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pdl1
pdl1

Possible cure for absence seizures

I am an MD. My daughter suffered from temporal lobe partial absence seizures from age two. Many medicines helped but none were fully effective.Based on an article on congenital defects in lipid metabolism, I had the flash insight that maybe seizures are related to an inborn ability to form just the right kinds of fatty acids in the brain- since brains are almost entirely formed by conglomerates of proteins and fatty acids.So I started my daughter on Omega-3 fish oil from Costco- two a day. From the day she started the fish oil capsules her seizures stopped. She had been having 2-3 per week, often more.It has now been six months since her last seizure, so I feel confident that there may be merit in this treatment. I don't know how widely it applies in the community, but fish oil seems safe.This is called an "anecdotal report". It is just one case and it is possible that my daughters seizures just happened to disappear the day I began the Omega-3 fish oil.

By pdl1 at Thu, 06/16/2005 - 4:53pm | 16342 views | 135 comments

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My daughter was diagnosed a year ago with seizure disorder and she has been on keppra since.  I have for the most part, purchased most foods organic whenever possible.  She has many many allergies, and I have recently had an allergy test for her that confirmed this.  I never suspected the eggs or potatoes, but when I removed them from her diet, the results where great. She has recently been acting more aggressive and less interactive with other kids and is throwing tantrums more and more often.  I tried the fish oils, but she's allergic to seafood.  I tried the flax and hemp oils and the same.  I'm not sure what kind of a test I can give her, I'm thinking she has a digestive problem, maybe she's not getting the nutrition she needs and its giving her seizures.  Maybe she's lacking an enzyme.  She had very bad colic when she was a baby, and I was breastfeeding her since she was born but didn't know I was eating foods she's allergic to.  Could this have messed up her stomach?  Does anyone have any suggestions on other omega-3 sources? 

 

 

 

Ltorres

My daughter was diagnosed a year ago with seizure disorder and she has been on keppra since.  I have for the most part, purchased most foods organic whenever possible.  She has many many allergies, and I have recently had an allergy test for her that confirmed this.  I never suspected the eggs or potatoes, but when I removed them from her diet, the results where great.  This greatly reduced her seizures.  I tried giving her vitamins, the "allergen-free" kind but she is still allergic to some ingredient in the vitamins, though I can't tell exactly what.  She has recently been acting more aggressive and less interactive with other kids and is throwing tantrums more and more often.  I tried the fish oils, but she's allergic to seafood.  I tried the flax and hemp oils and the same.  I'm not sure what kind of a test I can give her, I'm thinking she has a digestive problem, maybe she's not getting the nutrition she needs and its giving her seizures.  Maybe she's lacking an enzyme.  She had very bad colic when she was a baby, and I was breastfeeding her since she was born but didn't know I was eating foods she's allergic to.  Could this have messed up her stomach?  Does anyone have any suggestions on other omega-3 sources? 

 

 

 

Ltorres

My daughter was diagnosed a year ago with seizure disorder and she has been on keppra since.  I have for the most part, purchased most foods organic whenever possible.  She has many many allergies, and I have recently had an allergy test for her that confirmed this.  I never suspected the eggs or potatoes, but when I removed them from her diet, the results where great.  This greatly reduced her seizures.  I tried giving her vitamins, the "allergen-free" kind but she is still allergic to some ingredient in the vitamins, though I can't tell exactly what.  She has recently been acting more aggressive and less interactive with other kids and is throwing tantrums more and more often.  I tried the fish oils, but she's allergic to seafood.  I tried the flax and hemp oils and the same.  I'm not sure what kind of a test I can give her, I'm thinking she has a digestive problem, maybe she's not getting the nutrition she needs and its giving her seizures.  Maybe she's lacking an enzyme.  She had very bad colic when she was a baby, and I was breastfeeding her since she was born but didn't know I was eating foods she's allergic to.  Could this have messed up her stomach?  Does anyone have any suggestions on other omega-3 sources? 

 

 

 

Ltorres

Greetings everyone,

I have really appreciated the discussion here!

