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tiff_25
tiff_25

Anyone experience memory loss?

I have read a lot of stories on here, and havent seen anyone mention having memory loss since being diagnosed with epilepsy. I feel as though my memory has become much worse since being diagnosed in Jan 2009. I have been on Lamictal/Lamotigrine since, increased my dosage three times and am currently looking into switching to Keppra, Topamax, or Tegrotal. I am still having seizures, including multiple in a day.

 

If there is anyone out there that has experienced memory loss, please share your story. Did any particular medicine help/hurt memory loss for you? I know there are a lot of side effects to all medicines and different people react differently to each one, however I have yet to hear about memory loss, so I am rather curious. Thanks!

By tiff_25 at Sun, 08/02/2009 - 12:17pm | 2864 views | 337 comments

Recent Comments on this Discussion

Memory loss? evreryday...especially on Topomax -it gets worse too...Ive been on almost 8 years. I am suprised I can remember my own name at times

 

prince...

Memory loss? evreryday...especially on Topomax -it gets worse too...Ive been on almost 8 years. I am suprised I can remember my own name at times

 

prince...

hi tiff, i didnt see the new post for today. i scanned the whole list. curious?

teache...

Hey--- to everyone---

I would have to def. agree with you about experiences with memory loss, as well as loss in concentration and focus.  The way I used to do simple tasks has completely changed over the years since my diagnosis (I was diagnosed at 19).  Since my one and only gran mal seizure (the one at 19), I have dealt with migraines, partial-complex seizures and other symptoms, but I have gone through the gamut of anti-seizure meds and now have pretty decent (so far so good--knock on wood) of 5-6 meds that I take daily.  I have taken Keppra, Lamital,Tegetol and now I am on Zonegran, Topamax (low dose), Calan, Pristiq and Clonazepam.  In addition to the meds., I have the VNS (Vagal Nerve Stimulator) device, which I had implanted three years ago. That device has done wonders for me becasue it sends period stimulation to my brain and I have a magnet that I can swipe over the device whenever I feel any symptom coming on, to slow or stop it.  As far as memory, the only thing I can do is leave reminders for myself everywhere and my loved ones understand that I need to do this for myself.  At work I carry around a notebook to write down whatever I need to remember and I do the same at home (I even put reminders in my phone.) Most of the time I explain to others that hey, sometimes I need to do things one step at a time so that I can keep focused, organized and most of all remember what I need to.  Often I will ask people around me, could you remind me about that party or that get together, or that book, etc. because I WILL forget the details, but I just need to do it.  Brain teasers, puzzles, trivia games also help keep my mind working too.  And I am ALWAYs keeping my doctor updated about these side effects of my meds. so that we can work about a med. mixture that is most effective.

Good Luck, Denise

NISEE9882

I have had epilepsy for 9 years now.  My memory is shot...just when it was recovering and I was getting better I had another 2 seizures.  Back to the drawing board.  It is nice if you want to call it that that other people also suffer from memory loss.  I thought it was just me.  I am on Tegretol 4 tablets twice a day and 500ml 3 times a day of dialantin.  I understand what everyone is experiencing sometimes you just can't remember things from your past which is very upsetting.  I think it is just part of having epilepsy unfortunatly. 

mairig...

Hi,
OMG! I totally understand. I was just recently diagnosed in August but I have had milder symptoms/auras over the years, knew there was something wrong but I just never knew what the heck it was until I ended up in hospital a few times. I was always told my seizures were anxiety. I knew I had something wrong with my brain but I just couldn't get someone to look into it for me. After I have the seizures I feel like I have amnesia and it scares me because I can't speak well or recall fast enough and I still can't. Well i can speak but sometimes it is hard to use words to make a statement and when typing messages I sometimes leave words out or spell them wrong. I have to proof read and check things all the time. I can't remember instructions very well either and I get down on myself for that because I don't want others to think I am an idiot. Some people are very ignorant. That's when the story HAS to be told. I HAVE to write everything down. Usually I just give in and say, yeah I am stunned rather than get into the big epilepsy story and sometimes I cry about it because people might say, I just told you, don't you remember, go write it down so you don't forget. That really upsets me. I used to be very bright and good with remembering information, dates, names, problem solving now I am horrible at it and i told me husband he has to have patience with me because i am really having trouble. He reminds me of events when to take meds and anything I need to remember. Just yesterday a lady from my past came up to me and said hello how are you doing??? Don't have a clue who she is...another time a lady saw me and came over to have a chat. My husband knew I worked with her and said that's (her name)you used to work with her. so I agreed and said i wonder what she worked at...??? It's horrible but just gotta stay positive and go with the flow. Take care!

Electr...

