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IloveH...
IloveH...

Epilepsy and Celiac Disease

Hi!

Is there anyone out there who has both Epilepsy and Celiac Disease?

I was diagnosed with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy and Frontal Lobe Epilepsy approximately two months ago and was diagnosed with Celiac Disease only yesterday.

I have never met anyone with Celiac Disease before and was just wondering if there is anyone out there who has Celiac Disease and knows more about it?

Thanks! :)

By IloveH... at Tue, 11/21/2006 - 12:05pm | 2630 views | 27 comments
Topic: Teen Group

Recent Comments on this Discussion

My 12-year old daughter has celiac disease and temporal lobe epilepsy (for 3 years). Her partial seizures in the left temporal lobe are actually a symptom of celiac disease. She does not take any medication. When she is gluten free (and dairy free - common for celiacs to have dairy problems at lease intially), she is seizure free. You can enjoy eating and eat a lot of foods -- but it is a learning process that is continual! It can be tough especially when you want to eat out or at a friends house. Hang in there --

celiac...

My son is 9 yrs next week. He has been constipated nearly all his life and we have finally found a naturopath who is helping us clear up his digestive system.....allergic to all things wheat/gluten, dairy, eggs, garlic, vanilla, and many less significant. Doc believes he has celiac, but we won't test it now, but treat it.

Interestingly, he started having seizures last Feb (had them before that, but we didn't know) and I asked the neuro if its related to his digestive problems. All I got was a shoulder shrug, but our instinct tells me its totally related.

Now I find this Meridian Institute (distributes info from the late Edgar Cayce) and this place says they are totally related. The theory is that the gut malfunctions and the energy is misdirected to the brain (or something like that).

I would appreciate emailing with you if you have time.

Karen : )

Mahkah...

Hi Karen!

Forgive me for replying so late, but I have been pretty ill! :(

Do you still want to e-mail me?

I turned seventeen on 25th September.

I am allergic to:

*Gluten
*Seafood
*Fish
*Peanuts
*Pistachio Nuts
*Onions
*Garlic
*Dairy
*Egg Whites
*Kiwi Fruit
*Avocado Pears
*Yeast
*Sulphur Dioxide
*M.S.G.

Keep well! :)

IloveH...

I just found out and I am allergic to milk and my dad has Celiac Disease!  thanks for your note!  My focus is on the left temporal and left occipital! Celliac now makes sense the GI doctor laughed at me and said think of your father and I told her your have a good point and then think of your sister!  Oh but she never had symptoms until she turned 60!  I have had since I have had my kids! 

tonialpha

I am 25 and i've had temporal lobe epilepsy for seven years now. I am have never been tested for celiac disease but I am currently on a gluten free diet, which I think has helped with the siezures and has definitely made me feel a lot better. I started the diet when my best friend was diagnosed with celiac a few years ago, but only religiously on it for about a year. I made the decision to go on it following my intuition and advice from a few "alternative" healers (acupuncture, chinese herbalist and Body Talk). A gluten free diet is one of those all or nothing things, even if you have a single beer it can screw you up for a few weeks! From what I understand celiac is a digestive disease that inhibits certain nutrients to be absorbed in the digestive tract, so when you eat something that is not gluten free it can block the rest of the food you eat from being absorbed properly. For the brain to function properly, it needs essential vitamins and minerals that we get from food. if the digestion is not working properly and these nutrients aren't being absorbed, the brain doesn't function to its potential. this leads me to believe that there is a correlation between celiac and epilepsy. If someone is not absorbing vitamin b12 and folic acid, for example (2 major nutrients in brain function), then a seizure may very well be a possibility. I have searched and had a hard time finding any scientific evidence for this correlation, but my gut feeling tells me celiac and epilepsy they are related. By no means do I mean that everyone with epilepsy has a digestive disorder or the other way around, but I think in some cases the failure of the body to absorb essential nutrients may lead to having a seizure. My seizures are few and far between but I think the gluten free diet is definitely helping me. When I was diagnosed in high school I was working at a pizza joint, eating too much pizza. after a few more years and a few more seizures i decided to do the gf diet. I was feeling great and decided to try it without medication. this went well for about 6 months then i went home for christmas and ate my moms cooking (delicious but not gluten free) and had some drinks, which I wasn't before. surprise surprise, a week after returning I had a seizure. now I am on trileptal and the gf diet and so far seizure free. Sorry this is so long but I thought I could share some info and i hope it helps. There are some great recipies for gluten free. I reccommend corn noodles if you like pasta. I wish you luck on your search and discovery of new information and I am looking forward to what others can share, this is an exciting topic and one I expect to see some scientific studies on in the very near future! With Love, JWW.