Background: I was recently diagnosed via EEG with genetic generalized absence seizures, which totally suprised me, as I have never blacked out, never get any twitching other than my eyelid (barely even noticable when I look in the mirror myself) and no one has ever noticed anything like that. We origionally thought I had simple partial seizures with olfactory hallucinations and autonomic seizures (weird feeling in my tummy, then get kinda nauseous, yucky perfume smell that isn't there, light headed and dizzy, them I'm A-okay).

Anyway, I have yet to find any information that makes me WANT to take those stupid mind altering and body poisining drugs! I'm looking into homeopathic info- I have a ND as well as my Epileptologist or whatever he's called.

I really value my brain (and it's not all it used to be either!). I'm a mother of a lovely 17 month old girl, and a wife to a wonderful supportive spouse, and I love to study, read, and try and better my mind!
I don't want these to suffer! I'd rather live with my seizures.

I would really appreciate comments on the Absence seizures and whether or not anyone else has info on people NOT blacking out on them.
Also, has anyone really benefitted from the meds? I have liver and kidney issues so they really intimidate me (not to mention bouts of depression).

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your time and consideration (my family does too!)

Amanda

AJBiddle

Hi, I used to take fish oil for high cholesterol, but I stopped taking them a few months ago, after my cholesterol came down.  I was having what seemed like absence seizures maybe two or three times total, thru last year, but this year I've had more in the last few months than I had all last year combined. I will talk to my doctor to see if the Omega 3 will help me, but I don't want it to bring my cholesterol down too low. I'm 57, do you think it will help control the absence seizures in older adults?

davisk...

Fish Oil has been a miracle for me THANKS TO YOUR POST! ABSOLUTELY A MIRACLE! I had a lesion on my right temporal lobe "same situation as you -partial absence seizures- " and I had it taken out a while back. The seizures quit for about 3 years but I had a few start to break through again. I have been on 2 fish oil pills and 600 MGs of Tegretol XR a day and all of my seziures have quit!

They started to break through on the Tegretol alone but as soon as I started the Fish Oil Tablets ALL OF SEIZURES HAVE QUIT! I am 22 years old now and I had my surgery back when I was 18. CAN'T believe how something as simple as fish oil has worked along with my tegretol xr so well. I AM SO HAPPY THAT MY MOTHER READ YOUR POST PDL1 AND SUGGESTED THIS IDEA!

Thanks So Much,
Christopher K

Chirst...

my 1 yr and 8months boy is having convulsion/seizure only if he has a fever.. he was prescribed to take phenobarbital for 1 yr. is it possible to let him drink the omega3??

ayen

Hello,

You have great information on seizures, like the Omega-3 fish oil. I thought I'd also put this in that I found from another site.  Three consecutive days a
week for abdominal castor oil packs, followed by an abdominal and spinal massage
(my job), daily doses of passion flower fusion, weekly spinal adjustments, and the Cayce diet. You can read the whole article here if interested: http://www.cayce.com/HealingEpilepsyByLindaCaputi.htm ...

 

empower

Well, here's another anecdote that supports pdl1's anecdote...

My 10-year-old daughter started getting absence seizures when she was 9, along with periodic excruciating headaches that started/stopped like someone flipped a switch in her brain. Thanks to Wikipedia, I was able to deduce CAE as the probable culprit.

I didn't even want to try the epilepsy drugs -- too many potential side effects, and her symptoms didn't seem severe enough to warrant them. One day I had the random thought that, hey, the kid's allergic to nuts and seeds-- maybe she's deficient in fatty acids, and that's why she's getting the seizures. So I started her on 1 tsp of pharmaceutical-grade cod liver oil/day just to see if there might be any improvement. Her seizures and headaches stopped the very next day. It's been over a month now, and she hasn't had one seizure or headache; before I gave her the oil, she'd have several seizures a day, and the headache about once a week.

BTW the oil I used is Barlean's Organic Oils Fresh Catch Cod Liver Oil, http://www.amazon.com/Barleans-Organic-Oils-8-Ounce-Bottle/d..., ~ $15 for an 8-oz bottle. The flavor is quite pleasant, not fishy at all -- my daughter would drink the entire bottle at once if I let her ;)

MBechtold

Many were awaiting this. http://rd3.ca

vedhz

Thanks for sharing good valuable information,which can help people based to their need, like right information, best education,right job,latest news and mostly all needs of human being we can get here.
herbal health supplements

seosem

Are there any natural vitamins etc. that are known to reduce seizure activity that I can give my son????

