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Mornin...
Mornin...

Seizures During Sleep

 

Hi, I'm new to this site. I have most of my seizures in my sleep or in the morning after waking up.. my last one being two days ago. It seems that either illicit drugs, alcohol or lack of sleep bring most of my seizures on, and I'm working on getting them under control by giving up these things rather than taking my medication, I find the medication Valpro has some bad side effects.

I think my last seizure  was a big one becauseI have been a scattered mess since then, I've slept for two days straight now and I have yet to leave the house. I can't think straight so if this doesn't make any sense I hope u understand why. My whole body is aching and my memory is slowly returning.

Anyways I'm almost 25 and I was diagnosed about 2 1/2 years ago.. does anybody else experience sleep related seizures?.. I truly believe if I can get enough sleep I will  get my epiliepsy under control.

Thanks for any of your comments.

By Mornin... at Wed, 02/11/2009 - 7:16pm | 2419 views | 197 comments

Recent Comments on this Discussion

Almost all of my szs have been while asleep.  It went on for a long time and had no idea why until I woke up one morning and had physically hurt myself and sought medical attention.  It SUUUCKS BAD!!!!!  The memory loss that is.  I'm also disoriented for a long time like you are as well.  I've woke up in hotel rooms and didnt know where I was or why I was there. 

My doc has urged me many times to not drink, and even though the web is full of advice to not drink if you are prone to szs, I dont listen.  For ME I've not found a correlation between the two.  I've gone extended periods, like a month, and during that time had the biggest one of my life. 

I'll admit its probably not in my best interest to drink and, regardless of its they're causing u szs or not, I'm sure the drugs aren't good for you. 

jasssmit

Almost all of my szs have been while asleep.  It went on for a long time and had no idea why until I woke up one morning and had physically hurt myself and sought medical attention.  It SUUUCKS BAD!!!!!  The memory loss that is.  I'm also disoriented for a long time like you are as well.  I've woke up in hotel rooms and didnt know where I was or why I was there. 

My doc has urged me many times to not drink, and even though the web is full of advice to not drink if you are prone to szs, I dont listen.  For ME I've not found a correlation between the two.  I've gone extended periods, like a month, and during that time had the biggest one of my life. 

I'll admit its probably not in my best interest to drink and, regardless of its they're causing u szs or not, I'm sure the drugs aren't good for you. 

jasssmit

I'm 30 years old been diagnosed with complex partial seizures and grand mal. The grand mals always occur during my sleep usually about 1 every month or so, but the complex partiasl on the other hand occur both during sleep and when I'm concious. I get a few complex partials a week. The complex partials are bad when I'm concious because mine tend to be violent. I do things like grab people, throw things and slam things down, I often yell obscenities at people, though the things I say during a complex partial are often nasty things it usually doesn't make any sense and people just think I'm crazy. I been medicated for the seizures since I was diagnosed but in recent times I had to change medications because my epilepsy has been progressive as of late and I'm going through a difficult time finding one that works well for me that doesn't have horrifying side effects. I think Keppra is poison for my mental well being but tha'ts just me, what works for some won't work for others. I can tell you from personal experience that lack of sleep is when I have the most problems with my seizures. Unfortunalty I also suffer from severe insomnia so that in and of itself produces loads of problems for me. The best thing you can do for yourself is to get yourself on a consistant routine with your sleep schedule even if that means working less and or making significant changes to your lifestyle.

bRyan1891

Are you working with an epileptologist?  There are other AEDs.  You
might need to try some more.  I've heard that 3 more should be available
in the U.S. in 2012.  (They might already be available elsewhere.)  Our seizure patterns can and do change over time.

Sleep deprivation is a documented trigger for seizures.  I've tried sleeping pills, but they don't always work.  Also, we need to make sure our neurologist approves of each specific drug before taking them.  (Every brain is different.  What is safe for one person w/ epilepsy could be deadly for another.)  

Sometimes my insominia feels like nothing works; except one I just discovered.  Calm, slow breathing, thoughts and songs.  Remember Silent Night?  We all know that one.  It works!  So do lullabies, and prayer.  Don't think of anything exciting, upsetting.  Just rest. 

