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TAKE CONTROL TODAYHI to the other women.
I would be very interested to know whether other women have increased risk of seizures around certain times of the menstrual cycle....and any ways that others try to manage this...
For me, I am much more likely to have a seizure in the week before I menstruate. This is partly because my sleep in poorer also at that time, and because I get more cranky, therefore more stressed etc.
I try to make sure that I don't put additional demands on myself at that time- just sleeping regularly, exercising and eating ok, as well as letting myself cry if I need to! My husband is fantastic and I can just let him know that I am 'off' and need a cry and he gives me a hug. he knows not to get too worried coz I will be ok :-) I have also found that taking fish oil tablets helps.
Just for info, I have temporal lobe epilepsy, with tonic clonic and little seizures, which I call "fuzzies" (buzzing in my ears, weird noises, feels like everyone is speaking another language). Obviously the area affected by my epilepsy is therefore associated with my language area. Have recently looked into surgery options but because of the location of my seizures, we are trying again with meds and lifestyle managements.
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Name: Women and epilepsy
Since: Apr 10, 2008
About the Group:
Women can deal with epilepsy in a different aspect than men. When it comes to the start of puberty to when menopase occurs. There are a numerous amount of effects that women can have due to hormones and becaus of childbearing. Due to this I wanted to start a group to talk and get to know other people with the same seizure and if when it comes to certian subjects you can get a second opinion. Overall one will be able to converse and find out information that can help medically and socially.

Recent Comments on this Discussion
Hi Girls, I have had epilepsy since I was about 14 and for years didn’t link it to my hormones. I usually get simple or complex partials and the only 2 generalised seizures I have ever had were when I was ovulating. For the past 3 years I am getting a different type of attack each month in the days after my period. My knees feel weak, I sometimes have tension all down one side and I get severe mood swings, e.g. crying for an hour then hyper for an hour. The effects can last for up to 3 or 4 days, It’s horrible. Local doctors just don’t understand. I am not depressed because I have far too much to live for. I am a gifted teacher and a talented musician helping other people. The first time it happened, I was weak at the knees, went to my hospitals A&E ward over a holiday weekend. The doctor didn’t understand my symptoms and sent me to a psychiatric ward. This did give me a panic attack but luckily the doctor at the next hospital understood what epilepsy was, gave me the correct tablets and sent me home. I was so so glad to read other women’s stories on this website and to know that I am not going crazy. . Have any of you found any add on medications that are helpful with catamenial seizures. Thanks everyone. It’s hard sometimes but we can do it.
hi my name is carolyn and ive had 5 seizures in the last week. i am also menstrating. i dont know if they have anything to do with eachother or not, but i recently started a drug called nuerontin. i found that when i missed a dose i had a seizure. im pretty sure they are tonic clonic seizures. what should i do? i also always lose conciousness.
Hey there, I am new to the forum but not new to epilepsy. I had my 1st
seizure at age 15 (passed out for that one.) I am now 32 & All
seizures after the initial one I have not passed out. However it wasn't
long afterward that I realized my seizures came with my periods. After
speaking with my neurologist at the time, he placed me on meds but that
was it.
My cycle is irregular so it was a wait game.... will I or won't I this
month. I began to keep track of when the seizures came & at first
they were more after my cycle. The next time I saw my neurologist I told
him what I had discovered & he finally gave me a name to these
things. I had Catamenial Epilepsy, however he had no experience with
these types of seizures.
To this day I usually have 3 or 4 a year, the seizures I discovered come
about 9 days prior to the beginning & anywhere in between up to 9
days after my cycle ends. My neurologist has okayed me to take extra meds
during this time. Through the yrs though I have developed miagraines as
well. So far I'm still at only 3 or 4 seizures a year. I hope to stay
that way.
~ Shanna
I know this post was added two years ago, but I was amazed to stumble across it and realize I wasn't alone.