When I was on Topamax I had such horrible memory loss as well as anxiety attacks. I only stayed on this drug for a month but it was enough to lose all I learned in a medical billing class as well as some other thing I had known for over 20 years.I got lost once when I was on the freeway.Well,not really lost but I couldn't remember why I was on it in the first place.But you also have to keep in mind that all drugs affect people differently.

vikesfan
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Mathem...

Hi Tiff_25!
Since having Grand Mal seizures (a few months ago) I feel the same way. I always had auras due to having monthly migraines or maybe not. Not sure anymore. Maybe they were some type of seizures! But lately my memory is crappy and the auras are getting strange. I am usually pretty sharp but lately I feel stupid. I feel like an old woman as I CAN remember people and events in the PAST but current or recent events are not easy to remember. For example people tell me I did something (especially at work and athome) and I fight with them saying your crack I can't remember doing that...lol My memory is really bad after a seizure and it takes me a week or so to get back to semi-normal or even have a sensible conversation without saying "I don't know" to all questions. It's frustrating because I don't want to seem hard to get along with because I love people and enjoy helping others but I feel I don't know what I am at and sometimes my concentration is horrible and then I get upset because I am not up to par and am slow or something. I am taking Lamotrigne right now and have an appointment with my neurologist soon so I will have a deep conversation with him. Your not alone, believe me. Take Care! Hugs!

Electr...

I wish that I didn't have the memory loss but the older I get the worse it gets...and I'm only 32 years old.  It's really frustrating b/c I will be talking to an old classmate and they'll ask me if I remember when we did this or that and I just don't. There's really only a few things that have stuck in my head thru the years and its usually just peices of memories. I really hate it. Its soooo frustrating. I feel stupid to a whole lot and used to be able to remember stuff, I mean I could memorize anything!! Sometimes when I'm talkin with an old friend I'll just pretend that I remember... And I do say I don't know a whole lot too!! LOL My husband will tell me something I did and I have absolutely no idea what he's talking about then he gets mad and then I get mad... LOL

 

rebecc...

Hi tiff_25! It's strange to read your entry because I literally just posted an entry about my concern with memory loss & Lamotragine (http://my.epilepsy.com/discussion/995922) in the medication section of this forum. I have simple partial & complex partial seizures, mostly catamenial, & take lamotragine everyday (250mg BID). I've been on it for a while & I've started to notice that I just can't seem to keep anything straight as far as memory goes. I've always been slightly scatterbrained but I feel like it's gotten horribly worse since getting to my current dosage. I leave things everywhere, forget what someone told me almost minutes afterwards & have a hard time in school with remembering information. This has caused me a lot of frustration through such events like losing my wallet, losing my keys, leaving important information at home when i need it somewhere else, forgetting where i put stuff, telling people the same stories over and over again...and so forth. I know that everyone has trouble sometimes doing stuff like that but it's an everyday occurance for me that has not only frustrated me, but everyone else around me.

As far as helpful information, all I can say is that my current neurologist has told me that he is not directly familiar with such a side effect but I'm switching doctors due to being unsatisifed with that doctor. I'm interested to see what my new neurologist might be able to tell me about that as well as several other things.

Bottom line though is want you to know, your not alone & I completely understand how it feels. By the way, what seizures do you experience?

kattat...

Hello to all, yes I'm new here with posting, but not in reading. 

I have one of the severest forms of Epilepsy caused by "grey matter Hetertopias" (I was born with the condition) for 50 years now, from experience, memory loss is normal and can increase with age as well as the amount of siezures you have over the years but comes in various severities from minor to extreme, no two people are alike and will have varying degrees of short and long term memory issues caused by the label called "epilepsy", yes it is actually a general label applied to cover all forms of siezure.

Medication can sometimes increase the severity of memory loss but this seems not to affect all people in the same way, some may find the problems increasing, some may find no change, some may have no memory loss at all, I have found this during meeting people I have come to know at UK epilepsy association meetings/conferences over years and from personal experience.

I personally deal with my memory issues by adapting to it, it's taken me most of my life to learn to do this, my smartphone (a smart mobilephone or smart cellphone for you Americans) has a built in organiser function which is set to give audible reminders for appointments, I also have impotant notes I store in it daily to help me remember what other things I have to do, I use the calendar for that which displays the information daily on the home screen and can be set to give an audible reminder.

I have one tip for all who are stressed since they know their memory is acting up, DON'T worry, take every day at a time and as it comes, don't get stressed and especially DON'T worry, you can adapt to the condition should you put your mind to it, it's not easy I can tell you that but it can be sort of done, even now I still forget stupid things as well as do stupid things but I don't ever let it bother me.  I find that stress makes it worse just as stress can trigger more siezure episodes.

As I already said, I was born with epilepsy caused by grey matter Hetertopias which causes many multiple forms and types of siezures, I never let it stop me live my life, I may not be allowed to drive a car, I may have to be careful with everything I do, but I do not allow my condition to rule my life or dictate to me how I should live it. 