LAllen...

actualy i dont know the answer but i wan somebody help me that looking in space Is it call absence seizures

anjum

Both of our boys were dx with AS.  After going the medication route and experiencing horrible side effects, we've gone the natural route.  I don't think there's one supplement that will stop seizures, but a change in lifestyle... organic food, limiting sugar, eliminating msg, artificial anything, preservatives, food coloring, etc.  Basically eating whole foods.  Also we had hair analyses done to find what they were deficient in.  We've been treating them with supplements for 9 months now and have seen many positive changes and improvements.  Just trying supplements is like a shot in the dark!  We see a chiropractor that specializes in nutrition and enzyme therapy.  Try looking for one in your area...it's made a world of difference for us...not a quick fix, but not taking harmful drugs either!

kidart

I read this all please advice me if any one has benefited with omega 3

my daughter is 15 year old and has 10-20-seconds absence seizers in month about 10 -15 times.

she is taking tow medicine trigatol and colobazam should seh sould try this omega 3 or not

himachal

Hello, I have had absence seizures for 20 years now. And have tried to stop or control them with a vns, aed's and 2 brain surgerys and nothing has helped. I read where a diet and different vitamins would help. Please let me know what do you think the best vitamins I should take to help my brain and what diet or foods would help also. Dee-Dee 

ddlennon

   I am new to this group and happy to share my experience with epilepsy which I got when I was 16 and I am still currently studying in one of the top universities even though doctors gave me only 3 months to live with such EEG. according to them its impossible to remember even your name with such active EEG.anyway..

  I think thats its very important that we share our alternative treatments we discover, because at least in my case i tried 5 different medicine and combinations and they only made it worse! so now i am already 3 years off any stupid killing medication and I am much much better!!! what i found through careful monitoring and reading hundreds of medical articles and alternative medicine books and ..the most important my reactions is that- i have to worn about these triggers

    1.  soft drinks are evil especially coke!!!! please guys dont drink them at all!!!.

    2. monitor your reactions to food. it might not have very very bad allergy like mine to eggs causing just sport- but it does affect your fits!!!! thereforeI went glutein, dairy and egg free diet also avoiding yeast and definitely E621 additives in food and nitrites. Dont eat ham sold in shops or sausages. read what you eat!!!!

  3. fish oils what is interesting caused me more fits..so be careful, for omega-3 I eat milled flaxseed 28g each day..so  look how you react.

  4. stay away from primrose oil capsules!!!

  5. magnesium is like an air. epileptics naturally have less magnesium which is involved in 300 body functions and you definitely need if you want to feel better.!!! Just dont save and buy one which is actually absorbed by your body.

  6. take B vitamins. this is one of the best known cures, but be careful - dont buy the one with yeast!!!.

  7. dont do high cardio exercise. definitely do exercise but even 20 min of high fast running always would cause me fit.

   Thats mistakes I did and thats how I learnt. I feel much better!!!

 

 

aariaa

When I exercise and get my heart rate up I often also have a seizure. The seizures that I have basically make me stop whatever I am doing and I just stand, or sit (whatever I am doing at the moment) for about 30-40 seconds. I cant talk or understand what other people are saying for that time frame.

I also agree with the food thing. I found out what foods I was allergic to (per a blood test) and I stay away from those foods entirely (for me it is gluten, eggs, dairy, sugar, soy and a few other things). I also don't have any caffeine, not aspartame, and no alcohol. I think I have seen a great improvement with that, but without fail my periods monthly always make me have more seizures.

I have recently started using patches that are supposed to regulate your energy levels etc. and that has also helped with my seizures. There are about 30 different patches that regulate anything from stress and anxiety, to thyroid etc.

Anyways, nice to read that somebody else has some of the same struggles. :)

tiffan...

are you seizure free now? just by changing your diet and sleep?

sbesrour

I'm thinking a lot about this these days since my son is in something simmilar. The relationship might be obvious for certain type of people and is amazing how "underresearched" it is, even though one of the fathers of neurology suggessted it (William Gowers; Children suffering from rickets often developed seizure disorders when teething and he thought the two were related).