The first time I remember having "issues" with what turned out to be seizures was in my 20s (I'm in my 40s now). I didn't realize that I was having some kind of absence seizure...or possibly what Theresia described as "tonic-clonic" seizures. I'd be unable to finish what I was in the middle of doing...and my "fuzzies" I called "brain fog" which I chalked up to some kind of migraine or just being overtired. It manifested itself as the inability to complete a spoken sentence (the reply formed in my head but would disconnect before I could get it out - this is bad considering I was a broadcaster at the time, lol) and difficulty following a conversation. I never said anything to any of my doctors (PCP, obgyn, or endocrinologist) since it seemed so intermittent to me. I was in my 30s when I figured out that migraines and the brain fog tended to occur about 3 days before my period. Again, I chalked it up to migraines and fatigue and hormones and did nothing.
My wakeup call came last fall when the "brain fog" became a black out. I lost consciousness at a conference about 180 miles from home. I was out for several minutes and it was apparently a petit mal seizure. A whole battery of tests later, including a sleep deprivation EEG, led us to the diagnosis of "epilepsy, unspecified, intractable." I started on Keppra first but it didn't help much - I still felt mildly disconnected once a month and tired. So we switched to Depakote ER. While I've noticed some coordination issues, a lost ability to "multitask" and organize, and a slight loss of energy...overall, I feel close to "normal" and I'm finding workarounds for the side effects.
I know now that lack of sleep contributes to the problem for me in a big way...so my days of being uber-working-mom on four hours of sleep are done, lol. I have to get at least six - eight is better - and when my body says, "Dude, lay down" I do it.
YES!!! YES!!!!! EXACTLY!!! The fuzzies, thats the word. And I must sleep. I must listen very carefully to me or I will pay for it in public or private, epilepsy has no respect for your dignity or how much pride you take in juggling a thousand balls in the air at once. I'm tonic clonic too. I am or should I say I was an English Literature teacher. I forget words sometimes right as I'm forming them in my mouth, the word is gone. I don't remember a word on my lips. Conversations can be more trouble than they are worth. Fatigue, I'm mentally tired of being tired. It's draining. Getting on my old step trainer, HA HA, I have three feet it seems and I stumble around. Even walking, I'm a little goofy. I catch the toe of my sneaker on the ground.
I'm 42 years old and I feel ancient at times. I ask my neuro each time I go "Am I suffering dementia?". The answer is "No, you JUST have epilepsy." The meds control it less with each period and instead of having less periods with age, mine have gotten closer together and I go for around nine spotty days leaving very few days a month for me to simply be me. I don't even remember me. I occassionally day dream about some girl I think was me. I have begged, "Just jerk every female organ out of me. Go ahead and do it!!" The answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT. And rightfully so, I suppose. I agree with my doctors, the risks of hormone therapy outway the benefits. They tell me it will get better eventually but I have suffered since I was 27. Each year makes me wish it was last year.
I want it to stop. I pray. I beg. I cry. Oh, well. It's just another day I'll spend in my home, the too young 'shut in' wishing her day away.
This is in reply to Theresia, Elizibeth and Yeahright,
It seems like all three of you are talking to me!!! I am new to this epilipsy business. After a lifetime of being relatively healthy (overweight until I lost my weight) I had my one and only gran mal seizure (I hope to the Lord I don't jinx myself by saying this). I have seizures while I sleep and whaile I'm awake that sound exactly like those that all three of you descibe.
I have another question that I have been trying to find an answer to. Now that I have been diagnosed, I am looking back at my behavior prior to my gran mal and as I was growing up. One of the big things that comes to mind is mood swings. I know migrain have to do with the seizures but irratability, anxiaty, and paranoid about the smallest things. At one time my doctor put me on prozac but after my gran mal, when my neurologist realized I was taking it, he order me to stop taking it saying that in no way was I a personality that should be on it. So does any one know if mood swings have to do with seizures? I was not diagnosed with siezures at that time so I had taken no medication. not even the prozac.