 

I find it hard to remember names, I find it hard now to do mental maths and arithmatic, but like many I found ways round that, a calculator.  I also find it hard to remember things from the past in any detail due to long term memory issues, I also have short term memory issues too.  I also found that doing simple memory exercises helps, as I call it "if you don't use it, you lose it"  carry on exercising the grey matter as it does help even if you forget it.

So for all who are worried and stressed, try not to be, there is hope for
those who try not to let it affect them and their life, just don't let it dictate how
you live your life or enjoy it, life is short enough.

And most importantly, you are not alone so don't feel isolated or stupid, most of us epileptics have memory issues and many don't even notice or even know.  You have to understand this too, there are ignorant people out there who do not understand Epilepsy, it's side effects or even how many forms of it there are, Epilepsy is just a label to define a group of conditions cause by a biochemical-electrical malfunction in the brain, it is due to a lack of general education most non-epileptics do not understand this, that is not your fault but theirs for being ignorant of the facts.

Like one person said "this person has epilepsy but doesn't do that", so what, every Epileptic is different, no two are alike no matter what anybody may claim, only a complete uneducated moron would class all Epileptics the same. In all my years, I still haven't met two who get the exact same symptoms or side effects, it varies in severity from person to person.

I hope that helps you all. :)

 

Ps, I have more info stored away in my grey matter somewhere, unfortunately I cannot access it currently, I know it's there but cannot remember all the details as they are vague, no doubt I'll get a memory flash later and I will remember, this happens a lot before it vanishes again.  If I remember, I'll try post back here with it. :)

 

 

 

Weegieman
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Mathem...

Hi, Weegieman. I used to have seizures and had surgery on my left temporal lobe. I have always had problems with my short term memory. I had to smile when I saw how you remember things. I do it the same way (on my computer and iPhone). I also find the "Sticky Notes" application on my computer useful.

Mike 

Mathem...
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Mathem...

Hi,

 Me Again.. When I saw your discription of your seizures and the  cause of them.. You and i have the same thing I think . An epilespy clinic Mincep clinic in Mpls. Minnesota. I saw the word heterotopias and gray matter and I was told I was born with it, i looked in my records from Mincep and there it was heterotpias and talk of nodules of gray matter are present  along the superolateral margin of the body of the left lateral ventricle..thats what it said in my report and it goes on but you get the idea.. i'll write another time.. Thank you for writing this i can't believ we might have the same kind..  I have grand mals since I was 9 yrs. old I am now 61.

 Would you mind telling me your meds. I'm on Lamictal the generic one and vimpat and phenobarbital. Thank you ,Bye now.. take care.. L.G.

Jeanie11

YES ! Many times like when we go out to eat, when I am told what I am having as a meal, I ask whether I'd eaten that.
I ask, "Did I like that ? "
Where did I eat that ? Who made that and when did that ?
I feel a bit of ADHD or whatever it is that makes me forget short term instructions.
I am told I have selective hearing and omit certain details of instruction.
I argue that I am performing required task yet My G/F disagrees with me constantly.
It's not that I'm not listening, It's what I perceive to be what it is I hear.
I try to read any kind of literature yet I cannot get past the few lines so I re-read the same passage and try to comprehend it at all.

woodye...

Hahaha! I have experienced what you are saying. My hubby usually cooks supper and after i ate it I said, what are we having for supper? Or I will go somewhere and I will wonder why i am going there. My hubby says...come on my little nut. He takes care of me thank the Lord above!

Electr...

Hm, I have petit mal and when I first had them I wouldn't remember what happened at the moment. It was just not being there in the moments of the seziure, I haven't experinced memory loss.

I-hate...

 I have experienced memory loss and I lost a lot of hair and there a white spots on my face but they aren't pimples because there is no head on them. I pinched one and it turned into a mole so no more pinching for me. I have had grand mals since I was 9 yrs. old.

 Can you answer a question for me if you don't mind ? What does a petite mal feel like or act ? I changed meds after 52 yrs. because I was having these feelings and I thought they were petite mals I was getting up to 5 a day sometimes please help me. I haven't talked to anyone about how they feel when one was coming on because I don't know anyone with this problem. I have talked to my doctor and he's very a  sympathetic Dr. but they don't truely understand only another person with the problem can understand.. Thank you, L.G.

Jeanie11

Hi Jeanie11.

To answer your question about "petite mal"  (absence siezures) from my own point of view. The symptoms and side effects can happen in many ways, complete blackouts with no knowledge of the past minute or few minutes are common, I find that sometimes I can do things automatically without being aware of doing it "The lights are on, but no one is home" type effect, sometimes I freeze like i'm daydreaming without any acknowledgement to someone speaking to me and sometimes also facial ticks and hand twitching or strange movements from limbs can appear from what I have been told.

