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Epileptic fits being no more than a mood swing under stress? Is this possible?
Sun, 12/12/2004 - 18:09Comments
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Epileptic fits being no more tha
Submitted by monalisa on Tue, 2005-02-22 - 06:21
Hi.
I just dropped by to post these links that I researched, the first one asks the question I myself (not me.)thought was being asked by others along with myself in this thread.Can I just stress the views in this post are my own,and not representative of anyone else. The second link does answer what was being asked, it should come in handy, if you save it for future reference somewhere just for you(and not for me.)I mean that from myself.The third link discusses the meaning of 'interpretation' .I found that interesting, and sure hope you do.Along with the other two links they all paint a picture easy to understand why you have-and others wondered why you felt as you did legitimately when taking an AED.
Others who do post,maybe wondering why they feel as they do when going through an AED changeover might be interested in why that is,as pointed out in the links.One that has feeling linked to legitimate relationship to AED effect. Not any other cause, though there are ways of working that in,I and others have read. Jude might find those views posted about that interesting.I did, that Canada has very liberal laws on marriage, and I along with others wish them both well that need those laws. Maybe Jude could discuss the points with her girlfriend over a meal next time they meet up. I'm sure Harish,who right now is taking the time, and patience (his laptop is being put to good use,as he only has the one.) trying to get food,along with clothing distributed in India, would agree with that.He also would wish them well,as I'm sure that he would also agree, his 'writing style' at the moment is not the best, but his own.It always was, not as your girlfriend assumed Jude...As she said though,'she never makes a mistake'.She should have talked to Cynthia,about that one,or yourself.Never go to the mountain when you can consult a qualified professional,or read the good articles on here,is my view,and mine only.
Another idea of mine (not 'me',or anyone else) was,they could research the effects of 'hot water epilepsy'when they next meet,over a meal.Should add spice to "it'(go easy on the onion.) as the cartoons on Jude's board certainly do add spice to the posts on there when I read it.Just an idea from someone who does make mistakes in life,and is not medically qualified.
'Was there a temporal relationship between the onset of psychiatric symptoms and the introduction, dose change, or withdrawal of an AED? Psychiatric symptoms can represent side effects of AEDs, in which case dose reduction or discontinuation of the new AED should result in symptom remission. Also, several AEDs have mood-stabilizing properties. Their discontinuation may have unmasked an underlying mood disorder. In these cases, reintroduction of the AED or another AED with mood-stabilizing properties may lead to symptom remission.'
http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/behavioral_evaluating.html
In addition to preventing recurrence of manic, hypomanic, or depressive episodes in bipolar patients, carbamazepine and valproic acid have antimanic properties. As already mentioned, lamotrigine has antidepressant properties. Accordingly, clinicians should consider the use of these AEDs in patients with these comorbid psychiatric disorders, as seizure control and mood stabilization may occur at the same time.
'On the other hand, discontinuing carbamazepine, valproic acid, or lamotrigine in patients with a history of mood disorder may precipitate the recurrence of psychiatric symptoms. Patients and family members should be alerted to that possibility.'
http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/behavioral_treatment.html
Because AEDs may affect cognition and behavior independently, these areas were discussed separately. Issues involving study design, interpretation of results, and how these findings can guide individual patient treatment strategies were also discussed. The determination of individual patient outcomes following treatment requires the ability to determine genuine change statistically, and then to subsequently translate those results in a manner that communicates the clinical significance of the statistical findings.
http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/ar_1101825090.html
Hi.
I just dropped by to post these links that I researched, the first one asks the question I myself (not me.)thought was being asked by others along with myself in this thread.Can I just stress the views in this post are my own,and not representative of anyone else. The second link does answer what was being asked, it should come in handy, if you save it for future reference somewhere just for you(and not for me.)I mean that from myself.The third link discusses the meaning of 'interpretation' .I found that interesting, and sure hope you do.Along with the other two links they all paint a picture easy to understand why you have-and others wondered why you felt as you did legitimately when taking an AED.
Others who do post,maybe wondering why they feel as they do when going through an AED changeover might be interested in why that is,as pointed out in the links.One that has feeling linked to legitimate relationship to AED effect. Not any other cause, though there are ways of working that in,I and others have read. Jude might find those views posted about that interesting.I did, that Canada has very liberal laws on marriage, and I along with others wish them both well that need those laws. Maybe Jude could discuss the points with her girlfriend over a meal next time they meet up. I'm sure Harish,who right now is taking the time, and patience (his laptop is being put to good use,as he only has the one.) trying to get food,along with clothing distributed in India, would agree with that.He also would wish them well,as I'm sure that he would also agree, his 'writing style' at the moment is not the best, but his own.It always was, not as your girlfriend assumed Jude...As she said though,'she never makes a mistake'.She should have talked to Cynthia,about that one,or yourself.Never go to the mountain when you can consult a qualified professional,or read the good articles on here,is my view,and mine only.
Another idea of mine (not 'me',or anyone else) was,they could research the effects of 'hot water epilepsy'when they next meet,over a meal.Should add spice to "it'(go easy on the onion.) as the cartoons on Jude's board certainly do add spice to the posts on there when I read it.Just an idea from someone who does make mistakes in life,and is not medically qualified.