I suffered from frequent myoclonic breakthroughs during the 2 weeks prios to onset and for a few days after. Mind you I am 41, perimenopausal, and suffering from severe PMDD. I finally decided to have a hysterectomy...mainly due to the PMDD versus the seizures. I have one daughter and wasn't planning on having more. It was the best thing I ever did. I don't recommend it for everyone without serious consideration. I no longer have myoclonic breakthroughs because my hormones are at a consistent level all the time and the PMDD went with it. However, I more sensitive to seizure triggers....lack of sleep, etc and have suffered from 4 grand mals in the past 2 months (before this I've only had 4 grand mals from age 5 until now ) probably due to lack of sleep related to a shoulder injury. That has been incredibly scarey but I seem to be responding well to the addition of lamictal. It's a bit early to tell and I'm doing everything I can to prevent them. Most people would think I'm crazy to say this but I would honestly still have the hysterectomy...my quality of life has greatly increased overall and I'm confident that my current condition will brought under control.
Hi, I have absence and grand mal seizures. I began having absence seizures at age 11 and continued through adulthood not knowing/understanding what they were. I had a grand mal 7 years ago at the age of 32. I was put on Trileptal and Tegretol but still had several absence seizures a month. I started having issues with low blood sodium (rare side effect of Trileptal) so I was switched to Lamictal and Gabitril both caused horrible side effects including a grand mal seizure. I then decided to switch neuros and found out that Trileptal isn't even used to treat the type of seizures I had been diagnosed with in the first place! My new (current) neuro put me on 1000mg Keppra and pretty much immediately I had great seizure control for the first time in my life.
All was going well for 2 years seizure-wise but I continued to have pmdd issues. I had decided to have a complete hysterectomy in order to relieve all of the hormonal issues I had had for so many years. I ended up having a grand mal for the first time in 2 years. My neuro gave me the ok to go ahead with my surgery and he increased my Keprra to 1500mg/day. My Keppra levels were checked and found to be 12...normal range is 5-30 but neuro said when it is on the low end it can fall off and lower seizure thresholds when a exposed to a trigger (stress, lack of sleep). I had them rechecked a month later and it was 29. I thought all was well.
I started estrogen replacement therapy a couple of weeks after my surger in mid-May and have had to switch from a spray to a gel (both transdermal and not processed by the liver).
All was well until last week. I had another grand mal. I injured myself this time...smashed my face up on my desk. 911 was called and I was taken to the ER. They checked my Keppra levels and they were 13.8! Now I know why I had a seizure, but I have no idea why my levels were so low when just 2 months ago they were really good.
He increased my nightly dose by another 375 mg/night so I am taking 1875mg/day. I have to wait until the 19th to see my neuro.
Could the estrogen gel be causing absorption problems? Could my drinking 4 drinks in a 6 hour time period (took my Keppra within this 6 hour period) cause absorption issues?
Thanks,
Kelly
Kelly, does you Neurologist know that you are taking estrogen? Estrogen is the BAD hormone for epileptics!! Most women that have seizures around their menstrual cycle, like myself, have them because the estrogen level is higher. I have to take Progestrone a week before I start my period to help control the seizures. Sometimes it does the job, sometimes it doesn't. But I know one thing, by your taking estrogen, it isn't helping you at all!! If you look up epilepsy and hormones, you will find that they call estrogen the "bad" hormone for those of us with seizures!! Talk to your doctor about this soon. He should know this.
God bless,
Laura
Yes Thats when I have mine mainly is during the cycle so my doctor gave me medication called diamox to take before I start monthly during and right after. It is because our ostrogen goes all wacky lol An thats where the medication I was given has helped me not always cause I dont always start on same time.
As far as taking birth control my doctor got mad the obgyn doctor I had put me on them it almost killed me. Because it can lower the medication we are on even interact with epilepsy medications.
Yep...birth control is not good for epileptic. I tried them, but it made me have way more seizures. I had to depend on condoms. Scary, but it took care of that problem. I'm not even sexually active now, so don't have to worry about that. :) LOL!!