We always need to keep a watch on our caffiene intake and other stimulants (read the labels) especially in the evening so they don't counteract with our AEDs.  The only way to beat insomnia, a major seizure trigger, is to relax.  

 

 

tcameron

I had my first noctornal seizure subday night. I have a sore back and right side and my left shoulder is somewhat sore. Today I went to talk to the lady that is in charge of our region for the Epilepsy Association of Calgary and she went onto all of her reseach sites for noctornal seizures, All I can tell you is they are usually tonic clonic seizures but not always, mine sure wasnt....but I did get hurt, it took on charastics of my regular complex partial seizures. Almost as if I was doing yoga which I do several times a week, the best rescouce she had was the epilepsy association of ontario website and found noctornal seizures. I dont the site but you can try googling it

prince...

My boyfriend is 19 years old and he's been having this problem for 5months I don't believe thats a good thing he refuses to take medications to help himself he didn't know what he had till today and neither did I I want to help him but I really need help I love this guy and I want to make sure he gets plenty of care. It had happen today 12/19/2011, He was taking a nap and his friends took him to the hospital this morning and his memory has been damaged from this seizure and now he doesn't remember we are dating I don't what to do to help him, I'm afraid that one day he's gonna fall asleep and never wake up again.

- Amanda Centeno
I'm 18 years old

mandii...

I'm 30 years old and I was diagnosed with epilepsy at age 23.  The neuro said it's genetic and I will have to live with it forever.  I only had 2 grand mals in 7 years.  Saturday I had trouble getting out of bed, like I didn't have strength.  A few hours after getting up I realized I wasn't able to have a conversation with people.  Recognizing I fealt weird, I took an ativan (lorazepam) a few hours after being awake.  I went to sleep and don't remember the rest of the day.  I've taken ativan before and not had that reaction.  Even the following day was a bit blurry.  The inside of my mouth is chewed up but it's more towards the front.  I'm single so I don't know if I have nocturnal seizures but I do find myself strongly twitching  while falling or waking up from sleep.  Also, I do wake up sometimes having the insides of my mouth being lightly chewed up.  And.... I know how bad it is, I'm a heavy drinker.  I mix energy drinks with alcohol.  I used to suppress my emotions through alcohol and now I just can't seem to stop.  I'm absolutely freaked out!!!  I'm on 375mg of lamictal.  Is there someone out there that has the alcohol problem and possible nocturnal seizures?  I also black out while drinking.  I know it's a problem!  I became very depressed after being diagnosed 7 years ago and turned to drinking.  Does it sound like I had a nocturnal seizure?  Sorry if this sounds a little neurotic!  I'm just so terrified.  I know I should expect it with drinking so much.  I have an appt with my new neurologist this afternoon and I'm assuming he will do an eeg (I'm due for one in 9 months).  Bless all of you who have it so much worse then I.  It takes a strong person to deal with epilepsy.  And sorry for this sounding a little wacked! 

-Trish 

patric...

I got those genetic ones too... Most same problems too...

Mason1...

Hi Trish,

 I understand that it is hard to be diagnosed with such illness or condition. I was diagnosed about one month ago and it has not been easy. I thought that I could die anytime or be a burden to my husband and kids. But if you like to live, try to live as well as you can, do not turn to drinking because it can make your condition worse than when you take care of your body as much as you can.

God has a reason for this to be happening, do your part on taking care of yourself.

Abbey

Abbey ...

im Loren 28yrs old i've had epilepsy my whole life i've had a seizure why sleeping (i thought it was a dream) fell out of bed an almost died. trust me take the tablets dont stuff around with them you're playing with your life. its no laughing matter you dont realize how much family/friends/life means until you're seconds from death.

my neurologist has started taking me slowly off a tablet coz im not having seizures i've been free of them for 18 months if you take your meds did you ever think if you stopped having seizures you may slowly come off the drugs people that do stupid things are asking for trouble like death why asleep.

 an when i was 22yrs old having a EEG they over dosed me i was close to dying. 

melb83

 

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davina...

