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suicide and seizures

Fri, 05/25/2007 - 22:00
what can you say? can you honestly speak to people about epilepsy? can they understand? i doubt it. and who has not made plans? be honest if you can. talk about the seriousness of these events. They do change your psyche. But how?

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Re: Re: suicide and seizures

Submitted by MOLSON on Mon, 2007-06-11 - 20:49
What is depression? One does not have to accept modern psychiatry with her reductive numbers. Have you seen the DSM or is it DMS. As if personality is ruled by principles of chemical/biological components.Depression as a modern diagnosis leaves out the concept of the individual it is treated.

Re: Re: Re: suicide and seizures

Submitted by walthowat on Tue, 2007-06-12 - 10:55
You ask what is depression. There are no words to really describe it. But once you have been through it and have felt it .. and then come out of it, you know what it is. Some of the chemicals in the brain that would naturally fight the onset of a seizure are the same ones that would fight off certain components of depression. So.. it makes sense that those people whose seizures are made worse by not having enough of those chemicals around will be more prone to also havbing depression. I read a fascinating article a couple years ago where a researcher felt that a large amount of seizure prone individuals were running our of GABA because they did not have enough of a certain amine that was used to transport one of the chemical compoenents needed to resupply GABA as it was being used up. In other words, some little Fedex chemical in our brains is slow on making deliveries. This makes so much sense, since large amounts of stress would use up large amounts of GABA, trying to dampen the chemcials it created. Sooo.. when certain ions start to do some hip hop dancing through channels as if they are going to start a seizure, there might not be enough GABA to dampen that...so it just keeps on going until it becomes a seizure. Well...the same thing can happen when you are also not having enough GABA to fight off some of the chemicals that can cause depression. I suspect there are a bunch of pharmaceutical companies out there working on meds that can put some new Fedex trucks back into your brain. If all of this is true... then wow.... no more seizures... no more depression... and no more heavyweight meds with superbad side effects. As I mentioned before, one of those side effects for some of the meds is prompting suicide. One of the meds I am on now is powerful in this respect... at least with me it is. Which is why I will not name it, because it just may be the way it works with me. But other meds have done the same with other seizured folk. From the first day they tested me with this med, I thought "what the heck is this? What am I thinking?" I can actually feel it happening. Fortunately I recognize it and know where it is coming from. And I now know that there is a drug level that if I stay below that, I am not affected seriously. By the way, for some reason, having a really good grand mal seizure, for some reason, seems to do away with depression for a week or two. I have a half dozen thoughts as to why, but it is just speculation WALT

Re: Re: Re: Re: suicide and seizures

Submitted by Howard Rubenstein on Tue, 2007-06-19 - 21:30
Just DON"T do it! Life is worth more. Talk to your doctor about these thoughts. You can be helped.

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