Yep...birth control is not good for epileptic. I tried them, but it made me have way more seizures. I had to depend on condoms. Scary, but it took care of that problem. I'm not even sexually active now, so don't have to worry about that. :) LOL!!
prior to my cycle i exp 1-3 complex partials, after my cycle, i may exp a 3 day moment ..usually my episodes occur same time of day and i get a warning... im guessing its all ormonal and possibly due to blood loss,,fortunately, i manage to work around my spells but at times find myself unable to..i dont drive due to my cycle and its effect on me..i also manage scool around it as well. its not fun but adaptable. im looking at surgery to aid me in some control ...good luck in your readings and well being babzy
Women definitely have an increased risk of seizures before, during or after their cycle if they are having Catamenials. They must be 2-3 days before or after or anytime during. It can be whatever type of seizure you have. Catamenial refers to the timing of the seizure. You can do some research online, I did plenty when I was dealing with them. There are ways to treat them and get them under control ! You need an OB/GYN to work with your Neurologist. Sometimes you just need a birth control pill or some other hormonal medicine to control Catamenials. It took more than meds to control mine, but you have to try some meds to find out.
Ibuprofen is not going to do a thing to help you control hormonal seizures. You need a good Neurologist and an OB/GYN to work together to help you out. Document your cycles and your seizures. Do some research onilne for Catamenials, take it with you and be sure you read up on it so you can talk about it with your doctors. The birth control pills can help and there are other things that can help too.
I always have my grand mal seizures a week before, during, or a week after my cycle. The reason because I have bad cramps and I am so irritable, so i am really stress ( my bod is stressed). I have had seizures for 10 to 11 years and it has always been that way. My doctor has given me nothing before but my doctor has given me some ibuprofen but it hasn't helped. Nothing helps because I have some serious cramps and always had.
Hi everyone,
I've got great news to spread. For as long as I've had seizures they've been hormonally related.
Estrogen excites, progesterone 'protects' is the way I think of it.
I've seen that my seizures are most likely to occur on day 15-22 of my cycle. (first day of my period being day 1.) I reported this time and again to the (female) neurologist I used to see. She wouldn't listen to any of it. My seizures were resistant to meds she reasoned, "because my head injury was so serious." She increased my dosages and added another medicine.
I finally have a neurologist who listens to me and did his own research. He was just in from Johns Hopkins and I got lucky by catching him when he was on call. They've made him the Director since his arrival. I DID get very lucky!
told him (on the phone) about my seizures and when they were likely to occur. He listened, he was familiar with what I was talking about. He was interested. I made an appointment with him. He spent an hour with me and then did research. He told me to give him four weeks.
That was several months ago, maybe six. With some research he found that the progesterone supplement that I had had to beg for prometrium, was not absorbed by my body. The progesterone must be compounded specially.
There are many compounding pharmacies but I order my compounded progesterone from Freedom Pharmacy in Massachusetts. It might be Freedom fertility pharmacy I don't know. I'm decreasing the amount of meds I take. I was on Lamictal, the other neurologist added Trileptal which I've never liked. With the help of the compounded progesterone I'm down from 600 mg/day of Trileptal to 150 mg. I'll be off it altogether soon.
I'm so happy to spread good news Ladies, go get some compounded progesterone lozenges. They taste awful but they work!
Nancy B.
Hi Nancy, my daughter is just starting on the bioidentical progesterone cream compounded by a pharmacist. Are you still using it? How are you doing with your seizures? Any info is appreciated.