The background is vitamin D3 deficiency that is caused by:
- genetic metabolic disorder that prevents getting enough of it from food (milk, eggs,...)
- low sun exposure / skin covering (winter)
- developing boes, teething,...

We're still in the monitoring stage though. Just experimented with more sunshine these days and results are amazing. In the past months we have noticed that days after sun exposure seizures go down drastically to then raise slowly.

Yet there are other symptoms that give us the complete picture:
- we have had childhood rickets in the family (me, my father) - healed luckily
- atopic dermatitis
- late tooth eruption (teething stopped over winter; no new teeths for several months)

The problem is that while a child is under 2 or 3, calcium deficiency (that ends in rickets) might not be noticed since calcium still comes to the blood from the bones. Seizures might be present just because of vitamin D3 is at 0.

Anyway, starting with cod oil tommorrow (with neuro approval) while remaining on antileptics (even though they destroy D3).

If there are any sceptics around, look on this research ("scientific", doctors signed):

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/21298396/09-Causes-of-Seizures-_...

And google for more.

Duny

I've had epilepsy for over 10 years and they are under control but I really want to be cured of this. Right now I would do anything to be cured. Would you please tell me which omega 3 supplement you are using for you daughter and also tell me how your daughter is doing? I would appreicate this. I am getting desperate. 

Thank you.

Grace

 

 

Gracia

hello,

    My name is frank, I also i've had epilepsy for 10 years and they are under control by Topamax. I was wondering if omega 3 supplement was helpful to you?

frank976

I have had petit mal seizures (absense seizures) for 20 years now, from the age of 10. 

I've taken many medicines over the years and had a VNS surgery, to no help.  I am doing best by taking Lamictal XR (extended release) and keppra. However there are other things to take into account, aside from taking a pill 

Your way of life is key and I can control my occurences now by doing 2 main things:

1) do not eat foods with: MSG (maltodextrin, glutamate, glutamic acid, anything autolyzed yeasts, yeast extract, anything hydrolized, sodium caseinate, carrageenan, barley malt, malt extracts, and anything saying natrual flavors).  Sometimes it may be hard to design your diet around that but that's what you have to do, take it or leave it.  So you cancel that MSG factor out that way.  Forget outside foods and fast foods. Only simple meals with less sauces and flavorings when you eat out.

2) Also get plenty of sleep

If I get my sleep (6-7 hrs a night) and eat well, I am good, only having 1 "blackout" a month.  Sometimes losing sleep can catch up with you or you have to eat out, but at least you know why.

 

Dont ever take a vitamin while you are already taking a prescirbed mediciine, because they could throw eachother off.  What you need to do is cancel out possibilites scientifically.  You need to keep all possibilities in focus and find what's most important.  There would be no use for me to eat well if I wasn't getting sleep.  So either keep track of what you do and know what effects are coming from certain things.  So there's no use in taking nature made supplements while you're on something else because you won't know what's really helping.  I hope you see that picture that you don't just throw things in there.  You have to break it down and monitor what is and isn't having effects.  Best way to begin is keeping a very clean diet, msg free.   Plenty of foods are available without msg.  Stay away from all canned and frozen foods, broths, etc.

I'm not a dr, just a patient with 20 yrs of experience and experimentation. Hope this helps some

sgbtexan

Foods high in free glutamate are

Broccoli
Champignon
english spinach
mushrooms
silverbeet
tomato
grape
plum
prune
raisin
sultana
meat pies
processed luncheon meat
salami
sausages
seasoned meats and chicken
tasty cheeses (all)
miso
soy sauce
tempeh
tomato juice
vegetable juice
brandy, port, rum, sherry
liquers
wine
spicy flavours
cheese flavours
hydrolysed vegetable protein extract (probably many more names for this esp. in america)
meat extracts
soy paste
soy sauce
gravies
pastes (fish, meat, tomato)
sauces (all)
stock cubes
tomato ketchup
yeast extracts

kelp/ seaweed/ carageenan

 

And that's all!