In my kind of "absense siezure" time hasn't changed for me since the siezure first started till it's end, as an example, imagine someone standing in the corner of a room you are in, you remember them standing there and the next second they are gone, they are gone because they have walked out of the room but you don't notice or know that because you were in the middle of a blackout petite mal and only noticed they had suddenly vanished after the siezure had finished giving the impression to you that "he/she or they just vanished right in front of my eyes, I blinked and they were gone not to be seen anywhere in the room"

In my train of thought it's actually a temporary loss of conciousness in a way, you lose your ability to think, reason as well as your memory of that exact point in time, not before or after, just during that siezure, think of extremely short term general anesthetic but one that knocks you out in a millisecond and with a recovery time the same, it's so quick you don't know you were out.

When I have an absense siezure it is only because of circumstances like that I only know I have had one, otherwise unless someone tells me, then I am unfortunately unaware of it,  another obvious clue "why were you ignoring me?" type statement from someone you were with, that gives the clue especially if you know you weren't ignoring them but they think you were.

There are other strange siezures effects that can make you "feel all strange", give distorted "dream like" vision and distorted hearing, sensations that you are not in control or are trapped inside your own head and unable to make your body do as you want as it seems to have a mind of it's own, you could lose control of your motor functions, normal reasoning can go out the window, a strange disorientating "fuzziness" of thought and many other strange various things and combinations including "nothing makes sense to me", it can cause immense confusion, fright and panic actually, but usually only happens for seconds to many tens of seconds but feels like it was for far longer than it really was.

Those are only a few very brief rough descriptions of what that junior doc called "funny turns", many are far too hard to try and describe the sensation exactly. You won't know your having a classic blackout siezure unless someone told you what you were doing,  those others, well,  you sort of do, but what epilepsy category label they fall under, I am unsure of.

I hope that sort of helps you Jeanie11.

:)

 

 

 

Weegieman

Hello Weegieman,

 Thank you for answering my question.. I always wondered how a petit mal felt but there was no one to ask.. I found it interesting .. I wouldn't wish this illness or whatever they call it on anyone. i think I know what you meant , it's so hard to explain a seizure especially to someone who doesn't have any sort of seizures. Yours sounds kind of scarey to me yet mine would sound scarey to you. I don't know if I said but I have grand mals or tonic clonic  they call them now.. Thanks again I really appreciate your answering. Take care.. L.G.

Jeanie11

Thank goodness I am not the only one!

I have had epilepsy for 11 years and had my first seizure at age 37.  As a child psychologist, epilepsy was something I helped other people deal with....not myself.  Within 48 hours of my first tonic clonic seizure, I became aware that my very detailed memory was gone.  I have had numerous neurologists and am on 4 AEDs now: Lamictal, Vimpat, Keppra, and Trileptal.  There is not an AED that I have not tried.  I also have a Vegus Nerve Stimulator.  I no longer have tonic clonic seizures - so the meds are somewhat successful, however, I have approximately 40 -50 simple and complex partial seizures per month.  Changing meds has never helped to improve my memory - I have tried all them in many combinations.

All of the neurologists I have seen have told me that my memory is impaired by the ongoing simple and complex seizures and not the meds.  I have come to believe that.  Each day I go between feeling sorry for myself, anger, frustration, sadness, worrying about dementia, and then being too busy with my career and family to dwell on it.  And that is all in one day!

I have been trying to find ways to accommodate the situation.  I have not been successful.  I even had psychological testing done with the hope that it would result in a recommended course of action to assist.  No luck.  It seems that despite all of us having this problem with memory there are no professionals who have been able to help.!

I recently thought about using some sort of technology to keep track of all of my case notes that is small enough for me to carry around.  I can't carry my file cabinet around with me everywhere I go! Any suggestions?

Someone asked what petit mal seizures feel like.  They are now referred to as simple and complex partial.  The simple include a mild deja vu feeling along with a mild fuzzy feeling.  The complex partial are much more intense.  I cannot speak during them, I smell, see, and hear things that do not exist, smack my lips, and clench my fists. I feel them overtaking my brain and body like a strong wave rolling up on a beach and out again.  It is like I am in a dream but I am conscious. When I try to speak, I cannot describe what I have just experienced. I am conscious throughout it. If I am in a meeting, I have to stop and hope that someone else will start talking so I don't need to explain myself AGAIN. I am disoriented for about 10-20 minutes after the seizure that lasts around 3 minutes.

This is why the neurologists believe that my memory is gone. 

I do not remember any of the things that all of you have described.  In addition, I don't remember movies I saw a week ago, family vacations I was one within a month after, and clients I have seen within a week among other things.  I take detailed notes to trigger my memory (that works) and take pictures that are put into albums.  When I ask my husband what the point is in going on a trip at all, he always tells me that it is to enjoy it at the moment and to also give the memory to our children of being together.