Diane
That sounds really interesting. It sounds like what I would need I would like to get some more information on those compounded progesterone if possible. I also get some kind of funny feelings inside my ear around my period, along with tingling down my left arm. I have had brain surgery so I am hopeful that maybe these will go away in time. I am taking Keppra, Topamax, and Zonegran. I was wondering if I was to take this compouded progesterone would that affect anything with having a baby? I am 27 and I am very eager to start thinking about that, because I know having a baby isnt so easy living with the big E. Thats what concerns me the most, because I want to have a baby more then anything in the world, and a healthy one most importantly. Well best of luck to you and so happy to hear that your meds are decreasing. good for you! Any info you could give me I would really appreciate it. Thanks alot, mitsybitsy
I know this is a year later, but did you find information on the progesterone hormone? I am taking this hormone. I was first taking in by pill, but it didn't work very well. Now I am taking it (no fun) in my vagina. It is not painful at all though. I just felt a little weird at first, but you get used to it. They give you a tool that looks a tampon, but with an opening at the top to put the actual medication, called Prometrium. It works just like a tampon, but when you put this in, the medicine will dissolve a lot faster in your system than a pill. As you doctor about it, or you can email me at gallaugherl@yahoo.com I would love to help anyone I can. I know how frustrating it is to deal with this. I am wondering if the seizures will stop or slow down when I go through menopause. Also, talk to your gyno about it. MINE was the one that recommended it to me because he knew of the seizures. My nero wasn't for it at first, but he finally agreed. It helps a lot, but I still have breakthroughs. I have never been able to get my seizures under total control. This is soooooo frustrating too. Thank God that most of mine are when I am sleeping or when I first wake up. I also have aura's as a warning. I have even had surgery and have a vagus nerve inplant put it. I still have it, and having the magnet handy has help control the seizures. The magnet is used to turn the power UP when I have an aura. But, it hasn't been able to control them totally either. Don't know what else to do. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING. They cannot do surgery to remove the area in my brain that cause the seizures due to the fact that they seizures come from too many different areas. The thing I hate most about the seizures is the BAD MEMORY. I have always been very bright and smart, but my memory is horrible. I cannot remember movies that I watch like 2 months prior. I am going back to college right now to get my CPA, and am so worried that I will not remember anything that I learn. I am just depending on God to help me. I told myself that if it is His will for me to be a CPA, He will get me through this. I have gotten two A's so far, but have 8 more classes to go. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADVICE TO HELP ME WITH MY MEMORY PROBLEM? If so, please let me know! Thanks, and God bless you all. Hope this was a help to you!
Laura, Texas, 38 yrs old.
Partial complex seizures
GreenGrapes008
I get this tingly feeling in my ear and arm too around my period too! Its awful. I take Zonegran, Keppra, Depakote (formerly on Topamax). I take Diamox two weeks out of the month around my period for catamenial (sp?) seizures. I find this pill helps. I've never heard of compounded progesterone, but have also been taking Vitamin B's and they help with thinking.
Good luck to you.
Hi Ladies. I am not a woman but a concerned Father of a 21year old daughter that has seen her seizure activity increase in the last 18 months. We have been the rounds of several neurologists and changing meds with increased dosages. I have spent several nights and multiple hours researching epilepsy,hormones, and also the link of foods to seizures. I would encourage all of you to consider going to www.dogtorj.com, www.neuroendocrinology.com, and www.raypeat.com. To summarize due to gluten, casein from from cow milk, soy and MSG we are bombarded with estrogen which creates or exacerbates the estrogen/progesterone imbalance that can trigger seizures. The dogtorj website is a vet that has stopped seizures in 100% of his animals by removing gluten and casein from their diets. We are having our daughter's hormones tested soon to check for imbalances and hope to clean that up and reduce her med level by addding hormone therapy. Ken
Does anyone know any particular drugs or treatment to combat Catamenials?
I have temporal lobe epilepsy due to a benign brain tumor that has been removed a year ago and now my siezures seem to fit the description of catamenial epilepsy - monthly painful partial seizures where I feel like i'm in another world, see things and feel like everyone speaks a different language.
I am used to having the seizures (it's been 10 years, I'm 28) but I am on keppra and lamictal and that doesn't work, although my grand mal seizures have stopped. I am also trying out herbs and accupuncture. I'm also growing out my hair :)
Oi! This stuff keeps you busy!!!