*mama bear*

Hi.... i am alicia i hav had my siezures since i waz 7 yrs old i am now 25 i understand wen you say you stop taking the meds cuz they hav bad side affects, i wanted to do the same thing wen i was younger actualy tryed it never told my parents and it made the siezures stronger .... one thats cuz the the fact now your body is getting used to having the meds  and then u take it away it gets all fucked up. the drinking part i did as well on top of not taking meds like i should, i was a mess. sometime had a few a day., i know how frustrating it can be. drinking is not an easy thing to stop depending on how long you have done it that is. i think the meds are a pain but i also think as well as i want you to do would you rather work on ajusting your med to get wats right for you and be able to live  and  than let ppl prove you wrong wen they say ppl like us cant live a normal life.??

aek1985

I had petit mal seizures at the beginning of perimenopause, age 46, then my first grand mal sometime after.  I've had several since and in full menopause now at age 48.  The first took me to the ER and some tests but I refused any medication as I only take natural herbs and supplements.  After seeing my naturopathic doctor I began taking neurotransmitters (amino acids) and stress related herbs and vits.  It made all the difference but as I weaned myself off, they re-occurred.  The seizures only happen a night and my husband tells me the next morning, as I don't know, that I have had one and wake up groggy and lose my taste buds for a day. I suppose it has somethine to do with my hormone level.  So I'm now taking all the natural menopausal herbs and vits I can find that relate to this time in my life and expect to avoid seizures as long as I take it consistently.  I don't understand folks who take all kinds of chemical meds with all those side affects.  Herbs are most effective and feed the body what it needs without altering the body chemistry and potentially causing damage.  Allopathic doctors are tied in to the pharmaceutical industry and trained only in chemical use.  Not for me!!

dirwin

I have a very similar story can you please email me and send me a list of what you took/take and any other advice that may help me? Please put seizure help in the subject line so I will know who you are?

Thank you so much,

Hopeschild13@yahoo.com

hopesc...

Hi,

I'd love to know what you're taking. I'm not convinced that I'm epileptic, because I've only had 3 nocturnal seizures, 2 years apart, but the last one occured 2 weeks ago and scared me.

After the first one, I was placed on lamotrigine and then read about the side effects and slowly, over the 2 years I was supposed to take it, kept breaking the pills into smaller and smaller bits, until I wasn't taking a thing for several months and then, bang, another seizure. I think it was because I took a long bike ride- 50 miles and strenous, up and down hills- and then swimming the next day 66 laps. I'm not trying to brag, just trying to stay in shape, but I may have overdone it.

Seeing the neurologist today just resulted in a higher dose of lamotrigine- no explanations- and saying that I was epileptic. I thought epilepsy was something that had to be dealt with daily, with daily seizures? 

I'm just a little confused by it all. Maybe taking your herbs could be a way out of this?

Thanks for any info.

foster1

Many people with many different conditions don't believe they really have that,they aren't like other people, you know-- they wean themselves off their medication, they think they feel fine, something happens, and they end up dying,foster.

My mom weaned herself off high blood pressure medication and attempted to control everything through diet and exercise. Everything was fine for months, then she had a stroke and was hospitalized for nearly two months. She even had to learn to walk again. She retained some paralysis in one of her arms and she never worked again.

While we like to think we can control our bodies through diet, exercise, mind control, etc. that is rarely the case. Bear in mind, too, it isn't just the "big" seizures that can mess us up. My sister's friend didn't go to a doctor after having a seizure. No way did she believe that she had developed epilepsy--you know the drill--then one day she was holding her kid and her arms went flying up into the air.

Chrissyml

*mama bear* well let me tell ya this i hav had siezures since i was 7 yrs old and will be 26 next mo.

 All these yrs i have hoped and prayed it would go away, but it hasnt. Since the time i started haveing my siezures it was so bad i was in the hospital and got to the point  i had them constant they thoght puting me in a coma would slow them down, but that did not work

 Wen i came out i had to learn to walk and talk all over again. wen they sent me home with meds to take it was hillarious for the fact i looked like a damn drug adicct i had so many pills and other bottles of meds to taketru out all the yrs of me having my problem  with my siezures i have had ,( hillusonations), (just zoned out,)( some times i dnt even know wen they hit/sometimes do)

 It took forever to get on  spot were i am now to have them as under control as they are. IF YOU ARE SUPOSED TO TAKE YOUR MEDS BROKEN UP THEN DO SO BUT IF NOT DONT IT WILL FUCK YOU UP....if you wish to try some herbs 1 i can say i like is green tea for the fact it has alot of anti-oxidents in it and that will do good not just for you but your body as well.