If I could have anything back it would be my memory.  I would deal with the constant seizures if only I had that. Maybe we can all get some relief if research continues, and those around us are more understanding of the reality that it exists and we are not "making it up." 

Maria ...

Maria, I use my laptop and my iPhone. On my laptop, I use Microsoft Works Calendar for appointments, Sticky Notes for short (undated) reminders, and Microsoft Works Word Processor.

On my iPhone, I use my calendar and sometimes my voice recorder. As we know, doctors are very busy and you know that they need something to remember everything going on. I remember one of my doctors carried around a small digital recorder and would make voice notes.

Does any of this help?

Mathem...

I remember my mom saying something about me smacking my lips when I had a seizure. Feeling that I recall were feeling like things were up in the dark corners of the room looking down at me. As far as speaking, I felt like I knew what I wanted to say, but I couldn't get it out.

My best description of what a petty mal felt like was - Imagine being at home by yourself and it's night time. You look at the window to see an eerie-looking stranger peering through the window at you. That sudden feeling that you get is pretty much what you're (or at least I was) feeling when having a seizure. And it stays with you until the seizure goes away or it becomes so strong that you feel nothing.

Is that how it felt to others?

Mathem...

That's an even better description of my seizures than the one I gave!

Maria ...

I cant even recall most passwords of even this site !

I am often told that I am NOT LISTENING !

Gets me depressed at times.

woodye...

I am always changing my passwords! hahaha!

Electr...

That's why I have a list of all the names and passwords that I use (along with the name of the website) in a Word file on my computer.

Mathem...

Pretty intense, Maria

Your siezures sound like mine. Only now I  also seem to feel as if my writing is out of order. I look back at my journals and say that doesn't make alot of sense. 

Sometimes in the day I have an imbalance feeling, blurry a bit, and definitely a headache. This sounds more like a side effect but my husband says maybe it's a  new kind of seizure I'm having. The feelings go away and tylenol helps the headache.

After twenty years w epilepsy I feel I'd rather have memory loss than seizures. Yes, I feel stupid or embarrassed at times. But I never know when the seizures will come or how intense and this is scary.

Giving up your professional occupation is so dificult. Many don't understand why we can't just let it go and move on. We've worked hard so many years to be the best we can be and zap it's taken away.  I'm a teacher and want to continue to teach elementary students but this my be over and I just have to accept it. 

You're probably talented in other ways and  haven't taken that to heart. 

Hopefully it all works out and live happily  for now.

Lynda

teache...

If you are a child psychologist and can't remember your clients from the previous week, it might be time to retire from your particular position.  I know, that doesn't seem easy, but your patients deserve a doctor who remembers them.  In fact, it might be malpractice.  I'm only another patient, but this deserves some legal looking into.  There are may be other jobs that can use a person with your skills and education.  Good luck!

 

tcameron

Thank-you Lynda and tcameron for your comments.  I appreciate both of your input. 

No need to worry about malpractice, I recognized some time ago that my memory was affecting my ability to effectively work one-to-one in an ongoing primary role as therapist.  That is one of the largest aspects of the memory loss that has been so devasting.  I haven't worked in that role in some time. It was a choice I made on my own. 

I now work in a supportive role for teachers and do assessments in schools with preschool children who have special needs.  The need for memory is remediated by taking detailed notes for writing reports. I assess children on a short term basis and then follow up on the cases that others are working on. I am looking for some sort of technology that I can use to pull up my notes when I am in a classroom and a teacher asks me a question regarding a particular child.  None of the questions is so crucial that they need the answer immediately.  They understand that they may need to wait for me to get to my office to pull the file and review it before I answer them later in the day. 

I would like to be able to access my notes right in the classroom I am visiting.  But mostly, would like to REMEMBER them on the spot with no notes! When I read my notes it triggers my memory to accurately answer - but I can't pull up the memory without the cue.  And that includes movies, vacations, etc in addition to work.

As Lynda said, it is embarrassing.  I don't think I will ever adjust to losing that part of myself and my previous ability that no longer exists.

Lynda said that she would rather do away with the seizures. Of course I wish for that on a daily basis too.  Why can't we all just fix all of it?! Maybe someday a cure will be found and we can all live with memories and without seizures!

Good luck to both of you and thanks again for your comments!

Maria ...

Hi Maria,

As far as electronic technology, there are already memory boards, which are easier to carry than laptop computers, with Internet access.  The only problem:  You could forget where you placed it.  One source worth your consideration:  www.pubmed.org.  They have up-to-date information.  It's difficult to read, because a lot of it is in "doctor's lingo," but it is a good place to check out.

Another idea:  Perhaps they could insert some electronic device to your nervous system?  It's not that scary:  The VNS already exists!  I don't know if it has helped people recover their memory, but it might.  Then again, I'll bet it's being studied right now.  There are a lot of options already on the horizon in both electronic and medical technology.  Keep faith;  I believe things happen for a reason.  We can't see the big picture, but I'm sure these all fall together like a puzzle.  

