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grazia...
grazia...

I'm Afraid My Current Seizure Problems Could Cost My Me My Marriage

I've been Grand Mal epileptic for 30 years and was really fairly controlled for the majority. When I was married to my 1st husband, he didn't even believe I had Epilepsy because he was never around the 2 times I had seizures, but that was 15 years ago. Now I'm almost 38 and have been remarried for what will be 13 years this month. The last 4 years have been hell on my husband and I give him more praise than anyone can. The worst was a horrendous car accident I was in where I was on the phone with him and he heard the whole thing as I went into a seizure at the wheel and nearly lost my life. I was life-flighted out and needed 5 surgergies. I was lucky be be alive and it scared him to death. He quit his job as a long haul truck driver to be local and take care of me. I now walk like a 60 year-old woman and have pins and screws in me. But he has always been there. Well, over the last few years, my seizures keep getting worse, and now I am dealing with a severe allergic reaction to the meds. I can no longer work outside of the home and I used to bring in a huge paycheck. I had another car accident but it was small because I felt the seizure coming on, so I cannot drive either. He has gone back to long haul driving because of the money, but it keeps him away from home for 3 or 4 weeks at a time. He is miserable and blames my medical problems for all of our bills.....and he's right......that's 100% the reason for all of them! I want to go back to work. I have 16 years management experience, but I'm afraid I'll have a seizure at any moment because I'm not controlled at all. We live in a small town and the unemployment rate here is almost 18%. Half the time he only text messages me and he has quit asking how I'm feeling. I don't know what to do. I have asked SOOOOO much of him for SO many years. I'm afraid I've just asked too much.

By grazia... at Sat, 07/04/2009 - 12:05am | 245 views | 23 comments

Recent Comments on this Discussion

I'm posting here on an older topic because I never saw anyone talk about counseling and thought I'd add my experience for anyone else who reads this discussion.

I am lucky that my seizures are controlled and not nearly as scary as others have written about (partial complex with secondary generalization... in other words, I get a weird feeling and I know to lie down, then I lose consciousness).   However, while we were going through the diagnosis stage, it was pretty touch and go.  My husband even denied that I was having seizures.  This was mostly because no one ever saw them, they happened during the night or when no one else was around and since he hadn't witnessed them himself, I believe that he was still hoping for something a little less scary for a diagnosis.

Because we got them controlled pretty easily with medication, we didn't really get into a major crisis with my seizures.  However, a few years later when he was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis at a very young age of 42, we did get into some tricky waters.  After months of stress, we went to see our therapist who helped him deal with his anger/fear/depression about the disease and helped us deal with how we were interacting with each other over it.

I highly recommend counseling whenever communications break down.  We all have different personalities and react to stressful situations in different ways.  The additional stress comes when your spouse's reaction causes a counter-reaction on your part.  Get a neutral third party involved.  He/She will ask the right questions and get the communication flowing again.  Once you find a good therapist, keep him/her in your contact list.  My fifteen year marriage is going strong due to a few "tune ups" from our therapist that have kept the communication flowing.

kruize...

Kruize, I agree that counceling may be beneficial in some instances. However my mairage of 15 yrs has gone up in flames due to my epilepsy and the surgery that I undertook to try to stop my seizures.

We went thru counceling. And all it proved was how different that we had become.

So it isnt always the cure all end all for everybody.

Ranger

don't you think you shouldn't have been driving!?? i mean i don't really understand why people do that! i'm 22 and it's really hard to ask people to drive me around and taking the bus.... but for the safety of other innocent people and my own, i don't driv! sorry if i sound like a b**ch but that's how things should be! 

telle

I dont understand how he can blame all this on you and your medical bills.When you marry someone you also marry their problems and faults.He should of known that when he married you.I am sure he has some things you dont like,yet you still married him.My husband stays with me knowing i need medicene and dr's all the time and we dont have money for that.Its called love,If your husband leaves you cause of this then he never loved you and is only thinking of himself.If you ever need someone to talk to or to talk to your husband you can email me at sktl4@yahoo.com,I really hope everything works out for you.Tell your husband to relax and it will all work itself out.