I hope you kno im not tellin you wat to do just lived with this all my life so pretty much kno alot about wat happens and tryin to help if you wish  and want to kno more one on one let me kno i will give you my e-mail

(if any one hays something to say or wishes to coment plz do i would love to here wat you hav to say)

aek1985

Most people with epilepsy don't have daily seizures.  However, they do need to take their AEDs on a routine basis, mostly every day.  Sometimes an EEG will find "seizure activity" in the brain with no complete seizure for seizure to show up.  Most seizure patients find them under complete control with only 1 or 2 AEDs.  Most can do everything they want to.  The only difference between a seizure patient is needing to take their antiseizure medications.  The only times we are different are when we actually experience the seizures.

However, there are some of us that can't control them, no matter how many pills we take.  Some have seizures every day, or several times/day.  I take FIVE AEDs daily, but still experience approx. four seizures per month.  As far as herbs being a way out of this:  Some people might find it to be the case.  However, AEDs are there for a reason, and not all herbs are good for you.  Some people react very well, while others have horrific reactions.  Now that you are taking lamotrigine, check with your neurologist first to find out if any herbal supplements will counteract with your medications.  Find out first, before you injure yourself.  This could be a life/death issue!

tcameron

With respect, if herbs alone help you, you're fortunate & I envy you. Many on this list have seizures so profound they can't have a job, drive a car, go to a movie ... the help from modern chemistry can be a godsend or a hell; it's up to us & our physicians & our families to find the right course of action tailored to each individual's needs.
BTW, there are genes associated with a type of epilepsy where most women exhibit their worst seizures around menopause, whereas the pattern for men is to exhibit the worst seizures during & after puberty. Hormones look like part of the whole, & the EpGp project is trying to determine the genetic factor. My father has this gene(s) as does my mother & I've got it from both sides.

FeralP...

I'm single w/o anyone to tell me of seizures while sleeping and then only aware of some of my seizure frequency. Six months ago I had a 72hr. ambulatory eeg (AEEG) which records all seizure activity during regular life for so long. Afterward I told them that I was aware of NO seizures during that time. I wondered if some took place; but, they didn't tell me of any which I didn't know of. Later, I asked a doctor if any happened. His responce was, No. I'd wondered if some happen that I'm unconscious of. Due to my  seizures during awake are complex partials, they cause lost of consciousness. And if the same things took place when asleep in a padded bed I thought if they'd be more unnoticed w/o a witness.                       Timothy Baldwin

tbaldwin

Hi Tim,

What's bad is I'm married and he sleeps right through my night seizures! I have absence, complex partial and grand mal (TC) seizures. Now with medication I'm no longer having the complex partial during the day, I mostly have stong aura's or absence szs. There will be days I push myself and I will, knowing ahead of when there coming, I go lay down. Mine seizures show up in clusters. I still feel most of my acitivity is at night by the day's I want to sleep all day and body hurts as if I've been beat.  Sometimes biting my tongue. My grand mal seizure caught on my eeg and it's mostly intense muscle spams and no convulsion type jerking. These usually wipe me out for a few days. I have to give myself a pep talk just to get out of bed before noon.  My Neuro agrees is sounds like activity at night.  I can't work now so if complex partials are coming during the day I'm not sure, but I don't beleive so. On two medications, still having seizures so we are turning to surgery after the new year. I'm tired of trying drugs that only fail and give me horrible side effects. 

Do you experience daytime aura's on the days you feel your having seizures at night?  I will have several warning signs during the day which also help indicate something is going to happen.