 

Green Tea is also high in Theanine - which competitively inhibits glutamates - and tea is the only food source of theanine (hence the high intake of glutamates in some Asian diets where Green Tea is also a staple - seizure free)

The other, proven, treatment for seizures, is the ketogenic diet. Unfortunately it involves lifestyle changes rather than popping a pill; and no large pharmaceutical company can make a profit from it - conspiracies aside, doctors only know what they are taught however well-meaning they are) 

More info on following a glutamate (msg) free diet can be found at fedup.com.au - this diet also avoids many other additives and natural food chemicals. 

 

KR. 

kierryr

I'm not a doctor, but have two masters degrees.  I tried this with my daughter hoping that it woulds boost her mental acuity - the addition was made a few months after getting control of her grand mal seizures with a VNS (at age 29).  Unfortunately, she was still having absence seizures at the time - several a day.  Our finding at the time was that the Omega-3 stimulated absence seizures.  So, I stopped the Omega-3.  A couple of years later we added Gabapentin - attempting to ease spasticity, stiffness and cramping, and found that the Gabapentin helped in reducing the rate of absence seizures as well as the other problems.  After obtaining this reduction in the absence seizure-rate, we re-tried the Omega-3.  We're into the 4th week of administration, now, and this time it does not seem to be stimulating absence seizures, and may in fact be helping some with both her mental acuity (she is severely impaired) and her remaining absence seizures.  I read this as Omega-3 having different impacts for different levels of brain impairment and seizure control, and possibly having some treatment value for patients who manifest a relatively low seizure rate.  The suggestion, also, is that it might in some cases undo control, and thus needs to be used with care and caution.  Also, please note that lower doses stimulated fewer seizures (during the first administration and before Gabapentin).  A secondary suggestion, based on our experience, is that one needs to start this "experiment" at a relatively low-dose - perhaps 100 or 200 mg.. 

Marsman

Unfortunately, this did not work out for me. I thought I'd try some fish oil pills and swallowed 2000mg of them one
night, after which I broke out in a spasm of at least 15 absence
seizures over the next day. 

sandalman

I've seen a lot of parents on here wondering whether to use 'natural remedies' or go straight for the 'prescriptions'!?!?

I've also read through this board, and so many of the symptons of absence seizures, ring a familiar bell. It's something I try not to think about- as alot of the neurotic spasms, must be controllable by our own minds. However, that's on a much higher level.... a level I am trying to achieve, in a desperate attempt to control my seizures.

Now to help with your question, in my opinion... Try every 'natural' possibilty first. I reached straight for the prescriptions, after experienceing myclonic seizures, in my late teens.

IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME, I WOULD!! I WOULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN THE PRESCRIPTION TABLETS.

It is only now that I am starting a natural approach, but I worry it is too late. That my body is too dependent and destroyed by these pills.

ET

i completly agree with you, i am still on my meds but what i really mean is it is all in the mind. that is so true! ive looked at those natural remedies but am still hesetent. i mainly now do all kinds of research on controlling your own brain or the 'higher level' you explained. it is fassinating and so true because i know the docs feel they know everything because they went to school to get that degree because if you have it you are something, but that is all about the governments way of making money. you dont know anything unless you have a degree when really the most simple people with basic day after day life are just as smart, as they use their brain for knowledge and not money or respect. so thank you for posting this. it realy helped to see that. sorry about my spelling, that was my fall back after my surgery.

crystal82

My 8 yo gaughter started with absence seizures.  Her MD started her on Keprra, that helped a little.  We decided to try more natural treatments.  The OMEGA-3 packs (2 per day) stopped her seizures for 8 days, but they slowly started again.  We are convinced that we are just missing a small piece of the puzzle. Any advice??

Jeanni...

Any progress? Perhaps she's just not absorbing it correctly? (metabolism too fast?)

Duny

Hi I have a  7yr old daughter and possible having a few absent seizures during early evening time, im waiting for the eeg results to come back but ive also been looking into possible cures without any prescribed drugs as I dont really want to go down this line. Can any out there tell me have they ever used Epi STill from native remedies.com, I just wonder if there was any thougths on this. I bought some omega 3 capsules yesterday hopeingthis will help. Like I say the absentness is brief and poss 5 during early evening, when she is probably getting tired and seems to want to talk alot.

can any one offer any more advise pse.