Best regards,  T

tcameron

Hello Sue,

I had been on Dilantin for over 25 years and it seems that since I have been on Lamotrigine/Lamictal for the past 1 1/2 years, I seem to have a slight change of memory. I also had it while I was on Dilantin. Like I said it seems to be more prevalent. I am glad that I have "spell check" which has helped me, even writing this reply. I am a Civil Engineering Tech, but not a full pledged Engineer. The reason why is that quite often when I do calculations I have a tendency to draw a blank. So for me it would not be safe in putting a "stamp" on drawings. So when I do the calcs, I have another Engineer make sure they are correct.
I also seem to be using something and then have to back track, hopefully remember, where I put it. Last week I spent about an hour searching for masking tape. I finally found it on a table where, obviously, left it. I also went grocery shopping this past week and I forgot to load one item in the car. I remember 5 hours later when I went to use it. Again I had to back track and it was still at the store. The manager saw that I forgot and assumed that I would come back, it was a little embarrassing.
There is one more situation that I want to share. Last summer when I was in Boston for six months, I experienced, literally, double vision while driving on the freeway. Fortunately for me I was 2 miles from the Veterans hospital. They did a level and found out that I was OD-ing on Lamictal. As they say, you solve one problem and create other problems, how true.

Paul1954

I started developing seizures as a child and have been on medication most of my life (Dilantin was one). I have always had problems with memory. I'm also into Engineering. I have a degree in Electronics Engineering Technology and a degree in Design Technology. And I take advantage of my love for technology. I'm always using my computer's and iPhone's calendars to help me remember things. In my physics class, I wrote a program in my calculator for looking up formulas. I finished my final long before anybody else. I don't have any problems with math. As a matter of fact, I solved a physics problem in my Trig class and enjoyed doing it (never had Physics at that point). I also like to see if I can solve six-digit math problems in the head sometimes.

However, if somebody asks me to do something (and I don't make a note of it), I may forget about it in an hour or so. A couple of months back, I went to a fair. When I went to get in my vehicle, I couldn't find it. When riding around with the police officer, we found that I parked farther back than what I thought. If I had my iPhone at that time, I could have gone onto my map and dropped a pin on where I parked.

Mike 

Mathem...

Yes, and the worst part is no one really  believes me they think cause I have epilepsy I can lie my way out of anything or make stupid things up to get out of certain situations. My mom is the worst she doesnt believe me at all when it comes to memory loss about 60% of the time I'll forgot something that happened like 10 seconds and find myself going back and forth doing it over and over again until it actually sticks this is horrible in school cause I cant take notes sometimes it really affects my grades anyway you guys think I could prove to my mom that I am telling the truth? I could get into this for days

thepunch

Along with my seizures, my inability to drive, my almost total short term memory loss, I have been arressted on 3 different occasions.
During my "absence" type seizures I have wandered around stores for an hr only to "wake up" in jail, for public intoxication. Even though I don't drink or use drugs. On 2 other occasions while having an absence seizure I have tried on clothes or put items in my bag and leave the store, then I was arrested. I am 42 and have never stolen a thing in my life. Yet even with my doctors letters and copies of my medical record, I got the maximum punishment and my own lawyer thought I was making it up. He never even presented the DA with my medical info.

Krissy4

www.myspace.com/MySeizures

Krissy,
Just today, I was trying very hard to explain to this Police Officer, why I was disoriented & did NOT respond in time to his questions, the Officer says,,,
"DO I LOOK LIKE I WAS BORN YESTERDAY"?
And, the other Officer goes,,, "MY SISTER IS EPILEPTIC BUT SHE NEVER GETS DISORIENTED or have lost memory".

Now, How am I suppose to convince these Officer, who already made up their mind?

You see,,, YOU ARE NOT ALONE !!!
I have been in your shoes many, many times before.

When ever I get confused, disoriented, dizzy, lost my memory, act "weird" & did NOT simply answer in "time", I've been told "I'M FAKING IT".

While the "false-accusations & false-arrests" can be "HUMILIATING", I learned the hard way to cope with it.
I BELIEVE IT IS NOT MY FAULT NOR MY CHOICE TO LIVE WITH EPILEPSY or MEDICATIONS & SIDE EFFECTS. Therefore, I just have to make the most out of what ever I have to live with.

While I would be VERY pleased to EXPLAIN my unfortunate predicament when EVER my BRAIN is working right, I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION, that it's just NOT my OBLIGATION to convince a paranoid INSECURE society, CONSTANTLY scanning my life & presuming,,, "SHE/HE IS UP TO SOMETHING NO GOOD".

And if there's a NEED to fight for my rights in due process of the court system, I've Neurologists, Prescriptions & medical history to prove my case.