 

T Davis

Seizures that occur while asleep are called nocturnal seizures.  They can still be complex partial seizures.  If all your seizures are nocturnal, you could still be allowed to drive in California. 

tcameron

I'm new to this site as well as having epilepsy. I'm 28 and I had my first seizure in Dec. of 2009. I'm not even close to having it under control. To me and my boyfriend who has been present for most of my seizures, and who even had the opportunity to record a few of them, I have 2 different types of seizures. It's the tonic-clonic seizures that I only have in my sleep. Me thrashing around next to him wakes him up and then he rolls me on my side and shoves a t-shirt or something in between my teeth to keep me from chewing up my tongue too much more than I already had before he woke up. These SUCK. I fall asleep immediately afterwards for hours and wake up with absolutely no recollection of what happened...just achy all over, a sore bitten up tongue, and a foggy brain. I usually come-to hearing him calling my name over and over until I finally answer. Then he tells me I had a seizure. I've had a lot of these since I've been diagnosed. I had 3 in a row one evening a couple months ago.

I also have complex partial seizures but I only have these while I'm awake. No convulsing or tongue biting though. I just stare off at nothing, fidget my fingers around and grab at my clothing, and chew as if I'm chewing food or a piece of gum. I have a recording of me having one of these. My boyfriend recorded it so I could see for myself. He can call my name and I'll look at him, but I never reply back...kinda like the lights are on but no ones home. There's nothing like watching a video of yourself just stare off at nothing unresponsive, or convulse uncontrollably with your eyes rolled up in the back of your head.

I've recently been switched from Lamictol and Neurontin - which didn't stop my seizures and also made me nauseous - to Lyrica and Depakote. So far I haven't had a seizure on the new meds but it hasn't been that long yet. Wish me luck!!

babygi...

Your story sounds like me. Hope all is well.

Electr...

I'm new to this site but I just joined because my husband has seizures in his sleep.  It's been very helpful to read all of your stories.

He had seizures at the age of 10 and was on medicine until 19 when they weaned him off.  He has been seizure free for nearly 21 years and then just had a gran mal in November 2010.  Ever since we can't figure out what's going on.  He is on 3000mg/day of Keppra and 1200mg/day of Trileptal yet still having seizures in his sleep throughout the entire night.  There was a period of about 2 or 3 weeks where they seemed to be decreasing, but now they are increasing in frequency and seem to be getting worse.

During our last refill the pharmacy told us they changed manufacturers for Keppra (he is on generic) and so I wonder if this could trigger it.  Anyone experience anything similar?  Just trying to find a patter. It's been over 6 months since the gran mal and he's still having auras and the seizures at night.

kellyr...

Regarding Generic brand meds..just want to say that I am on Tegretol CR and at one point was changed to a Generic brand and I started having breakthrough seisures on that drug, so my Neurologist had to specifiy Name Brand Only for me.  It makes a difference for me when taking Generic.

LadyJane

Hi Kelly,

 

Your note caught my eye because all of my seizures occur during my sleep.  This is a transformation since the time my seizures started 9 years ago.  I've taken just about every drug available for my partial complex seizures.  I was on Lyrica and Topomax and then my seizures changed to a stiffening, choking kind of experience during my sleep.  I was put on Vimpat and removed Topomax.  

I sometimes have auras during the day but almost every seizures occurs while sleeping.  I haven't experienced the problem you discussed about generic/brand name.  But, all those things are worth searching.  I know how difficult it is to find patterns, the manic kind of "what caused this?? what have I done differently?" -very frustrating. 

I hope you find resolution here.  The only thing I can do is keep a seizure journal and be mindful of getting enough sleep (big trigger) and avoiding extreme heat/body temp changes.

 

Best to you,

Zanna

Zannap...

I'm new to this site but I just joined because my husband has seizures in his sleep.  It's been very helpful to read all of your stories.

He had seizures at the age of 10 and was on medicine until 19 when they weaned him off.  He has been seizure free for nearly 21 years and then just had a gran mal in November 2010.  Ever since we can't figure out what's going on.  He is on 3000mg/day of Keppra and 1200mg/day of Trileptal yet still having seizures in his sleep throughout the entire night.  There was a period of about 2 or 3 weeks where they seemed to be decreasing, but now they are increasing in frequency and seem to be getting worse.