Thankyou Diane

kitch

Hi Diane, I posted just below yours about my 8 year old son.  I went back to his neuro last Monday and let her know that we were going to continue to see the chiropractor and we were going to try alternatives instead of giving him meds.  She was okay for me to do so and suggested that we do a 24 hour eeg down the road after he's been to the chiropractor for approx 6 - 8 weeks just to see what is happening.  I have not tried epi-still but have heard of it.  We are using fish oil,  b6, magnesium, acai berry, multi-vitamin and epsom salt baths, plus chiropractic adjustments 3 times per week (which he loves!)  Other than that, she stressed the importance to keep giving him the fish oil no matter what and stay away from any artificial sweeteners including Splenda, and no MSG!!   He still has some absences but there seem to be triggers.  Very loud noises, over stimulation (sensory overload)  For example when we walked into Sam's club and there were 30 tv's going at once while registers were beeping and music over the loud speaker - he immediately had an absence seizure and I've charted that it has happened everytime he has been in a store where alot of commotion is going on, so we try to avoid that situation, and if he goes too long without eating.  THe neuro did say that changes in blood sugar levels can cause absences as well as being tired.  Hang in there, I know it's not conventional and some people may think you are crazy for not medicating your daughter, but there are parents out there that are taking an alternative route.  I would advise you to find a neurologist that is willing to follow you if you decide to try alternatives.  I had to go through a very close minded one but I'm glad I kept looking.  Also,  I have noticed his seizures are lessening since adding in the chiropractic adjustments, maybe it's something to look into as well.

God Bless you and your family, I know it's scary at first - I cried for 3 days-  but knowledge is power and trust your mother's intuition about what is right for your daughter,


Katy

kitty4

Hi katy, just wondering how your son is getting along. My daughter is still having a few abscences every day
but is doing ok. I've still not put her on medication, I give her fish oil and
vit e and started with Epsom salt baths twice a week. I've read alot about Epsom salts seems to help. Hope your son is doing ok, any other help would be appreciated. Take care

Diane

kitch

Hi Katy, dont know how well your son is doing now, hope everything is well, we had the results from the eeg and we went to see the speacialist a few weeks ago, my daughter has primary generalized epilepsey, which represent themselves into these breif staring spell, she wanted me to start her on treatment, but i have siad no at this time and asked if i could speak to a neurologist. the suggested aed was sodium valporate which has horrible side effects or she has given me an alternative of lamotirgine brand name lamictal. At the moment I still dont want to go down this road, ive been giving her omega 3 capsules and also vit b complex, she is not too bad, but these loast few weeks she seem to be having a few more, but only brief spells, it doesnt effect her at the moment, but im just so scared in what to do, or is there any other suggestions into what i can give her. The side effects of these drugs are not very nice, but i was told she may not grow out of these and it may develop into something else, the dr is prepared to go along with me for the time being and i have a return visit to see her in 3 months. At the moment i feel like im dammed if i do and dammed if I dont, does anyone else out there feel like this, and as there been anymore success stories without having to go onto AEDS. i hope you son continues to improve. I havnet tried the epson salts bath yet.

Best wishes to you and family

 

Diane

kitch

Can you help me?  My 8 yo daughter started with absence seizures, confirmed on EEG.  Her MD started her on Keppra, it helped a little.  He wanted to add another med., but I can't bring myself to give it to her because of the side effects.  I started her on B complex and OMEGA 3 packs (2 per day) and her seizures disappeared for 8 DAYS!!!!! Unfortunately, they slowly returned.  I made an appointment with a choropractor for this week (she is still on the Keppra). Did you experience a stop and start of seizures with the fish oil and if so, what did you do? I am having trouble getting a doctor to help me with a natural treatment.  I am also researching the ketogenic diet (but she was seizure FREE for 8 DAYS with simply adding the fish oil).

                                                                                         Thanks,

                                                                                                     Jeannine

Jeanni...

