.P.P.P.S. …I justed remembered… Heisenberg's Kitticus Domesticus. An Epileptologist, overworked or otherwise, would not understand these concepts even if you bashed his brains in with a giant Q. Or a pool cue. Or any kind of queue.

P.P.P.P.P.S. Rodolfo Llinas is going around trying to claim credit for the work of Arthur Iberall. Ibby explained to me when I was 17 years old that the relationship of the mind to the brain was analogous to the relationship of the electrical flux to a car engine. He did not need too explain electrical flux to me.

That type of relationship is a quantum thing. These guys don't want to get it so it is moot whether or not they have the capability.

zealot

Hi, Everyone,

I'm in trouble. I'm backing down off the Keppra. It helps prevent TCs, but increases my other szs. I believe this is the source of the Kepprage.

Here is the link to my latest post:

http://psychout.typepad.com/blog/2010/09/employment-opportun...

Baruch Hashem, may I be able to make another. I will keep you all in my prayers.

Lots of Love,

Devorah Zealot Soodak

P.S. I am a logged in user and you just spam trapped me for a link to my blog! You didn't spam trap the link to happy tree friends! What is wrong with you? You know me. You know I am not a spammer! Stop this! Epilepsy.com are the Thought Police!
P.P.S. Just tell the stupid trap that the domain name psychout.typepad.com is safe and stop flagging me. If you can't figure out how to do that, pay the professionals at six apart who host my blog to show you how to do it. Please. I have a bad enough headache already.

zealot

peace R.C.

PSSSSSSSSSTTTTT! SOMEONES LISTENING! 

Apologies for posting at the top I have NEVER done that before and wish this site would eliminate the choice actually! 

I see you folks are still mixing it up in here lol! MY APOLIGY I have not peeked in a little while although I read the forum almost daily! 

There is enough maxed out brain cells just here, to get you folks either admitted to, or scholarships to, the best psych colleges in the country NO JOKE! but still funny!

I tried saving some of those links to blogs and thanks it will make fine reading when I am in a no sleep stage of postictal aura wavy mode!

I am strangely enough "normal" at the moment? wow! 

I should have brought my feelings over the past few months here first to you all ? I did in chat for about 10 days WOW and whole new appreciation for so many others feelings.

Truly a whole new type of aura ,partial, and then after "short" g-mals (something I have NEVER HAD) a whole new class of postictal aura almost horror ? and med change at the same time cold sweats partial hallucinations but more hearing ,taste, than visual not paranoid but that heavy feeling of not quite being sure what could be there if you went somewhere? or just jumped up and rushed to do something?

Had a full seizure in public right down town wow! did the e.r. thing and they sent me home in a taxi before my daughters bus came home and no one knew but me lol wow scary. 

got hurt real bad by hitting face on this desk while going to sleep in full aura floating above myself in a dream and man oh man it felt great until I awoke on the floor about 5 a.m. lol ooops postictal numb left side drooping eye ,jaw, lip, hand,arm, leg ,same feelings of a stroke have been happening over about 4 Mo's 

Looks very bad on paper but many of you have done it I'm sure lol all my ramblings seem to fit so well I do not feel guilty for saying them!

Very heavy reading here though and I can always appreciate any one that can express this many "feeling" and still make some sense of it! thanks folks and I hope even with all this stuff and meds in our lives you folks are finding some sense of peace! in yourselves!Rick

"IT'S NOT THE CRAZY PEOPLE YOU WORRY ABOUT------IT'S THE ONES THAT DON'T KNOW IT" R.C. 

 

 

wichit...

R.C.,

No apologies necessary. This forum is rather tangled. We make the effort to reply directly to each other's posts, but the format here is not condusive to that. One of us eventually caves and posts "up top."

We all understand far too well the joys of post-ictal torpor. I, too, experience the joy of watching myself seize from outside of my own body. That is the result of something known as a temporal-parietal dysjunction. It's the same thing people talk about in NDEs. Maybe szs are NDEs. Hmmmmm…

I am in a pre-peri-post ictal nonsomnolent state. My head hurts too much to think. I am sporting some lovely new osteomas from having bonked my head, Hashem only knows how. I don't even remember an aura or being near any hard surface. If I have the slightest inkling, I get myself into the safest position possible.

I am in excruciating pain, but dare not call for help. The last time I went to an ER for szs, they shoved me in psych, took my meds, told me I wasn't szing and shut the door to the room they shoved me in. They finally moved me to the med ER and instead of giving me IV fluids with Loarazepam or a seaparate Lorazepam drip, which is the proper thing to do, but requires more expertise, they gave me three shots of Lorazepam IV push. This is not good because you don't get stable blood levels. SO i was basically comatose for 12 to 16 hours and dehydrated and probablt hypoglycemic. I told them to give me normal G5.

When I was in trouble the next morning, the response was: But you were fine when you came in. Duh! And after 16 hours comatose with no fluids, I wasn't! I left AMA after they wouldn't let me take my meds Q6 hours like I needed to.

I don't think a University in the world would touch me, but thanks for the compliment. Thanks for looking at the blog. It can be a tough read. Some of it is harrowing and some of it is heavy duty geek. It's all me and all true. I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried.

It's funny. I can't write blog posts right now, but replying to a human being is different. It is more conversation than writing, so I can pick out one letter at a time if I'm "talking" to someone. If it's writing and organizing… my head hurts just thinking about it.

I'm stuck alone in a moldy motel room that is making me extremely ill, havinf multiple szs every day, and my JFS case mismanager thinks it's all OK. He won't get me off the no fill black list, tells me how much he's done for me, and I'm praying that I don't die alone in this motel room. He says he found me two apartments. The fact that I can't afford either one of them is meaningless to him. I could find a million apartments I can't afford. Some nice houses, too. Is he an idiot, or a nasty SOB, or both? I can't figure it out! Help like his has been much worse than no help at all.

I need to sleep. The pain is too much to take. I worry that a headache this bad for this long is a sign of serious trouble. Imve got "pins and needles" prickling all over. I'm scared and there's no one I can call for help.

I don't know how much more punishment my body can take. I'm also getting weird taste, smell, auditory, and some strage flashy visual aura stuff. I just don't want to end my life as a moron.

Baruch Hashem. May He show me the Light.

Devorah Zealot Soodak

zealot

peace R.C.   SHEW  no the other rambling may be a hard read for some!

  BUT THAT was a hard read for anyone!

 You will never pass as a moron ! take some sort of peace in that!

 The stuuff your brain just let out about your conditions  etc. is what i picked up out of that blog posting last night !

  I will return and understand how thankful for my limited surroundings i am today.

  Me and my daughter can reach out to you and hold your hand and heart today be careful please Rick wichita kansas

wichit...

Rick,

Thank you. G-d Bless you and your family. It is good to know that people care.

Baruch Hashem. He answers our prayers.

Devorah Zealot Soodak

P.S. It is extremely difficult, but I managed some sleep and a couple of new posts. It is literally publish or perish.

http://psychout.typepad.com/blog/
http://psychout.typepad.com/

P.P.S. New Edit: I just remembered who you are! I am so glad you and your wonderful daughter are OK. I often wondered how you were doing. He really does answer our prayers.

zealot

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