During our last refill the pharmacy told us they changed manufacturers for Keppra (he is on generic) and so I wonder if this could trigger it.  Anyone experience anything similar?  Just trying to find a patter. It's been over 6 months since the gran mal and he's still having auras and the seizures at night.

kellyr...

will me getting them in my sleep just started. Ive been on my med changed a lot about my life style so that i can try on preventing them, now i'm scared since there different ones involved and coming more frequently, i'm only 27 and i still got a lot a head of me

unders...

i also only have seizures when i sleep, but i have them once a month for 2 or 3 days straight. i am taking depakote and dilantin but i still have them ever since i was shot with 4 tazars in CO. they have been starting to get worse and worse and it is scaring the hell out of me, i finally won ssdi hearing after 2 and ahalf years. there is no help for people like us it seems and all i have done is roofing and drilling rigs and it is hard when you never no when you will be gone. i had 30 seizures last sat. and sun. just out of the blue. but an eeg and mri come back normal when it was done. how is that possible. hell i hate to sleep. i get very violent when dr. try poking me and have ended up in jail 3 or 4 times because of it.

3daysolum

Sleep Seizures  This is a new finding, but appears to be a significant one. Do the seizures occur when sleeping on your back only or do they occur in any position...side, stomach? Do they occur only at home? The possibility of a yet unknown toxic gas is likely. We need to determine whether the seizures are the result of pauses in breathing. A toxin would explain why none of the "usual" medicines don't work and breathing pauses might occur more often on your back  asleep. Try sleeping on your stomach to see if the seizures stop. Try opening the windows or using a fan to increase the air circulation and dilute a possible noxic gas. Is there stress associated? Anyone else in the house visualizing flashes of lights or having sleep related problems?

Many physicians think out of a box and treat in a similar maner using a limted number of disease processes. Seizures are often the result of another primary illness that can go on missed forever. Personally, I don't think we should be diagnosing seizures as a primary medical disease or disorder.

smithone

I have very wondered thought that exact same thing myself....HOW IS IT THAT EEG'S COME BACK NORMAL when its a known fact that there is a seizure disorder????  Maybe this should be a seperate posting?

LadyJane

Ive had  Partial Complex seizures for 54 years, and my seizures seem to come between 11pm and 7am.  I can't seem to get more than 4 hrs of sleep per night.  I spoke to my Dr and he gave me an antidepressant named  Celexa to take at night hoping it will make me drowsier and sleep longer but it is of no use.  In the day hours as long as I'm doing something and keeping my mind occupied Im seizure free.

The two meds that seem to work well together for me is Keppra and Trileptal. What triggers seizures in me is Depression, Anger, Tension, Stress, Overanxiety, and constipation. People say I'm emotionless,but to prevent seizures, I've sort of trained myself to not allow anything to bother me.  I remain cool, calm and collected and nonchalant most times.  I've become an Introvert, because trying to fit in with these high anxiety people just doesn't work. Just me and my cats.  I read a lot, watch tv, write, draw, do puzzles and things that are not group oriented. 

When a seizure does come at night, once I wake up its not easy to go back to bed.  I never even know I have had a seizure unless someone else tells me that last night at such a time you had a seizure.  I have no idea that I had one. Sometimes the only way I might know is when I'm out of it, I wonder why am I in the living room at 3am when I went to bed at 11pm? How I got in there I don't know?  but mine are always between 11pm and 7am

housekat

Hello At one point i was not getting much sleep either but my Dr found out i was not entering REM sleep and thats why even though i was getting the right number of hours of sleep i was still tired.  It could be that you are waking up at one point in your sleep because your body does not want to enter REM or another section of sleep anymore .. maybe so that it does not have a seizure?  The pills my Dr gave me for entering REM are called Novo Trazodone.  I also have night seizures.. had them for about a month before i even told my Dr.. did not relize i was having them.  She added an extra pill to my pharmacy and it seems to have worked. 

wooof

Hello At one point i was not getting much sleep either but my Dr found out i was not entering REM sleep and thats why even though i was getting the right number of hours of sleep i was still tired.  It could be that you are waking up at one point in your sleep because your body does not want to enter REM or another section of sleep anymore .. maybe so that it does not have a seizure?  The pills my Dr gave me for entering REM are called Novo Trazodone.  I also have night seizures.. had them for about a month before i even told my Dr.. did not relize i was having them.  She added an extra pill to my pharmacy and it seems to have worked. 

wooof

We sound remarkably like one another! Almost all of my seizures occur while sleeping, or when just waking up. I also take Keppra (2000 mg daily) and Depakote (1000 mg daily), but I can count on one or two seizures occurring on a single day every three weeks. Yes, being overtired, angry, or drinking coffee doesn't help. And no matter how many positive things are said about drugs such as these, having had epilepsy in many forms for over 40 years convinces me that when a seizure "needs" to get out of one's system, it will find a way to do so. And talking to virtually hundreds of other men and women with epilepsy makes me realize that the anxiety beforehand and the temporary depression afterwards is fairly common. However, as anybody with epilepsy will say, those first few hours (or even a day or so) after a seizure "... just ain't fun!"