Lisa P...

I can understand the frustrations that your husband is having.  My daughter has had seizures since she was two days old so I've been dealing with uncontrolled seizures for 25 years.  While it has caused many disruptions in our lives, I try and deal with things the best I can. I know that's easier said than done for some family members.

I think you need to express to your neurologist about how your uncontrolled seizures have been so disruptive to your marriage and life.  There may be other options such as a switch in another medicaiton or perhaps consideration to surgery.  Everyone deserves a quality of life and I hope that your neurologist is a compassionate person to thoroughly re-evaluate your current treatment.

~Karen

Nerak95

Hey I think more than anything you need to find someone that will love you for you and always take care of you no matter what. some people were put on this planet to take care of others and love them unconditiaonlly. My boyfriend has epilepsy and we started dating 7 months ago, the last 5 out of those 7 have been ridiculous, his seizures are anything but controlled but we find our way around them. In the last 5 months, he's been in the hospital twice, had two seizures around me, lost his memery, almost died, among countless other things but i've never once doubted my love for him. I mean, yeah everything gets a lot harder with his epilepsy being the way it is, a lot of things need to be compromised but besides that, we have a really happy and healthy relationship. I've stuck with him through a lot and I continue to plan to do so. Some people can deal with it, others can't. A lot of kids my age could never go through what he and I have togheter. I just turned 18 a few days ago.

Do what makes you happy, do what's best for yourselves. If it's not going to work then fine, it's his loss that he's overlooking your inner beauty and all the things you have to offer, because of yoru epilepsy

Bri_Ch...

What a beautiful person you are! I commend you for standing by him and having such maturity at such a young age. Clearly you were raised well. Kudos to your parents or those who had a hand in molding your heart. My older sister died of cancer at 25 after being diagnosed at 19 and her boyfriend stayed by her. It made her so much stronger. Stay the wonderful person you are. I would be proud to call you mu daughter. 

~~~Life is a one lap race. It's not about winning; it's about enjoying the ride.~~~

grazia...

Thank you, it hasn't been easy but when I feel like giving up I remmeber how much I love him as a person because epilepsy doesn't define Ryan, he does. Everytime it gets tough, I just think about the future and I'm hopeful that this will soon be controlled so we can live a happy life, and he can be siezure freee.

Bri_Ch...

If he's stopped asking you how you feel and he's gone most of the time, then you must be honest with yourself.  Well, really, you've got to be honest with him, too.

Are you both really going to be happy staying together if you aren't going to work on the marriage together?

Might as well face up to it with him, lay all your cards out together. Then make a decision.

Get a divorce and be the best of friends if you have to.  But if happiness is what neither one of you can have in a marriage, then that's not worth it.

But you both have to face up to what's happening.

And there's also a lot of things that can be read into this post that I'm not going to get into, but are probably also making your life pretty miserable.

If he won't face up to things with you, or avoids setting up a time and place to do it, then it's time to move on.

Pretty ironic that what he does for a living is also what has caused you so many problems.

Anyway, Been there, done that.  My first marriage was never happy to start with, though. 

 

robl

peace R.C.

  Hi    First "disclaimer "  I may ramble a bit because of the sz I think? I had at 4 am 

  Some of what you said and others too sounds familar 

   I,m 45 and have szs but not nearly the trble you have because of the acidents.

   I am divorced and because of meds I can see where at least it was "some" of the reason.

   I figure my wife sat through at least 1,ooo g mal szs  and now my 11 yr old d.d has been through over 50 alone and never called 911 

    I worked for over 10 yrs while doing this and even realized I was that sick ? lol oops 'tuff" guy.

   ironic that she is now the only person to say I am not that sick to be on ssdi lol 

  Heck I was approved in less than 90 days oops I may be ill "a little"

   I broke a finger last night  waaa after reading this I think I,m whining to even feel bad. let alone be ill.

    For HIM I big praise is due and I,m sure you that  BUT after so much of the stress and just "life" maybe he does,nt ? 

   If the tables were turned would YOU still be there ?

   what does his family think ? are you friends with them .

   Is it the money causing the prob. if so pls look around I,m sure you know IT gets worse  .

    The happiest I,ve ever been was still living paycheck to pay check lol .

     do something different for the both of you  almost anything "a change" it can be getting somone to to re paint the living room and move the furn around

  a suprise for HIM when he comes home send a card to his company so he gets it when he checks in or out .

   make a day for HIM .make sure the others he talks to know how you feel so they can talk to HIM 

  not in a you are whining way but that HE matters kind of way.

   make a bbq day for HIM 

  like a employee of the month thing for him 

   I fully understand about some of this and have lost several dear friends because they simply could not stand me being sick and burned out every time they saw me.  i SAY I,m glad you are still typing anf he is still with you . married always works better because the stress of the divorce can be way to much for good friends ...Rick

wichit...

Thanks for some GREAT ideas! I get along well with his family and my family praises him like crazy every time they can. They take him out for fancy steak dinners and buy him things he can't afford to buy himself as a way to say "thanks". I would definitely stay with him if the tables were turned. I think the hardest thing I've been dealing with lately is that with Epilepsy, it NEVER goes away. Even if I had Cancer, there is a strong chance of remission or cure after treatment which means you deal with it for a while and then go on with life. I just spent the whole day in the ER today because I'm rejecting my meds and we're on the third one in 6 years. I haven't even called him to tell him I was in the hospital because I just don't want to tell him I was back there for the 2nd time in 3 days. He doesn't deserve all of the stress and financial burden. 

 