Hi thankyou for your very kind support, I have started on omega 3 to see if it will help and also look into other ways, she only seems to have thei brief absenses, when she is possibly tired and when she starts talking so much i think her brain just overloads a bit, she is aware of what has happened and responds to me straight away if i put my hand infront of her, or call her, school have not noticed anything and her school work is ok, so im just waiting for the appt, but I feel at this stage I want to stay clear of AEDS. I wish your son well

thankyou Diane 

 

kitch

I came across this post while researching absence seizures for my 8yr. old son who was officially diagnosed with absence seizures last fall, although we had been noticing the absences sporadically since May 08. Our pediatrician said he would outgrow them but should have a neuro follow him.  We have seen 2 neuros, one that scoffed at the idea of vitamins/diet changes and our current neuro  that offers alternative and conventional treatments.  Right now, We are taking the route of alternative therapies/diet changes as opposed to meds due to the complications and side effects caused by anti convulsants.    Aside from the absences, my son is strong, intelligent and healthy. We started him on fish oil (Coromega orange flavored packets) and within a few weeks his absences reduced from 10 -15 per day to 5 - 8.  Our Dr. suggested magnesium and b6 supplements and said it would take about 6 weeks for any effect or changes to show up. We have also eliminated any MSG, artificial sweeteners including Splenda which we had used daily, caffeine, high fructose corn syrup and anything that has massive chemicals in the ingredients.  We started this on Jan. 19th.  Also on Feb. 23rd, we started 3x/week visits to the chiropractor.  An xray showed the bone at the base of his skull/top of his spine was out of position.  This has been our 3rd week at the chiro and this past Monday he was seizure free all day for the first time in 10 months!   For the past few days, he has gone the better part of the day without the absences except when he gets over tired. Yesterday he went all day again with none and then had 2 last night as he was up past his bed time.   I do chart them and have noticed a connection to him having them more often when he is overly tired or excited.   I am noticing significant improvement since we have added in the chiro and we are also just hitting the 6 week mark for the vitamins as well, he also takes an epsom salt bath 2x/week.  One thing of interest is that he developed hives last weekend after taking the B6, and the chiro did tell me that if it is synthetic b6 (which it was) it can happen if you have too much in your system, so to look for a better quality b6 from a health food store, preferably made from a food source.  Our neuro also offers neurofeedback which will be another option for us, if needed,  however, it is very expensive and most insurances won't  cover it, including mine.  So we are saving up if needed. Our plan is to leave no stone unturned as far as natural/alternative treatments  for my son to stay healthy and side effect free. 

kitty4

it may just be a coincidence. One of our docs suggested Omega 3 oil for my daughter 2 years ago just because it is good for the brain but the seizure activity in her brain has not changes in fact it has probably increased. Either way it is a good supplement and I am so glad your daughter hasn't had any more seizures!
Connie

Connie...

pra

Dear all,

Hi.

I am father of an epileptic daughter(9 years old, 27
kgs body wt) who was diagnosed last year. So far she had three major
seizures and after that her doctor had put her on tegretol 300 mg
CR(two doses a day) and frisium 5mg a day. Since then she stopped
having seizures. However, she continues to have absence seizures may be
around 20 in a day, I guess. Fortunately I have stumbled upon this forum and
there is a lot of healthy discussion going on in this forum on
controlling absence seizures with fish oils/dietary essential fatty
acids.

If fish oil capsules or EFAs are given along with regular
medication(tegretol and frisium) which I had mentioned above, will it
cause any adverse drug reaction or any other side effects.

I appreciate if any doc/parent on this forum clarifies my doubt?

Warm regds

pra

The success obtained with omega-3 confirm my hypothesis on the role of neuroendocrine system and intesine in the pathogenesis of epilepys. I'm a chemistry who work since 1981 in a neurological cliinic of university.

Recently I had write a paper (medical Hypotheses, 2008), suggesting thaat there are not the ketons the responsable of anticonvulsant effetc of ketogenic diet, but neuropetide y (NPY). In fact NPY is stimulated by, stress, i.e. starvation, used at Biblcal time to control seizure, intestinal nutrients as fats, ketogenic diet and your omega-3,  medium chain tryglicerids, MCT diet, serotonin and tryptophan.

NPY is an endogenous anticonvulsant, as it's showned by many studies on it.

SSRIs antidepressant drugs increases intestinal serotonin, it's explain their anticonvulsant effects (Their were considered pro-convulsants, but our paper demonstred that they are anti-convulsants). Also antiepileptic drugs increase intesinal serotonin.

With the aim to confirm it we had registered a food supplement (Serplus Giofarma srl, info@giofarma.it) containing alpha-lacatlbumin (ALAC), a whey protein rich in triptophan and poor in the other large neutral amino acids competing to it to intestinal absorption and to cross blood brain barrier.