Hi
I had PMS, and bad Menopause, fuzzies, weird noises, It is much better now that I am on HRT's. My headaches and weird noises started in my mid-30's. Worst headaches until recently were from my mid-30's to when I went on HRT's. Everything became better then. I found myself staying away from sage. I also took Siberian Ginseng for headaches, and went on a high fat diet, many fish. I still was a grumpy bear with PMS. My husband was great about it - when it really became bad he took me to see my doctor. Hormones can affect your E, just find out what relaxes you.
CG
Hi theresa i had that same problem for a while why do u think we get them more often than when were not and by the way Im a new member and Im taking keppra 500mg twice a day and lamictal 200mg twice a day also thank you.
Sounds like it could be hormonal/Catamenial seizures. Usually they are real close to your cycle...like a couple of days before or after or during, but if you are consistent, might be the same thing. Try keeping track every month, there is info online about Catamenials, see what you think.
I've been there for several years. I know how crazy it can be.
Hello, Oh I have always noticed increased seizure activity when it my time of the month. As a matter of fact that is when my first seizure happened. Back when I was 13.
And Yes, the mood swings are horrible, as well as the headache I get. Unfortunately, mine can come the day before, during or on the last day. Lucky me!
Recently though, I have noticed that if I have sex, it gets worse. What's up with that?
It is making me crazy, and I am wondering if anybody has any answers. I try to avoid stress, and such, I guess I will just have to not fool around during that time. Because I am getting tired of being stuck on the couch, for a day or two, just to make certain I dont have a full blown seizure.
Anybody else have this problem?
I do have this same problem. I have seizures before, during or after my period as well.
It is very frustruating and scary because you don't know when you are going to be having one.
I am taking Lamictal and that wasnt working, so I suggested spoke to a gynocologist and asked them if they treat women with epilipsy and put them on hormones to regulate the seizures. The doctor explained that during your period your hormones are CRAZY up and down and that is what starts the seizures. The progesterone and the estrogen need to be even. The doctor said the birth control would do that.
They put me on Yazmin to even out my hormones, so far there has not been much difference. So last week I went to the doctor again and told him that I am still having seizures. He put me on a higher dose of birth control, Femcon Fe. Hopefully that works. It takes about 2 weeks to get into your blood.
I have an appt to see a woman neurologist who works specifically with women and epilepsy. Hopefully she can help more. Plus she is a woman and could probably sympathize more with what is going on.
Have you learned anything since you last wrote??
i have the same problem i will have seizuers the first or seconed day of my period. it really sucks. they last all day long. i need to sit in the chair get help to the bathroom, i understand what you talking about and it stinks.:(
Haven't learnt anything official (i.e. from docs or neurologists) about this, but I have had to change my pill because of changed AED - and the pill has extra oestrogen in it- which from other comments on here doesn't sound promising! I will check it out some more. Might contact my ex-GP who was more receptive to the concept to start with.
Not really anything positive happening at the moment with the epilepsy- unfortunately it's all having a bigger impact on our lives, but we are, of course, looking into everything, and making other, more positive changes to our lives (e.g. less work, more 'play' wherever possible).
Hope everyone else is going well!
Hopefully those birth control pills help you out. Sounds like your new Neurologist could be awesome ! If she specializes with women who have epilepsy I would think she's familiar with Catamenials and things to do to treat them.
Good Luck !
Hi there, women any age can be affected that way. It can happen a few days before or after your cycle or during your cycle. It can happen to any woman, age does not matter. It happens to women who have never had epilepsy even if they have been pregnant. It's thanks to our hormones. It's called Catamenials and you can find info online. I was struggling with it when I was 40, that was 8 years ago now. It took a while to figure out how to take care of mine, some women can take care of theirs very easy, not all of them.
Hi I also have seizure activity/migranes the week before my period or the week after. my first seizure was when I started going through puberty at age 11! Although for me, it seems that my periods have gotten more painfull in the past few yrs, but my seizures have gotten more under controll! how weird is that! I would rather have a emotional and painful period, than a seizure, thats for sure! I have only had one gran mal seizure in the past 3 yrs! I just have warnings and aura's .