~~~Life is a one lap race. It's not about winning; it's about enjoying the ride.~~~

grazia...

Hi Grazia, This post made me sad, Im sorry but having your family praise your husband and buy him things he cant afford as a way of saying thanks. What is he being thanked for? For being your husband and texting you? For being upset you not being able to make big money anymore? Im sorry it just sounds like your family is trying to buy your husband off not praise him and besides I dont think a grown man needs to be praised for standing by his wife in a time of need I think its what our husbands and we wifes do for each other without the need of gifts attached for doing so.

Then you say you spent the whole day in the hospital and havent told him because you dont want to burden him, If this is the case yes you need to sit down and have a heart to heart chat with him. My daughters called my husband the last time I had a TC seizure. My kids were worried and called 911 I was really out of it and before I knew it here comes my hubby running around the corner of the ER. He was at work, he is the boss and its really hard for him to get away but he did and would not have it any other way.

Please if you love him and he loves you have that heart to heart and figure this out with no gifts attached

 

 

nealym...

I've appreciated everything that has been discussed on this topic.  Let me just say that I'm on your husband's side of the issue.  I've been married for almost 11 years, and I've dated him 2 years prior to that.  Honestly, I have my days where I wonder what we are doing.  I certainly love him to death, but I find myself totally discouraged.  I don't believe it is the condition that has me questioning my resolve in my marriage.  Really, it is the depression and lack of confidence that kills me.  He is an extremely intelligent individual, but I find his fear in his condition is really holding him back.  It concerns me when I can tell that he wastes all his energy on the fear.  This lowers his threshold, and we have ourselves a self fulfilling proficy of another seizure.  I wish that if he's going to have a seizure anyway, perhaps he might be willing to use his worry energy on something a little more productive than fear.  I wish that the kids and I were worth the effort.  If he is just too sick then perhaps he could take the iniciative to talk to the doctor, and start the paperwork for ssb.  To be honest, much of my anger is about money.  However, I have always been the "bread winner" in the household.  I don't mind that much, but I also have a son who has Asparger's Syndome.  I find that he is more apt to be able to mesh into society when I spend time with him understanding social moras.  I have attempted have my husband stay home to heal, but then the depression grows even stronger.  I would like to feel like I could be taken care of too.  That somebody would be ready to move forward with life if I just couldn't go any farther.  Spouses get depressed, overwhelmed, and discouraged too.  We spend so much time putting on a brave face when we're dying inside.  We feel absolutely helpless to protect this person who we love with everything in us, and we have a tendancy to give up trying to help them see that they are not their condition. 