Therefore,,, NEVER GIVE IN TO FALSE ACCUSATIONS,,,
1, CARRY YOUR NEUROLOGISTS BUSINESS CARD WITH YOU & SHOW THE AUTHORITY WHEN EVER YOU CAN.
2, Ask your Neurologist to write you a note describing your Epilepsy, confusion, disorientation, dizziness & memory problems, take your prescriptions & medical history to the Judge, I BET YOU, YOU WILL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH.

Good luck!!!
Remember, we are already living with Seizures.
How worst can the systems & establishment be?

Ghebre

I can't tell you how much better I felt after reading your post. Not that I wish this on anyone but it's nice to know I'm not alone with this. I have no support from my husband or family. I'm humiliated and ashamed since the arrests and my husband says I need to just " stop stealing!" I have no idea what I'm doing when these episodes occure. So, thank you so much!

Krissy4

www.myspace.com/MySeizures
Kirrsy,

REMEMBER, Many paranoid societies & their business enterprises are ALREADY suspicious of their own CUSTOMERS, families, neighbors, employees & "PRESUME" PEOPLE are up to something NOT good.
And our medical conditions immediately "ENFORCES, PROVES & CONFIRMS THEIR PRESUMED SUSPICIONS".
Too bad, Society is ALREADY programmed, manipulated & made up to believe, EVERY ONE IS A CRIMINAL.

Therefore, JUST LIKE WE LEARNED TO PUT UP WITH THIS MENACE, Epilepsy, we have to learn to live with IGNORANT SOCIETY, who NEVER lived i our shoes.

BTW: I'm very pleased to let you see,,, "WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT".
I'm glad you came to know, we are ALL paying a heavy price for our unfortunate predicament we did NOT ask for.

Keep fighting back,,, WE DON"T HAVE TO CONVINCE THE WORLD TO UNDERSTAND OUR FATE.

Ghebre

See? Thats why i am so grateful for finding this site. The short term memory loss, while frustrating, is only the tip of the iceburg of epilepsy issues being dismissed by others as a cop out. Recently, I have began having a new type of seizure. Horrible muscle twitching for 15 minutes, followed by uncontrollable shaking, all while I am aware. I had one a few days ago and my husband just stood over me, doing the "bullsh.." head shake. So, punch, you can show your mom how many of us have the same symptoms. Because we are the only ones who know the facts, the only ones whos understanding matter. And if they refuse to believe, we need to tell them to keep thier opinions in thier heads.  

Krissy4

See? Thats why i am so grateful for finding this site. The short term memory loss, while frustrating, is only the tip of the iceburg of epilepsy issues being dismissed by others as a cop out. Recently, I have began having a new type of seizure. Horrible muscle twitching for 15 minutes, followed by uncontrollable shaking, all while I am aware. I had one a few days ago and my husband just stood over me, doing the "bullsh.." head shake. So, punch, you can show your mom how many of us have the same symptoms. Because we are the only ones who know the facts, the only ones whos understanding matter. And if they refuse to believe, we need to tell them to keep thier opinions in thier heads.  

Krissy4

well back in 2010 i was under a little bit of stress but i ended up having a seizure at school while on keppra 500 mg.

but that was me you might and could be different

 

babygi...

Ok so Iam new to this . I had my first (that I knew of ) seizure in march.  I was watching t.v. and the next thing I remembered was finding myself in a hospital bed with tubes and wires head to toe . It took almost 24 hours before I was really aware of my surroundings.  so Iam now on Lamictal for about 6 weeks. I have been using ambien as well or at least I was . I have been having a hard time with  memory loss. Someone can say something and I have no idea what they where talking about at the end of the conversation . Also I start to say something and I cant get the word  out that I wanted to say out sometimes the word that comes out of my mouth is inappropriate. I don't know what the cause is yet  I have stopped the Ambien to see if things get better and I think maybe it is a little better. I will be seeing my neurologist in a few days I can ask her a lot of questions . I can remember things that happened from years ago but not what you just finished saying. The really hard part though is that I have been a electronics eng for 30 years and now I have a hard time tracing out circuits that I designed myself. Maybe it is the Lamictal  does it get better when you have adapted to the medication?

techgeek

I also have severe memory loss. Some days, it's as if the day before has been erased from my brain. I am also on lamictal but this was happening long before I began that med. I saw my neuro today and he said the most common reason for this type of memory loss is seizures while I'm asleep. I do know I have 1 or 2 a week while I'm asleep but next week I'm going into the hospital for a few days to be monitored while asleep.