George R

Hello internet.

Firstly, I wish to say sorry if I'm on the wrong road here, I'm just trying to understand the problem, which I'll describe - hoping that someone of you can label it or maybe point me to someone who can.

About 90% of the times I'm going to sleep, which can be any time of the day since I'm always very tired I start to "hear" things sounding like electric bursts or like someone hammering a wall very far away. Then I feel like I'm falling or flying or rolling, like I've lost all sense of balance. My jaw use to start to hurt a lot at this point and I try to relax and wake up - I'm totaly conscious during this, and I'm capable of thinking about anything, often I use to try to wake up but it's no use - when I breathe it feels like I breathe through closed teeth and I'm incapable of talking or, as I frequently try - screaming. I try to open my eyes, and I try to move. I can open my eyelids but my eyes are fixed at their position (looking upwards). I can't hold the eyelids open more than a few seconds. This event hurts, since it feels like my body's being stretched out or lifted all the time, when I "wake up" i use to do that with s short scream, waking up my girfriend who hasn't noticed anything.
At first I thought it was just a weird dream, but it's happened for about eight months, repeatedly, each time I'm falling asleep, often a few times in a row before I can sleep properly. When I wake up after this, I'm so tired I can hardly move, and my head aches as hell.

If someone knows ANYTHING please help me.

I'm 19 years old, diagnosed with ADHD. This sleeping problem has been going on for about eight months and only when I'm falling asleep. The whole thing goes on for about a few minutes or so, or so it feels - if that's any help.

Thanks in advance.

Evening91

I have read about some ADHD medications lowering a person's seizure threshold, so if you are taking any you could ask your doctor about that.  A good sleeping schedule would be helpful, along with diet and exercise.  Sometimes that is hard to follow since most of us have busy lives! 

From what I have read or heard, valproate can have some nasty side effects.  Medicines are different for everyone, but you have options.  It is kind of weighing the risks vs. benefits in these situations...but epilepsy can be hard to handle on your own!

Hope you feel better soon, I have tonic clonic seizures while sleeping/sleep deprived/ or soon after waking. 

seizet...

hey there im alicia i have siezures/epilepsy since i was a child or should i say it started wen i was seven i am now 25 and at times hav them still there are ppl that have them for so long then they will go away  some ppl that hav them the rest of thier life., wen it comes to you havin these episode's and feelin how you do wen it  comes to the hearin i will tell u that i hav it as well and always hav min it sounds like im next to a person then they get farther and farther awayand my ears start throbing as well as aringing noise but its like it all happend at one time.wen it comes to the part about you not bein able to say nothin wen u sain u kno u tried i  think thats just normal cuz of the fact i have as well gone thu it u think about wat your trying to say and its not happenin' wen it comes to ur eyes thats i believe from wat my doc. said watever part of ur brain functions ur eyes is havin the siezure, i think that cuz u are goin to bed and that is wen u are havin them u kno thats wen u hav u dreams and ur body rest's, well wen you dream your brain is most active so then is wen most ppl hav thiere siezres i dnt kno if u hav thought of that but it is very possible  alicia e.k.

aek1985

Thanks a lot for your reply, Alicia.
I guess what I need to do is go to a doctor to look it up. :)

Evening91

its no problem at all i hav lived with it prety much all my life and still goin i am told by this person and tha i should'nt and cant do cirtain things cuz of my epilepsy but it makes me feel better knoin i dnt let that stand in my way of doin wat i want to in life just kno wen to stop and not go overboard. also let myself kno just cuz of it i am no dif than any other person in the world., i my be ok helpin ppl out there with there same problem i hav then i help my self but maybe as i helpin u there is someone out there 4 me :] alicia e.k.