 I felt the young person who has been with their significant other for 7 months.  I remember those days.  I would stick by him through anything (I still will).  I just don't feel so strong anymore.  After you've watched countless grand mal seizures happen before your eyes, after you find yourself praying that the next one will happen in bed, and not in the bathroom or on the road.  Hoping that you don't have to get him stitches, or worse watch him spend weeks still unable to remember simple thoughts you start to think that perhaps you just aren't ever going to be enough for them.  The only way you will ever be able to get your entire family the support it needs is to just have him go back to his family (who obviously think they could take better care of him). 

 I really appreciate all of your words.  Please don't get me wrong.  I love my husband so much.  I just want to feel like my kids and I aren't so dang vulnerable.  I would like to see him be willing to help people understand.  People really are more understanding than we give them credit for.  They just need to be communicated to.  He truly believed that I would dump him once he told me he was epileptic.  It saddens me to think that thinking was ever in his understanding.  My family never felt like he was less of a person.  We just want to feel a real effort.  Thanks again for letting me post.  I"m all ears for any advice. 

My advice to you Grazia is to communicate with your husband, and let him know what you are trying to do for his hard work and effort.  Even if you are unable to work.  Help him feel like his contribution really means something to you.  He needs you to really believe that you love him, and that you don't just appreciate that he takes care of the things that need to be done.  Thanks again for your thoughts.

bratface

I am sooo happy you said that and that the "issue" was brought up. I am having one of those breakthrough moments reading all of this. It is sooo my marriage, my feelings, and our issues. We've been married for 15yrs. He has the e, and I've taken so much emotional, physical loss (and financial). He works everyday, but the medical bills gave us issues. Money isn't my reason, at all for feeling the way I have. I am touched that you mentioned how spouses go through "depression" because of the toll of it all. I have. Guilt. Plenty. No one gets what I'm dealing with. Sob sob because he has epilepsy. It wasn't an issue when his medication was a lesser amount. Only after about 7 years later, complete changes (intimacy, dissociativeness, moodiness) and there is no switch meds option. I miss my husband, our life, and my own positivity and feelings. I've come to the crossroads and divorce is the only option. I have struggled through "in sickness and in health" guilt. Infidelity (me) issues, and done all I can. This relationship is not "normal" never will be, and I'm missing out on life. I'll always be his friend, but I can't live this way no more. Thank you for expressing it that way. Many do not get it. And don't take the "sob sob he has epilepsy" the wrong way. It was not even a factor when I met him. We had a great life together for years, but with all the changes and his refusal to acknowledge, or engage even in the various e-communities I've looked at/into, medication research, I've changed his doctors; we just need to part. This is not my husband and it hurts on a serious level. I've tried my hardest to find in who/how he has become, some part of what I can live with and need, but it's all gone. I get what a few have shared and the thoughts are very much mimicking exactly what I feel like. Thank you.

claris...

I've appreciated everything that has been discussed on this topic.  Let me just say that I'm on your husband's side of the issue.  I've been married for almost 11 years, and I've dated him 2 years prior to that.  Honestly, I have my days where I wonder what we are doing.  I certainly love him to death, but I find myself totally discouraged.  I don't believe it is the condition that has me questioning my resolve in my marriage.  Really, it is the depression and lack of confidence that kills me.  He is an extremely intelligent individual, but I find his fear in his condition is really holding him back.  It concerns me when I can tell that he wastes all his energy on the fear.  This lowers his threshold, and we have ourselves a self fulfilling proficy of another seizure.  I wish that if he's going to have a seizure anyway, perhaps he might be willing to use his worry energy on something a little more productive than fear.  I wish that the kids and I were worth the effort.  If he is just too sick then perhaps he could take the iniciative to talk to the doctor, and start the paperwork for ssb.  To be honest, much of my anger is about money.  However, I have always been the "bread winner" in the household.  I don't mind that much, but I also have a son who has Asparger's Syndome.  I find that he is more apt to be able to mesh into society when I spend time with him understanding social moras.  I have attempted have my husband stay home to heal, but then the depression grows even stronger.  I would like to feel like I could be taken care of too.  That somebody would be ready to move forward with life if I just couldn't go any farther.  Spouses get depressed, overwhelmed, and discouraged too.  We spend so much time putting on a brave face when we're dying inside.  We feel absolutely helpless to protect this person who we love with everything in us, and we have a tendancy to give up trying to help them see that they are not their condition. 