Krissy4

Yes!  Since the temporal lobe is where most memory is maintained, many patients with TLE lose some memory.  Sometimes it is difficult to tell if it's the E, the AED's and/or simply aging that is most responsible for memory difficulty.  I've had TLE for virtually my entire life.   Memory used to be one of my strongest points,  despite my TLE, and helped me build a successful career.  However, about 10 years ago, after being on one successful AED for many years,  I suddenly began having severe seizures which eventually subsided, but have not been completely controlled since. (I'm certain they were hormonal related.)  My memory has never been the same since.  This has been a gradual process, during which period, I have tried multiple AED's and combinations thereof.  I'm currently on KeppraXR, Klonopin and Vimpat, which has proven be the best regimen for control of my seizures.  Unfortunately, the side effects are fairly severe.  As a result, I had to leave my work due mainly to short term memory difficulties, but other functional impairments as well.   My long term memory remains excellent.  Some people tell me that it's just the typical aging process, but even my 85 yr old mother has a better short term memory than I do.  After speaking with my neuro, he said that was an unreasonable comparison, since my mom doesn't have E.  That irked me, so I asked if he would recommend me for an MRI to compare with the last one I had 10 years ago.   Not only did he agree, but he also recommended me for a PET scan, in case it's the onset of Alzheimers (which I strongly doubt).   I had my PET a few days ago, and will have my MRI tomorrow, so should have a better idea next week of the cause or causes.  Hopefully the tests will show something reasonably definitive.

FK

Good luck with your tests!  I'm currently taking Lamictal, Klonopin, Dilantin, and Vimpat.  The Vimpat seems to help  the most when it comes to my post ictal recovery period.  In fact, I had a seizure yesterday, but didn't realize it because it wasn't witnessed.  I usually wear a helmet, but at approx:  3:00 AM, I rolled over to discover a giant bump on the side of my head behind my ear.   I have no memory of the event at all.   We always have amnesia of our seizures.  I guess it's a blessing in disguise.  At least with the Vimpat, I'm in a great mood most of the time.  It's amazing how it makes me feel.  I never felt this great in my entire life.  I've had seizures most of my life but wasn't diagnosed until my 1st tonic clonic in 1975.  I've tried almost all AEDs, and some have had horrible side effects.  The most effective for me have been Dialantin and Vimpat.

I just had an MRI taken last year to see how I was doing.  My doctor told me the changes didn't look too different for my age.....(explain that???)  I have a feeling that he was trying to tell me I had some damage....so I'll have to find out.  A PET scan will diagnose Alzheimer's?  That's or any kind of dementia is what I'm concerned about.   Please let me know about the results of your PET scan.  I might ask my epileptologist to order that for me.  Take care of yourself, and make sure to keep working on your brain...exercise puzzels....whatever!!

- Therese

tcameron

Dear therese,

 lamictal might make your hair fall out. Ask your Dr. or go on the site Lamictal and hair loss. i hope that helps. If Dilantin and Vimpat worked the best why did you go off it / i'm going through a change in meds and am now on Lamictal and vimpat. i'm going off Lamictal because of the hair loss. The dr. is just going to keep me on Vimpat. I heard thats an add on drug that a person should take another drug also. Do you know??

Also Lamictal will edefietly give you memory loss. On that site I gave you they talk about different meds also.. good luck with everything . i have grand mals also. Bye for now and take care.. L. G.

Jeanie11

I have memory loss long term & short term, speech problems, disoriented, off balance and it's only been worse since I've started the drugs. I am maxed out on Keppra XR and Vimpat. I too now have extreme hair loss. I used to have such thick hair. It's so frustrating and fighting infections seem impossible, this a side affect from Keppra. Everyone, except those of us who suffer think epilepsy is only seizures, no way ~ it's only the beginning.  I can't spell anymore either, thank God for spell check!

I started taking Biotin and B6 daily for my hair loss and some is growing back. I now have some hair that is only one to two inches long. My hair is all one length for the most part, to my shoulders, but now I have some bangs, new hair and it seems to growing quickly. My hair is still thin, but it's a start. 

Wishing everyone the best. TD

 

T Davis

Hi L.G.,

I didn't know Lamictal caused hair loss.  I thought my helmet was responsible for it.  (Maybe both?)   The only AED I knew caused hair loss was Depakote, but I'm only a patient.  I'm currently taking Klonopin, Dilantin, Lamictal and Vimpat.  That's a lot.  Previously, Dilantin was most effective for seiz. control with least side effects.  Seiz. control stopped in the early '90's.  It wasn't until I started the Vimpat, that I noticed it was also great for me.  No extra seiz control, but postictal confusion is shorter and ALL headaches are gone!  (Those migraines are painful!!)  I'll contact my epileptologist re:  the Lamictal/hair/memory loss.  When I called previously re: memory loss, I was told that they ALL caused it, so my Rx wasn't changed.  However, if Lamictal causes MORE memory loss, I WANT OFF!!!  (It's probably different for each person.)  He probably won't change my Rx, but I'll ask.

- Therese

P.S.  What was the site you gave me??

tcameron

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