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Epileptic fits being no more than a mood swing under stress? Is this possible?

Sun, 12/12/2004 - 18:09
My psychiatrist has told me that i have epilepsy, caused by severe depression after I was attacked in the street and suffered harrasment when i lived in a different city. I have never had an epileptic seizure, but am depressed a lot of the time and i can become angry and distressed when someone is truly and heavily rude or dishonest to me (i will shout at them and cry). My doctor also gave me medication for my depression (Tegretol) which caused two hallucinations. I reported the hallucinations and the psychiatrist  said that they were a direct indicator of epilepsy. I am forced to think that this is a diagnosis caused by negligence, but he said that epileptic seizures can also be just a mood swing while someone is being nasty to you. Is this possible?

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RE: RE: Epileptic fits being no more than a mood swing under str

Submitted by monalisa on Fri, 2005-03-11 - 17:21
 
 

You wrote... My psychiatrist has told me that i have epilepsy, caused by severe depression .... My opinion only,Depression does not create nor cause one to become an epileptic or cause a seizure disorder.if that were the case,based on the amounts of anti depressions prescibed and sold in this country,the stats on seizure disorders would be much higher than it already is. However, often times, depression may accompany certain types of seizures, and may be a pre or postictal reponse, or even an emotinal response to a seizure,but to say that depression causes a seizure disorder?This is new to me. Tegretol and your response to it,(hallucination} I don't think is an accurate way of diagnosing a seizure disorder

Hey Jude?

The above was what you wrote in reply to the original question posed,giving your interpretation as you saw it...This is the latest on this subject,I thought that this might interest the both of you further regarding 'facts and genuine research undertaken',whilst the laptops are still busy doing assessments,handwriting analysis,or drawing up the future menus?

 There's one notable difference here...This is  true,'research',not surmising.Maybe,you would like to revise your original judgement calls?

The link between depression and epilepsy is being reviewed after research suggests that people with a history of depression were up to seven times more likely to develop epilepsy.

Researchers had previously noted a higher incidence of depression among people with epilepsy than the general population or others with chronic conditions such as diabetes.

However, new evidence describes the connection between epilepsy and depression as 'maybe a two-way street,” according to research carried out in Sweden and the United States.

http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/index.html

 
 

You wrote... My psychiatrist has told me that i have epilepsy, caused by severe depression .... My opinion only,Depression does not create nor cause one to become an epileptic or cause a seizure disorder.if that were the case,based on the amounts of anti depressions prescibed and sold in this country,the stats on seizure disorders would be much higher than it already is. However, often times, depression may accompany certain types of seizures, and may be a pre or postictal reponse, or even an emotinal response to a seizure,but to say that depression causes a seizure disorder?This is new to me. Tegretol and your response to it,(hallucination} I don't think is an accurate way of diagnosing a seizure disorder

Hey Jude?

The above was what you wrote in reply to the original question posed,giving your interpretation as you saw it...This is the latest on this subject,I thought that this might interest the both of you further regarding 'facts and genuine research undertaken',whilst the laptops are still busy doing assessments,handwriting analysis,or drawing up the future menus?

 There's one notable difference here...This is  true,'research',not surmising.Maybe,you would like to revise your original judgement calls?

The link between depression and epilepsy is being reviewed after research suggests that people with a history of depression were up to seven times more likely to develop epilepsy.

Researchers had previously noted a higher incidence of depression among people with epilepsy than the general population or others with chronic conditions such as diabetes.

However, new evidence describes the connection between epilepsy and depression as 'maybe a two-way street,” according to research carried out in Sweden and the United States.

http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/index.html

RE: Epileptic fits being no more than a mood swing under stress?

Submitted by monalisa on Tue, 2004-10-05 - 16:43

These links might help understand what ,and why is happening to you.I hope they help.Your psychiatrist should have read this first one in reaching a diagnosis.

Given the enormous burden depression can have on epilepsy patients, recognising the signs and treating the symptoms of depression in this population is as important as treating the underlying condition itself. Physicians evaluating individuals with epilepsy need to be aware of how common it is for epilepsy patients to experience symptoms of depression and how profound the combined impact of epilepsy and depression can be on their quality of life.

"When selecting an anti-epileptic treatment, clinicians should strongly consider using agents that not only will help epilepsy but may also improve symptoms of depression. Better treatment may also help these patients improve their overall quality of life, particularly in work, social and family domains."

http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/index.html

 

What scientists don't yet know is why the hippocampus is smaller. Investigators have found that cortisol (a stress hormone that is important to the normal function of the hippocampus) is produced in excess in depressed people. They believe that cortisol has a toxic or poisonous effect on the hippocampus. It's also possible that depressed people are simply born with a smaller hippocampus and are therefore inclined to suffer from depression

http://www.cchs.net/health/health-info/docs/0600/0652.asp?index=9286 

 


 

These links might help understand what ,and why is happening to you.I hope they help.Your psychiatrist should have read this first one in reaching a diagnosis.

Given the enormous burden depression can have on epilepsy patients, recognising the signs and treating the symptoms of depression in this population is as important as treating the underlying condition itself. Physicians evaluating individuals with epilepsy need to be aware of how common it is for epilepsy patients to experience symptoms of depression and how profound the combined impact of epilepsy and depression can be on their quality of life.

"When selecting an anti-epileptic treatment, clinicians should strongly consider using agents that not only will help epilepsy but may also improve symptoms of depression. Better treatment may also help these patients improve their overall quality of life, particularly in work, social and family domains."

http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/index.html

 

What scientists don't yet know is why the hippocampus is smaller. Investigators have found that cortisol (a stress hormone that is important to the normal function of the hippocampus) is produced in excess in depressed people. They believe that cortisol has a toxic or poisonous effect on the hippocampus. It's also possible that depressed people are simply born with a smaller hippocampus and are therefore inclined to suffer from depression

http://www.cchs.net/health/health-info/docs/0600/0652.asp?index=9286 

 


 

RE: RE: Epileptic fits being no more than a mood swing under str

Submitted by kaayla on Tue, 2004-10-05 - 23:02
Mona Lisa,I am just expressing my own opinion. I do think gentlewings overreacted to Jude's email on this site. Perhaps, there is a lot more going on on other sites. I also disagreed with you. I do not think Jude was attacking the use of drugs to control epilepsy. I am guessing a lot more is going on due to views on another site. I think the initial point is that a psychiatrist should not be making a diagnosis of epilepsy without working in tandem with a neurologist. Skyscape said he was depressed. Skywalker said he has not had a seizure. I agree that people with epilepsy can be burdened with depression. Skyscape has depression, but the question is... does skyscape have epilepsy? Skyscape said he has not had an epileptic seizure. Why did his psychiatrist not refer him to a neurologist? What about an EEG or an MRI, etc...... kaayla

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