 I felt the young person who has been with their significant other for 7 months.  I remember those days.  I would stick by him through anything (I still will).  I just don't feel so strong anymore.  After you've watched countless grand mal seizures happen before your eyes, after you find yourself praying that the next one will happen in bed, and not in the bathroom or on the road.  Hoping that you don't have to get him stitches, or worse watch him spend weeks still unable to remember simple thoughts you start to think that perhaps you just aren't ever going to be enough for them.  The only way you will ever be able to get your entire family the support it needs is to just have him go back to his family (who obviously think they could take better care of him). 

 I really appreciate all of your words.  Please don't get me wrong.  I love my husband so much.  I just want to feel like my kids and I aren't so dang vulnerable.  I would like to see him be willing to help people understand.  People really are more understanding than we give them credit for.  They just need to be communicated to.  He truly believed that I would dump him once he told me he was epileptic.  It saddens me to think that thinking was ever in his understanding.  My family never felt like he was less of a person.  We just want to feel a real effort.  Thanks again for letting me post.  I"m all ears for any advice. 

My advice to you Grazia is to communicate with your husband, and let him know what you are trying to do for his hard work and effort.  Even if you are unable to work.  Help him feel like his contribution really means something to you.  He needs you to really believe that you love him, and that you don't just appreciate that he takes care of the things that need to be done.  Thanks again for your thoughts.

bratface

Hi all, well i have read the comments, and i too have epilepsy (controlled) And would like to offer my experiences with you to hopefully help. I was born with it and had grand mal siezures until 1977 when my meds changed for the fifth time, and the things that remained the same was the depressive feelings, lack of short term memory, a feeling of lack of self worth, inc pre-conceived ideas of what people thought about me and in some cases i was right.. And it wasn't til the 90's that things started to improve, and this is where i want to help, as to help the people that have epilepsy and their partners to understand my journey, and hopefully start your own enlightening journey.. :-)

One of my first lessons was that the good old brain can only make energy from two sources, sugars or water, and that the good old brain runs a lot smoother on the hydro-electric power WATER my second lesson was that the brain is two thirds cholesterol, and i find that a high fat diet helps ME not everyone, but worth a try then in this Century i had major leaps in terms of knowledge and it becoming my power.. The following is imperative for you to take on board in order to make significant progress.. YOUR DOCTOR  does not understand nutrition like you hope he does, this i got educated on, also i read the side effects related to my meds, and also googled the ingredients MSDS reports for information. One time my doctor changed my meds and i nearly had a seizeure the next thing i did was read the side effects guess what one of the side effects was...... oh SIEZEURES umm 

The next one was an eye opener, now if your one that likes FRUIT and still has seizures, Citrus fruits are natures CLEANERS and looks after your insides, but the bit that's the killer is that my meds are not natural to my body, so the fruits were cleaning out the meds, making them less effective, so since i stopped the citrus fruits i feel better.. :-) 

Another side effect was that my meds absorbed BLOOD CALCIUM and i learned without Calcium or sufficient quantities leading to weak muscles, so i rectified that one too by upping my calcium intake with high quality supplementation, my short term memory was effected too, again education and action.