JWW17

Am I right , that celiac disease is a form of digestive disease? But, why doest it has something to do with epilepsy?

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izza301

Thank you for your comment!  My friends are noting I am having more energy.  My doctor put me on B complex and reg vit. daily along w/ calcium w/ D.    She gave me a cholesterol medication.  It is great for diarrhea!  I do not have it anymore!  I have an upper GI tommorow.  My seizures are a little funny but they are shorter because I do not have diarrhea!  Yea!  She feels it is celiac and it will be time.  Hopefully I can say she is right!

tonialpha

I would love to find out any additional information you have. My 6 year old was diagnosed with epilepsy this past year. Likewise, preliminary blood tests are leaning toward him having celiac as well. We go for further testing in the coming weeks. I would love to stay posted on this.

TBaker

hey im a teen w epilepsy and ciliac disease!!!! i was diagnosed w epilepsy at age 6 and only about a month ago diagnosed with ciliacs. its tough to change my diet and caused a miniature seizure but things are going well and im sure you will adjust fine.

hopeculli

Hi!

Thanks so much! :)

I am so pleased to find someone else who has both Epilespy and Celiac Disease (I'm not pleased that you have it, but just happy that I am not alone! ;) )

It's so hard to change one's diet! :( I loved my oats and my pastries! It's awful to be at a party or a sleepover and not be able to eat pizza or cake, etc.!

Aparently, there is a link between Epilepsy and Celiac Disease. Have you heard anything about that at all?

Good luck with the delightful gluten-free diet! ;)

IloveH...

Links between celiac disease and seizures has been reported, but not a lot is known. I have seen some people's seizures do better when the GI problem is treated, but others don't. Also, solid studies looking at dietary treatment of this are lacking. One connection that we do know about - the absorption of medicines will be affected in people with celiac disease or other malaborsorption problems, thus seizure medicines need to be carefully monitored.

It's important to make sure that they GI and epilepsy doctors both know about the problems.

Epi_help

epi_help

interesting...this whole discussion is very interesting to me.  I was diagnosed at age 16 years; on meds now for 24 years...concerned about the long term effect of the meds and I would prefer to address my epilepsy with diet rather than medications.

even if there is no possibility of "healing" my epilepsy there may be the chance (because of malabsorption) of decreasing my meds which would be a great consolation prize.

 

lisela...

you cannot have anything w soy or gluton in it btw, and look out for bullion cubes, i dont know exactly how thats spelled. and watch out for sauces on meats and other things, also dressings and make sure your meat and other things from restaurants arent cooked in the same pan as something with wheat in it!!!

hopeculli

My wife is epileptic, taking Carbamazepine (600mgs a day), and she was recently diagnosed with celiac disease.

She has found that a large change in diet was not as difficult as she thought it might be. There are lots of cookbooks with gluten-free cooking recipies, and LOTS of options for what to eat that do no include gluten at all. Hopefully you like asian food, and salads. My wife eats lots of salads, and fresh vegetables, rice, potatoes, and fruit. You'll be able to eat a healthy diet without all the breads and other foods with gluten. Search online, and you can find gluten-free recipies for just about anything. Try using alternate flours like rice flour, soy flour, or potato flour. We've had pies, cookies, and breads that are gluten-free. You don't have to do without noodles, Try asian food stores, as they have lots of rice noodles, and other rice based products. Hope you can find new alternatives for foods that you can eat. Good luck.

epilep...

Hi ILlove. I don't personaly have celiacs but my father in-law did so I do know some. I was on a hunt for recipes for him because he realy was'nt enjoying much of the permitted food. I may be able to help you in that area. I have a question though. What type of meds are you taking? Post a little note on your blog. Enjoy your time here and I hope this helps a little. Smiles!

Colina

My daughter has just turned 4 and has been diagnosed with epilepcy.  She was a formula baby and it never agreed with her.  I was hoping it would just go away.  but now its worse than ever. (post nasal drip, tummy issues, milk cravings, lives for chocolate etc...) I am having her tested (bloods) this afternoon for celiac disease and if its a yes. I know that it had something to do with her having epilepcy.  Ps.. Lancet has published a medical journal linking epilepcy and celiac disease.

Regards

DiDubai

There's some excellent info at www.celiac.com, including a forum where you can get lots of information from others with Celiac and gluten intolerance (yes, they're two different things), as well as other food issues.  It's a great place for asking all kinds of questions, finding sources for gluten-free foods, and recipes.  There's even  sections for teens and for parents of kids with Celiac.

One of the best features of the site is that it has listings of foods where gluten is "hidden".  This is invaluable for avoiding getting glutened.  There are also restaurant guides.