aek1985

Most of my seizures occured when I wasn't getting enough sleep. For some people, seizures can be avoided through enough sleep alone. It all depends on what an individual's seizure threshhold is. In the past I have had to remove any furniture next to my bed as it was a potential point of injury and I woke up with a black eye from what I assume was the result of bumping my eye on the end table during my seizure. I still take medication these days but it is such a small amount with virtually no side effects. But my doctor wants to monitor my liver given I have been taking the same medication for 20 years. If one can get enough exercise and sleep while avoiding medication then they may function better without side effects. And if they do have a seizure there may be times where they will wake up not knowing they had a seizure and just go about their lives due to a rapid recovery. I believe that some anticonvulsants actually make having epilepsy even worse; the side effects can be worse than the treatment itself especially if one is unintentionally overmedicated. And anyone can get a seizure, with or without epilepsy if they don't get enough sleep, eventually.

bleedi...

u say u had ur siezures 20 yrs well then i hav had mine just almost as long as u i hav had mine for 18 yr's now alicia e.k.

aek1985

I suffered from what I now know were seizures during sleep when going through menopause. I would wake up with a feeling of falling, followed by numbness and electric shocks to my head or body. Sometimes feeling weak and shaky for days after. I had never been epileptic and my doctor said he didn't know what it was. Now it has passed (along with other meno symptoms). I was a migraine sufferer (with aura and numbness) for many years, but that seems to have now gone too. I wonder what the link is between the two conditions. At the time I had these seizures I would sleep start/jerk a alot while falling asleep.

caligr...

I have started having seizures while I am sleeping. I am going through perimenepause. I read your comment above and it is exactly what has happened to me.. Even the part about me having migraines.. What did you do to help, may I ask?

Thanks

 

hopesc...

I have started having seizures while I am sleeping. I am going through perimenepause. I read your comment above and it is exactly what has happened to me.. Even the part about me having migraines.. What did you do to help, may I ask?

Thanks

 

hopesc...

I have started having seizures while I am sleeping. I am going through perimenepause. I read your comment above and it is exactly what has happened to me.. Even the part about me having migraines.. What did you do to help, may I ask?

Thanks

 

hopesc...

  I myself have that problem in my sleep at times I kno that it will be comin' on but i get strange feelings alot but yet there are times i dnt kno.

  I can not speak I try to call my mother but am not able I some times can not hear I hav had real bad ones as well as I see u hav.I see u say that you drink while  bein on the meds, thats gonna make it just  not be able to work. that is why if I drink I do it not very often and not alot.

  I used to do the same thing as a kid and not want to take my meds so I would ditch them and then they got realy out of control, and that is wat is goin on with you. ur bod gets used to the help and once it dnt hav it ,it goes crazy.... 

  I was diagnosed wen I was 7 yr's 11 mo's  and will be 25 this yr alot of the stuff u are tellin me about I have gone and done. BUT  cuz of that fact and u needin help /answers I am happy to be here to tell you somethin if it helps you.

  I go by aek1985 if u wish to see my pg as well.... and if you need anything or just wish to speak hit me up  alicia e.k.

aek1985

At least 99% of my seizures occur during sleep.  For the last 5 years, anyway.  Are you conscious during yours?  If you are, and you find them painful (as I do), express this to your doctor, because it can make your situation worse.

Consciousness aside, you will not get a good night's sleep every night unless you are on a drug that works well with you.  I only recently found a drug like this, and I've been sleeping better than I have in the last 5 years.  I still have about 12 small seizures/week (all at night) but it's better than the 30 I was having previously.  So that is your step one.

Correction: Your step one is to ditch the alcohol and drugs.  Not that I am an amazing role model, but I do make it very occasional.  This will help.

Also, don't know your climate, but make sure you're not too cold and you're well-fed.  Any weakening of the body makes you more susceptible to seizures.

Let me know how it goes! (kelly.ella.hall@gmail.com)

Kelter

Hey Kelter, I have a son with e and a picky eater at that. I hadn't thought until you said that about being well fed and warm that it could contribute to his seizures at night. Thanks

Addibaby

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