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Simple Partial Seizures v. BiPolar Disorder

Wed, 01/05/2005 - 09:13
This may sound strange, but I really need the input. My Nephew was recently diagnosed with BiPolar Disorder. The "Diagnosis" from what I understand was made simply from descriptions of his behavior. No types of tests. I'm concerned since there is a family history of Epilepsy and since his behavior could also be fit into the classification of Simple Partial Seizures -"Psychic seizures". Has anyone heard of or experienced one of these conditions being mis-diagnosed as the other? My sister will only investigate the possibility if I can show her that it has happened to someone else. I don't want to see my nephew suffer for hi mother's stubbornness. Or, am I totally off base? If I'm wrong I'll be glad to know that too.

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RE: RE: Simple Partial Seizures v. BiPolar Disorder

Submitted by MeningiomaMommaKelli on Tue, 2005-04-12 - 17:33
i was just recently dx w/ temporal lobe epilepsy but have a long history of seizures. I have dealt with depression for the last several years. I also would have terrible very sudden mood swings that my Neurologist thinks were actually seizures. It was something that was so unusual for me and out of character. They would pass just as quickly as they came on. It might last for awhile or only a few minutes. I also had the phantom smells and sounds. There were times that I thought that I must be having some serious mental issues but would never have told anyone b/c I was too afraid! WHen I fianlly did come clean with my new Neurologist, she was very glad that I did b/c she said that this was something that needed to be addressed and of course not just ignored and that i was not crazy!! I can see how though these symptoms could be mistaken for mental disorders.I hope that your sister does take this serious and take your nephew to get an eval soon!!

RE: RE: RE: Simple Partial Seizures v. BiPolar Disorder

Submitted by Stars007 on Wed, 2005-04-13 - 21:06

For what this is worth, my 18 year old daughter had developmental delays due to a chromosome abnormality.  She was diagnosed with Intermittent Explosive Disorder at age 12, and at age 17 she was also diagnosed with Complex Partial Epilepsy, which originate at the Frontal Lobe.

Since the frontal lobe is responsible for impulse control and inhibitions, all this is related. But what came first, the chicken or the egg?  Was she really having seizures (undetected) since age 12 which were causing the aggressive behavior? Or, does she truly have two diagnosis that are related and wreak havoc on each other?  If she does have 2 diagnoses, then are the frontal lobe seizures causing more damage to an already abnormal part of the brain?

She's on 7 meds - 2 for seizures and 4 for mood, behavior and anxiety and 1 for thyroid. She is stable, and for that I'm thankful.

So, for those out there asking about bi-polar and other mental illness diagnosis, perhaps an EEG would uncover some abnormal brain waves.  This showed up on my daughter, and she did not have a seizure while undergoing this particular EEG. An MRI may also be helpful.

For what this is worth, my 18 year old daughter had developmental delays due to a chromosome abnormality.  She was diagnosed with Intermittent Explosive Disorder at age 12, and at age 17 she was also diagnosed with Complex Partial Epilepsy, which originate at the Frontal Lobe.

Since the frontal lobe is responsible for impulse control and inhibitions, all this is related. But what came first, the chicken or the egg?  Was she really having seizures (undetected) since age 12 which were causing the aggressive behavior? Or, does she truly have two diagnosis that are related and wreak havoc on each other?  If she does have 2 diagnoses, then are the frontal lobe seizures causing more damage to an already abnormal part of the brain?

She's on 7 meds - 2 for seizures and 4 for mood, behavior and anxiety and 1 for thyroid. She is stable, and for that I'm thankful.

So, for those out there asking about bi-polar and other mental illness diagnosis, perhaps an EEG would uncover some abnormal brain waves.  This showed up on my daughter, and she did not have a seizure while undergoing this particular EEG. An MRI may also be helpful.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Simple Partial Seizures v. BiPolar Disorder

Submitted by shellyme33 on Fri, 2005-04-15 - 13:53

Check out www.mentalhealth.com!  Take the Brain Tour! I am very impressed!  They have made a direct association with Bi Polar and epilepsy.  I believe Temporal Lobe Epilepsy and Bi Polar both originate in the same portion of the brain.  I will have to keep studying, but that is what I understand thus far.  It is the most informative site on brain fuction I have found thus far.  Also, estrogen has a dramatic impact on the hippocampus (hippocampus has receptors connected directly to the frontal lobes).  They are currently researching estrogen's connection to Bi Polar and Epilepsy!

Read this stuff and help me understand.  My daughter is having very similar problems.  So far the only diagnosis is TLE. This Brain tour has a lot of stuff about Epilepsy and its origination in different areas of the brain.

Interesting!!!

Mishelle

Check out www.mentalhealth.com!  Take the Brain Tour! I am very impressed!  They have made a direct association with Bi Polar and epilepsy.  I believe Temporal Lobe Epilepsy and Bi Polar both originate in the same portion of the brain.  I will have to keep studying, but that is what I understand thus far.  It is the most informative site on brain fuction I have found thus far.  Also, estrogen has a dramatic impact on the hippocampus (hippocampus has receptors connected directly to the frontal lobes).  They are currently researching estrogen's connection to Bi Polar and Epilepsy!

Read this stuff and help me understand.  My daughter is having very similar problems.  So far the only diagnosis is TLE. This Brain tour has a lot of stuff about Epilepsy and its origination in different areas of the brain.

Interesting!!!

Mishelle

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