Good luck and, hopefully, your new diet will help cut down or eliminate your seizures.

confuzzed

I have had epilepsy since I was 6 years old.  My first episode occurred after eating three large plates of Spaghetti.  I have had many symptoms over the years that suggest I have gluten intolerence.  I have rashes that are symmetrical in nature.  The rash will occur on both buttocks, on both wrists, arms, hands or ankles. The rash will last for years and then mysteriously go away. I have pimples showing up on my stomach, I have blockages in 4 different arteries.  When I was younger I had heart arrhythmia.  I have short term memory issues and drowsiness issues.  Before I went on a gluten free diet, I had alternating diarrhea and constipation, watery stools, bloating of the stomach, flatulence, low energy levels, incontinence, weight gain, allergic sneezing reactions to many foods, but it doesn't occur until hours after I eat.  My epilepsy is far better controlled when I am on a gluten free diet.  I lost 25 lbs over a period of 18 months on a gluten free diet. 

Tips for buying groceries for people with gluten intolerance.

 Keep it simple, most anything with one or two ingredients is safe.  Never buy anything that lists artificial flavors, natural flavors, spice, or spices. They are not safe, the manufacturer. Do not buy any cereal unless iti is clearly labeled as gluten free.  Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies both contain wheat.

James_...

My son and I both are gluten intolerant and have always tested negative on any blood tests and biopsies.  However, there is a great Dr. in Texas....Kenneth Fine, MD-gastroenterology.  He has a lab called enterolabs with the latest equipment to test for various food allergies, gluten intolerace, antibodies to gluten and genetics for the disease.  It is all done with stool samples sent via Fed EX to get clear results.  Around $249 if I remember correctly.  Anyone from around the country can order.  Go to www.enterolabs.com for more info.  I have finally gotten answers and don't feel like I am crazy anymore the way most gastro docs will make you feel.  The large majority of them truly do NOT understand this disease or intolerance.....and I believe it is 2 different things if you catch it early.   I positively have "weird" symptoms and illnesses disappear when 100% strict on a gluten free diet and so does my son.  We found out about our intolerance back in 2006 (however had been on the search for 10 years), when this post was started.  However, in July 2009, my son started having seizures.  Is this another result/strange illness of our non-compliance to the diet?  Probably!  We had been about 9 months OFF of the diet when he developed seizures.  We have been through ALL sorts of testing and he was having 5-7 complex partials everyday.  We FINALLY found great doctors and help at Wake Forest Univ. Baptist Hosp. in Winston-Salem, NC.  He was originally diagnosed by our local neuro as having epilepsy at night from left temporal lobe and pseudo seizures for his 5 or 6 seizures during the day!!!  How ridiculous since all seizures were IDENTICAL......I knew as a mother and with my own instinct that this diagnosis was not correct and sought out 2nd opinion.  My son was getting worse and seizures controlling his life!  He is only 11 y.o.  We went to the epilepsy monitoring unit at Wake Forest and they found that his diagnosis was completely incorrect.  He has Frontal Lobe Epilepsy, specifically coming from the supplementary motor area and clearly showed on the video EEG that his seizures were not psychogenic in nature, but neurologic.  This type of epilepsy is many times misdiagnosed as PNES or pseudoseizures.....psychogenic in nature.  They started him on IV Depakote (Keppra did not work) and Trileptal.  It is now day 4 and he is seizure free so far!!!!Praise the Lord!  The best part is that our new doctor is willing to look at and study the possibility of gluten intolerance being the cause of his epilepsy and set us up with the pediatric gastro dr. as well!  He does not at all think I am crazy and sent his students to do the research on this subject.  I am so grateful to this facility as they are interested in the wellness of the whole individual.....and that is so hard to find.  I would recommend them highly!

sheilat

I was dianosed with left temporal lobe Complex Partial seizures 11 years ago for unknown causes.  My frequency of seizures ranged from 4-8 per month.  I have tried multiple alternative therapies (acupuncture, chiropracture, homeopathy) because 9 medications and 2 left temoral lobe crainiotomies have been ineffective for the long run.  A few years ago I worked with a homeopath who put me on an elimination diet to place me in a state of Ketosis.  It was pretty much the Atkin's diet without dairy.  I was seizure free for 4 months until as a rebellious teenager I reintroduced the eliminated foods all at once and never discovered the root of the problem.