'Was there a temporal relationship between the onset of psychiatric symptoms and the introduction, dose change, or withdrawal of an AED? Psychiatric symptoms can represent side effects of AEDs, in which case dose reduction or discontinuation of the new AED should result in symptom remission. Also, several AEDs have mood-stabilizing properties. Their discontinuation may have unmasked an underlying mood disorder. In these cases, reintroduction of the AED or another AED with mood-stabilizing properties may lead to symptom remission.'
http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/behavioral_evaluating.html
In addition to preventing recurrence of manic, hypomanic, or depressive episodes in bipolar patients, carbamazepine and valproic acid have antimanic properties. As already mentioned, lamotrigine has antidepressant properties. Accordingly, clinicians should consider the use of these AEDs in patients with these comorbid psychiatric disorders, as seizure control and mood stabilization may occur at the same time.
'On the other hand, discontinuing carbamazepine, valproic acid, or lamotrigine in patients with a history of mood disorder may precipitate the recurrence of psychiatric symptoms. Patients and family members should be alerted to that possibility.'
http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/behavioral_treatment.html
Because AEDs may affect cognition and behavior independently, these areas were discussed separately. Issues involving study design, interpretation of results, and how these findings can guide individual patient treatment strategies were also discussed. The determination of individual patient outcomes following treatment requires the ability to determine genuine change statistically, and then to subsequently translate those results in a manner that communicates the clinical significance of the statistical findings.
http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/ar_1101825090.html
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Epileptic fits being no more than a mood
Submitted by seeker2 on Sun, 2004-11-28 - 09:08
Anything can be open to being misrepresented.I just replied to another person called lee?
As I said in that post,being non -judgemental and open and receptive does help when reading -that means anything.I mean that kindly,for I did that, and tried not to misinterpret what it was I was reading and form a view- not based on what I thought was happening,and to get the proper message that was there.That is understanding.To do that? all sides do have to be seen and listened to.I then came and read your replies.You in your own replies wanted to get a message across?
I read your posts, read the others,didn't read your own message board,but others have,and in the past must have read both your thoughts,and your words.Read your own words,and your own messages you were getting across then.You have strong opinions,and that came through?what also comes through?you were not being judged on those words of yours.Nothing was expressed that said your own opinion you have is or was wrong.Just that .You were seen as you.No judgement calls were made,and shouldn't have been.Maybe to you ,when you read, you do feel,because people believe,or have, and do express a view,they are in someway different ,that sets them aside from the rest?you feel in a way that's not acceptable.You have made that view plain(as I have to 2 in particular who do not post in here ,but who I really would like to catch up with.)before, and again now.How you handle things is up to you,as it is,how others do so ,has to be up to them.They can struggle enough without being judged,and be telling the truth in that struggle,and be judged less than kindly.We are all different,I accept that as I do, that at times things are not seen as they should be( as I said in my reply to Lee)when it's right there in front of someone. That's true and it always will be.
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Anything can be open to being misrepresented.I just replied to another person called lee?
As I said in that post,being non -judgemental and open and receptive does help when reading -that means anything.I mean that kindly,for I did that, and tried not to misinterpret what it was I was reading and form a view- not based on what I thought was happening,and to get the proper message that was there.That is understanding.To do that? all sides do have to be seen and listened to.I then came and read your replies.You in your own replies wanted to get a message across?
I read your posts, read the others,didn't read your own message board,but others have,and in the past must have read both your thoughts,and your words.Read your own words,and your own messages you were getting across then.You have strong opinions,and that came through?what also comes through?you were not being judged on those words of yours.Nothing was expressed that said your own opinion you have is or was wrong.Just that .You were seen as you.No judgement calls were made,and shouldn't have been.Maybe to you ,when you read, you do feel,because people believe,or have, and do express a view,they are in someway different ,that sets them aside from the rest?you feel in a way that's not acceptable.You have made that view plain(as I have to 2 in particular who do not post in here ,but who I really would like to catch up with.)before, and again now.How you handle things is up to you,as it is,how others do so ,has to be up to them.They can struggle enough without being judged,and be telling the truth in that struggle,and be judged less than kindly.We are all different,I accept that as I do, that at times things are not seen as they should be( as I said in my reply to Lee)when it's right there in front of someone. That's true and it always will be.
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Epileptic fits being no
Submitted by happycat2 on Sun, 2004-12-12 - 18:09
I'm hoping also that what has been asked for happens,and the judgements do stop.It's time they did.I also hope that you both find acceptance,don't get judged.
It can be really easy to judge others,easy to offer excuses that use epilepsy as an excuse to judgement call others.It is easy to not offer help needed,along with understanding and support,that if given,be nothing useful,have laptop will travel do that.Life can be tough enough as it is without others handing down judgement as a right to. This link might interest you Jude,as much as I hope it helps Skyscape,who my hope is finds the help needed,and they are not judged unkindly.
Some AEDs have both inhibitory and excitatory properties (e.g., topiramate, levetiracetam, and zonisamide) and tend to be more sedating than activating, but can also cause anxiety, irritability, and depression.
http://www.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/interprob_aeds.html
I'm hoping also that what has been asked for happens,and the judgements do stop.It's time they did.I also hope that you both find acceptance,don't get judged.
It can be really easy to judge others,easy to offer excuses that use epilepsy as an excuse to judgement call others.It is easy to not offer help needed,along with understanding and support,that if given,be nothing useful,have laptop will travel do that.Life can be tough enough as it is without others handing down judgement as a right to. This link might interest you Jude,as much as I hope it helps Skyscape,who my hope is finds the help needed,and they are not judged unkindly.
Some AEDs have both inhibitory and excitatory properties (e.g., topiramate, levetiracetam, and zonisamide) and tend to be more sedating than activating, but can also cause anxiety, irritability, and depression.
http://www.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/interprob_aeds.html