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epilepsy and "rage episodes"

Sat, 01/08/2005 - 16:37
hello,I'm wondering if anyone has any input or experience with this. My brother has epilepsy diagnosed in his early 20's. Seizures are mostly controlled by medication. However, he has episodes of extreme, nearly violent rage where he seems out of control and screams at people in a way that is pretty scary. I have always noticed that he has what we called a "bad temper" but really it was always alot more than that. Now though, these episodes are becoming more frequent. (3-4 times weekly)We are wondering if this has anything to do with his epilepsy. The episodes are so extreme that it seems not right. He screams and throws things though he has not been physically violent. If anyone has any input it would be great to hear. Does this sound at all familiar to anyone else?Thanks.

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Re: RE: RE: RE: epilepsy and "rage episodes"

Submitted by HUNGERICAN on Sun, 2009-12-20 - 07:36
I WAS PUT ON KEPPRA 5 YEARS AGO FOR SEZIURES THAT WERE STARTING BUT DID NOT GO INTO THE COMPLETE GRAN MAL SEIZURE THAT I WAS HAVING YEARS AGO BUT I DO NOT EXPERENCE ANY RAGES FROM IT I HAVE A BAD TEMPER WHICH I PICKED UP THREW MY PUERTO RICAN MOM BUT I DO NOT START THROWING THINGS OR HITTING MY WIFE OR DOGS I HAD BRAIN SURGERY IN 1991 HAD 1 GRAND MAL SEIZURE AFTER SURGERY AND NO MORE SINCE BUT I STILL TAKE DIALANTIN, AND KEPPRA I DO GET TIRED BUT I TRY TO FIGHT IT OFF FROM TAKING A NAP SOME DAYS IT GETS ME AND I HAVE TO TAKE THAT NAP I AM 49 YEARS OLD I HAD SEIZURES WHEN I WAS BORN UNTIL I WAS 5 YEARS OLD THEN THEY STOPPED I WAS NEVER TOLD I HAD SEIZURES UNTIL I JOINED THE ARMY AND HAD A GRANDMAL DURING BASIC TRAINING WHEN I WAS DISCHARGED I GOT BACK HOME MY MOM TOLD ME THAT I HAD EPILEPSY WHEN I WAS BORN SO NOW I KNEW, GOD BLESS YOU ALL THAT SUFFER FROM EPILEPSY STAY STRONG I KNOW IT IS A HARD THING FOR PEOPLE TO DO WHO SUFFER FROM EPILEPSY BECAUSE I AM ONE ALSO,SOMEDAYS I AM HAPPY SOMEDAYS UPSET SOMEDAYS TIRED,SOMEDAYS DO NOT CARE, BUT I AM STILL HERE FIGHTING EPILEPSY.

Re: RE: RE: RE: epilepsy and "rage episodes"

Submitted by DartingTrout on Fri, 2012-05-11 - 23:12

What I would like to know, however, is whether or not this is something that DOCTORS actually legitimise? I mean, do they support this theory, that rage is a type of seizure, and if so, is there medication for it? Has anyone had this experience, please?

 I don't have time to get through all the replies, but I'm so grateful to be reading the ones I have read, all of them validating something I never knew. I have been struggling with rage for years. I was diagnosed when I was 13, and living with my parents, I wasn't "allowed" to express strong emotions. I have memories, however, of fully losing control outside of the home, and as I got older, the rage finally and fully unleashed itself in my early thirties, with intermittent episodes prior to that all throuh my twenties, depending. It is like a lightning bolt. I would say volcano, but it's not a slow and steady simmer. It really is very sudden, like a seizure would be.

What I would like to know, however, is whether or not this is something that DOCTORS actually legitimise? I mean, do they support this theory, that rage is a type of seizure, and if so, is there medication for it? Has anyone had this experience, please?

 I don't have time to get through all the replies, but I'm so grateful to be reading the ones I have read, all of them validating something I never knew. I have been struggling with rage for years. I was diagnosed when I was 13, and living with my parents, I wasn't "allowed" to express strong emotions. I have memories, however, of fully losing control outside of the home, and as I got older, the rage finally and fully unleashed itself in my early thirties, with intermittent episodes prior to that all throuh my twenties, depending. It is like a lightning bolt. I would say volcano, but it's not a slow and steady simmer. It really is very sudden, like a seizure would be.

RE: epilepsy and "rage episodes"

Submitted by mexican_fire on Tue, 2005-01-04 - 17:04

THis one can be a v ery tricky one.

The violence that seems to be going on at your end, is called Episodic Dyscontrol, and is not related to epilepsy in any way.

People who have Complex Partial seizures can get a bit on the agresive side bfore or during a seizure, but the aggressiveness is NOT person-directed.  THey don't thrwop things at someone, they don't shout nasty cold things at another person, they don't attack them physically, or be violent in any way.

In Episodic Dyscontrol, it is always person-directed, and they DO physically hurt people, and throw things at them, or at other things mearby to destroy it, they say crude things, they get REALLY ANGRY AND AGGRESSIVE AND VIOLENT.

People who are in-seizure when they do their bizarre thing, do not have the where-with-all, or the conscious abioity to purposely do something.

They ONLY time a person having a CPS will fight back and get aggressive towards someone is if they are cornered or held down in any way--restrainded.

Agressiveness and anger for the little child on the other post can go with BiPolar Disorder.  I minored in Psychology.  It is tricky to weed it out from behavior problems associated with epilepsy, and he needs to be taken to a psychiatrist to be put on Lithium at a low dose.  Once that gets into his system, you will be able to tell wether it is epilepsy-related or BiPolar-related, thus getting the right meds for him. 

His blood level may need to be checked on his AED.  It may be too high, or too low, causing a change in behavior related to that.

Nancy

THis one can be a v ery tricky one.

The violence that seems to be going on at your end, is called Episodic Dyscontrol, and is not related to epilepsy in any way.

People who have Complex Partial seizures can get a bit on the agresive side bfore or during a seizure, but the aggressiveness is NOT person-directed.  THey don't thrwop things at someone, they don't shout nasty cold things at another person, they don't attack them physically, or be violent in any way.

In Episodic Dyscontrol, it is always person-directed, and they DO physically hurt people, and throw things at them, or at other things mearby to destroy it, they say crude things, they get REALLY ANGRY AND AGGRESSIVE AND VIOLENT.

People who are in-seizure when they do their bizarre thing, do not have the where-with-all, or the conscious abioity to purposely do something.

They ONLY time a person having a CPS will fight back and get aggressive towards someone is if they are cornered or held down in any way--restrainded.

Agressiveness and anger for the little child on the other post can go with BiPolar Disorder.  I minored in Psychology.  It is tricky to weed it out from behavior problems associated with epilepsy, and he needs to be taken to a psychiatrist to be put on Lithium at a low dose.  Once that gets into his system, you will be able to tell wether it is epilepsy-related or BiPolar-related, thus getting the right meds for him. 

His blood level may need to be checked on his AED.  It may be too high, or too low, causing a change in behavior related to that.

Nancy

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