6 months ago I began to have gas, diarreah, and a return of auras after my second crainiotomy and 2 years seizure free.  I used the books "Healthier Without Wheat" and "The Yeast Connection" to perform another elimination diet.  Both books, written by seperate authors, pointed out food allergies are common causes for seizures/epilepsy as well as many other medical conditions.  Eliminated foods were wheat, soy, dairy, eggs, nuts, shellfish, and yeast for a period of 2 weeks.  You eat a lot of vegetables, fruit, and meat during these 2 weeks.  At the end of the 2 weeks reintroduce each of the eliminated foods one day at a time and notice how you feel that day.  My gas, diarreah, and auras all disappeared during my elimination period.  The day wheat was reintoduced they all returned. 

If you don't want to do an elimination diet for food allergies you can get an IgG, IgA and IgE antibody reaction blood test done by a GI specialist, an allergist, or an internist specializing in food allergies for all of these foods, but especially for glonuin if testing for Celiac.  Do all tests prior to eliminating any foods so a reaction will show up on the tests.  "Healthier Without Wheat" points out you may have an allergy or intolerance to other parts of wheat besides the gluten (allergy to gluten=Celiac's disease) such as the germ or bran (not Celiac disease).  Even if you're not diagnosed with Celiac disease if the elimination diet after the tests helps identify a hidden wheat allergy you should completely avoid all wheat products.

Whole Foods, Wild Oats, Sunflower Markets, and other health food stores have a section of foods totally catering to wheat-free products including breads, pastas, cookies, brownies, cake mixes, and even pancake mixes, so having a wheat intolerance today is not as bad as it may have been 5-10 years ago.   And if it frees you from the physical, mental, and financial bondage epilepsy can be, a change in diet is totally worth any expense, any extra distance to drive to a health food store, and any inconvenience to eliminate wheat and eliminate seizures for life.

celloc...

I know this is a really old thread, but I'm wondering if any of you who posted a comment are still on this board. I was diagnosed with celiac disease 7 months ago, and seizures 3 months later. There HAS to be a connection, however both my neurologist and GI specialist say they've never had patients with both conditions (and therefore presume they are not connected in my case!) Very frustrating. If any of you are still out there, I would really like to here how you are doing, both in terms of the seizures and celiac.

Masterjen

I know this is a really old thread, but I'm wondering if any or you who posted on this still visit this forum. I was diagnosed with celiac disease 7 months ago, and seizures 3 months later. They're got to be related, but my Neurologist and GI specialist have not had patients with both celiac and seizures, so are taking the approach that they are not related! Very frustrating. If any of you are still out there, I'm wondering how you are doing, both in terms of seizures and celiac.

Masterjen

My daughter had her first seizure 3 days before her 17th bday. She was diagnosed with JME and put on Keppra. She has been on a variety of meds and combinations. Is currently on Lyrica and Zonegran. Most weeks she would still have from 2 to 10 episodes a week. Barely made it through high school, but is doing very well her freshman year in college. In addition to the onset of seizures, she started testing positively for rheumatoid arthritis or lupus.

She went on a gluten-free, dairy-free diet and for the first time is more normal than she has been for a very long time. We have not been able to find a doctor who agrees that diet could have contributed to her problems all along. (She showed many signs and symptoms of celiac disease since 18 months of age.) Her follow up blood tests for the rheumatologists came back normal after the diet change.

We really like her current epileptologist who helped her identify the difference between her seizures, episodes, and migraines. However, she is unwilling to consider why she started having seizures and why typical anti-seizure meds haven't always helped.

Her diet change has been the first lifestyle change that has really shown any improvement in her health. The only times she has difficulties now, 2 years after the onset, is when she either accidentally or purposely eats something containing gluten.

I really believe that there is a connection. Any idea how we get medical support and understanding?

Amy Mi...

Hi, sheilat I think I might have the celiac disease because I haven't been tested for it but I think since I have had epilespy I have not been able to get my seizures to stop or even get them under control. I have tried  ever seizure medicine that has come out have had two brian surgerys and I have a vns and nothing has helped. That is why I want to start a gf diet. I am glad it help your son that is why I think it will help me. I have been going to UNC hosiptal for more then 18 years. Can I just go to Wake Forest hospital or does my doctor have to refer me? I hope your son is still doing o.k. Dee-Dee

ddlennon

her tests came back, and she does not have celiac or even a gluten intollerance.  so i guess thats just our lot in life.  i was so hoping to find blame somewhere or even an understanding of why or what causes it.  oh well life goes on. 

DiDubai

The University of Maryland is very actively researching Celiac disease and gluten intolerance.

http://medschool.umaryland.edu/celiac/question.asp

 Gluten Intolerance is all too often misdaignosed or not diagnosed at all.  My doctor's have told me that I have Irritable Bowel Syndrome, but I know that my symptoms mostly go away when I am gluten free. I have many different tests for Celiac and they all come back negative. My experience with doctor's is that they don't understand the disease at all.

James_...