Now i know this seems in the wrong subject, as it seems to have nothing to do with relationships, but i felt that there are a lot of people suffering, due to what i call TOTAL DOCTOR DEPENDANCY. and no other idea of where to start. what ended up being my solution was GETTING EDUCATED cos you can't leave it to your doctor. Findf out what works best for you then go with it. and don't be afraid to tell ya doctor HE'S WRONG if that's how you feel

I really hope that this post helps people like i have been helped through education, this has made it, as i don't fear fits, mo memory issues, no weak muscle issues, no depression issues, HOW because i got educated FOR ME now i am trying to share my experience to help others, doing things differently might work for you but trial and error is the key, and when your on the right track, keep going...

QUOTE... All success is 99% failure. And getting it right ONCE 1%  :-)

Greg

GREG1958

He doesn't deserve all of
the stress and financial burden. 

You seem to be answering your own question here.  Or, do you have a guilt complex?  If you feel guilty and he's not helping you get over the guilt, then you have to realize that he's not really being your friend anymore. He's being your husband, technically, by law, and that can fool a lot of people.  They put their feelings of husband/wife into the legal container that is still there and then - nothing.

Look, there is some serious dodging going on here.  Your husband is a big boy. He knows what he is doing. Sure, everybody loves him and you've gotten some great ideas, but lets see how long the romance lasts after you try some of this stuff out.

Do yourself a favor, and I know I'm going to be called a jackass, but before you start any ideas, get serious with your husband and LAY OUT YOUR CARDS!  Ask him how he really feels. Don't try to get him to love you again. Ask him why he isn't there in the first place.  Tell him your position.  You have to let each other know your positions.

In the meantime, I would have you talk to an attorney and get some advice on how to deal with all of the stress and financial burden just in case, because no matter what anybody says otherwise it is always the nice ones, like you, who don't see it coming. And it is always the nice ones like you who are the last to know and have friends and family who all love the other spouse to death.

OK,  OK,  I'm just looking out for you.  I know, I'm probably totally wrong.  But, don't you want to just have a small amount of backup with that burden and stress if the worst happens?

 

robl

I don't think you're being a jackass at all. I appreciate your complete honesty which is something no one ever gives me because they are afraid to upset me me for feel it will stress me out and cause a seizure. I think you're right. It's amazing that after being Epileptic for 30+ years and figuring I could pretty much deal with whatever it dished out, I never realized how much this site and people like you have really helped me even after all these years. Thanks for the honesty! :)

 

~~~Life is a one lap race. It's not about winning; it's about enjoying the ride.~~~

grazia...

Update for all who gave me some wonderful advice.......

I tried in vain to speak to my husband about my concerns and it got me no where. Then, my mother was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer and he was upset with me any time I would cry saying he didn't understand why I was upset because she wasn't dead yet! Well, she died 2 weeks ago and he was as cold at the end as he was day one.

Luckily, 2 months ago, I had a realization.....if he cares this little for someone who means the world to me and is always bothered when an issue arises with me, how could I know he would be there when I was elderly with a shot memory? So...I did what I knew I needed to and ended the marriage. I figured why spend the 2nd half of my life with someone who sees me as a burden and is apathetic to my situation?

Sure.....these past few months have been hell, but amazingly I have not had a single seizure in months!I think I'm going to try and start a home business.

 

 

~~~Life is a one lap race. It's not about winning; it's about enjoying the ride.~~~

grazia...

It's not uncommon to go through a number of AEDs before you find the right one.  In fact, I'm surprised that if your seizures haven't been controlled in 6 years that you only tried three of them. There are many alternatives out there.  Sometimes two drugs work better together than monotherapy. 

I don't know what kind of a relationship you have with your current neurologist but he needs to be more agressive in your treatment.  It shouldn't take years to see if a medication works.  As I said, there are many alternatives out there that have allowed many people to attain seizure control.  It might be too premature to suggest this but sometimes a second opinion might be in order.

~Karen

Nerak95

peace R.C.

  Hi

  I,m on my 11 th med. now in a few yrs. 

  Rick

wichit...

How about the VNS stimulator? Quality of life is worth it.   djj

djj58

I agree with Lisa p.

They will stay if they love you.

Sit down and talk about it with them tonight. Its as simple as that.

 

 

wd123

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