The results obtained both in clinical studies and in animals allow to ALAC to enter in the screening program of NIH.

 

 

PAOLOM...

How do I figure out the dose of fish oil that I should be giving my daughter.  She is very drug sensitive, the first two medications had too many side effects and I would like to give the fish oil a try.   Can you(anyone) help? She weighs 71 pounds and suffer only form absence seizures, but many a day when not on medication.

missid

 Cure,possible cure i've heard this so many times in the past 30yrs

jderry

I just found your blog on fish oil. I have a 7 year old and we are having

problems with finding the right drugs. She is having a hard time in school and she too maxes out on

all the medications. I was wondering if you could PLEASE give me an update on your daughter and

let me know if they fish oil helped her absence seizures.

 

Thank you

Desperate mommy!

mgarcia

Hi

I want to post question, how can I do?

Korn

Hi,

Try fish oil from Nature  Made (1200 mg/day capsules) and coenzymeQ10 from nature made (1 a day).  After reading this forum,  I have started taking them. Havent seen any drastic difference in my health status, because seizures were pretty much controlled previously by taking a very high dose of lamictal. I have to start experimenting now by slowly decreasing the drug level. I think you should try to give your kid fish oil capsules, coenzyme q and the medicines she is currently taking and see whether there is any difference. lf not go to  someother physician and tell him/her to prescribe a higher dose or may be try a different drug. Most important, try to create a stress free environment around her. Take care.

 

gsastro12

Thanks, I actually started her on 600 mg a day, we are doing the liquid, wow does it stink.  She is decreasing her depakote now, she is on 1/2 the dose that she was a week ago and I have not saw a seizure yet ( she has absence , so there are usually many a day when not on meds).  So I am hopefull that this is going to work, we have also been back to the neuro and have topamax (We said no to Lamictal, too many scary side effects) that we are suppose to be adding this week, we may just wait and see how this all goes with getting off the depakote first.

missid

Hi.Try Carlsons fish oil lemon flavored.It was recommended to me by a highly regarded naturopath and is so delicious.You would think that you could actually put it on your fish!No kidding. And no after taste.I hope you and your daughter are doing well.Take care.

omega3

[...] we have also been back to the neuro and have topamax (We said no to Lamictal, too many scary side effects) that we are suppose to be adding this week, we may just wait and see how this all goes with getting off the depakote first. [...]

worldi...

Hi,

I too used to take depakote (sodium valproate) and tegretol (carbamazapine) several years ago. One of the most problematic side effects was hand tremors. The Dr. told me it is one of the side effects of sodium valproate. So I started taking lamictal only. I completely removed carbamazapine and sodium valproate. However, I still had hand tremors. So I started taking inderal (propranolol). Hand tremors are still present, but they have definitely decreased. My main problem is lamictal. I take 900 mg – that’s a super high dose and it effects my thinking ability – makes me mentally sluggish. So I want to decrease it somehow.

If you don’t mind, can you tell me what was the dosage of valproate and other drugs your kid was taking before you halved the dosage of valproate. At what times in the day was she taking the drugs? Was it with food or without food? Is she taking fish oil at a specific time in the day or at the same time as she is being given depakote? Which brand of fish oil is she taking? Is she on a special diet? I am a vegetarian and have a high carbohydrate diet. Sorry too many questions, but I just hope the answers you give me will help me in decreasing my medicine uptake. Thanks

gsastro12

Dear all,

Currently, I am taking 900 mg of lamictal !! I also take 160 mg of inderal (to decrease the tremors caused by lamictal). I recently completed my Ph.D. studies. It took me 8 years to complete it. Normally, students complete it within 4-5 years.  I think the very high dose of lamictal that I am taking has made me mentally very sluggish.

Now, I want to start working as a postdoctoral scientist.  I am afraid that my employer will not tolerate things going slow and I will loose my job. I want to some how decrease the amount of  lamictal to something like 200 mg so that I will be able to think faster. Can you all  tell me the type, amount and brand of fish oil that works for you all?  I want to take the same oil and the same  amount to see whether my seizures go away.  

Thanks

 

gsastro12