To seize is not to seize- what is the difference?

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
J Krishnamurti

I find this quote interesting and the more I think about it, the more I am unsure how to define health.

If this society has become profoundly sick in a certain sense, if the above statement does have any validity whatsoever, then what does it say about me...I feel I have been grasping to find answers since my first "seizure", grasping to find a new purpose, all the while eating pills in an attempt to get back to "well adjusted"...

No wonder I feel confused about how to feel "genuinely me" all the time.

much love

marty

I am extremely interested in how others may feel about any of this.

What does "well adjusted" mean to you? What about purpose? Are you more purposeful now or less?

Has your definition of health changed?

pgd has posted a few times now about somehow finding common language and definitions on words like awareness, consciousness, perception... this would make a very interesting separate thread.

Comments

Re: An intriquing quote

Submitted by 3Hours2Live on Sat, 2011-04-02 - 05:26

Is the Spam Trap still tripping responses?

Re: An intriquing quote

Submitted by wichitarick1 on Sun, 2011-04-03 - 08:15

peace R.C.

Hi Been awhile! Not sure what I can say at the moment that would not either get me in trouble or end up in some mindless rambling.

Maybe my ramblings from the past few mornings will be better understood though ,I do understand where a persons head can be at with most types of the "What if" questions though.

Made a commitment to the positive, remember?
A.m. Confusion? BUT no contusion.
Ringing loud,intense,IMMENSE, need it to sing ,not ring maybe rhyme just this time.
No gain with pain,I can keep it away ,it becomes fun,in an odd state of mind,if it is hard to find!
So many times before ,so much time on the floor,always kept a smile,never ever been its whore.
Feelings are fast ,fleeting,like a race with no definite pace,so many, to try an explain seems almost a waste.
Am so thankful,grateful ? Would be so much easier with Hate! But its to late.Just could not wait.
Will walk today ,even tomorrow ,but the next who's to say ? will it stay?will it go away?

At any rate we only roll the dice with Fate!
Who is to say that they hold the keys to the golden Gate!
Feeling it! Rick
SUN.APRIL 3
Need the positive AND the negative to complete the circuit!
should use poetic license to let feelings escape,But nerves and mind can not meet!
But it will return I have never been beat!
Have become quite adept at predicting my fate ,said just yesterday that IT would not wait.
Today is the day I do not walk,Well only half ,the other is solid, like a Rock!
Being Me is not Free ,there IS a large Fee,but even with a wage it is better than the restrictions of a chair or a cage!
My memories from past are always present now ,so many do not understand they can only say OH HOW?
so many want so much,Am I wrong to not want more ? Have so little, but provide all the stuff.
Walk a mile in their shoes they say! So many don't get it ,they look the other way!
I get "it" I do "It" whether just sitting or even at play!
I live "It" I feel "it" Just another Day!
Feeling it! Rick

peace R.C. Hi  Been awhile! Not sure what I can say at the moment that would not either get me in trouble or end up in some mindless rambling. Maybe my ramblings from the past few mornings will be better understood though ,I do understand where a persons head can be at with most types of the "What if" questions though. Made a commitment to the positive, remember? A.m. Confusion? BUT no contusion. Ringing loud,intense,IMMENSE, need it to sing ,not ring maybe rhyme just this time. No gain with pain,I can keep it away ,it becomes fun,in an odd state of mind,if it is hard to find! So many times before ,so much time on the floor,always kept a smile,never ever been its whore. Feelings are fast ,fleeting,like a race with no definite pace,so many, to try an explain seems almost a waste. Am so thankful,grateful ? Would be so much easier with Hate! But its to late.Just could not wait. Will walk today ,even tomorrow ,but the next who's to say ? will it stay?will it go away? At any rate we only roll the dice with Fate! Who is to say that they hold the keys to the golden Gate! Feeling it! Rick SUN.APRIL 3 Need the positive AND the negative to complete the circuit! should use poetic license to let feelings escape,But nerves and mind can not meet! But it will return I have never been beat! Have become quite adept at predicting my fate ,said just yesterday that IT would not wait. Today is the day I do not walk,Well only half ,the other is solid, like a Rock! Being Me is not Free ,there IS a large Fee,but even with a wage it is better than the restrictions of a chair or a cage! My memories from past are always present now ,so many do not understand they can only say OH HOW? so many want so much,Am I wrong to not want more ? Have so little, but provide all the stuff. Walk a mile in their shoes they say! So many don't get it ,they look the other way! I get "it" I do "It" whether just sitting or even at play! I live "It" I feel "it" Just another Day! Feeling it! Rick

peace R.C.

Hi Been awhile! Not sure what I can say at the moment that would not either get me in trouble or end up in some mindless rambling.

Maybe my ramblings from the past few mornings will be better understood though ,I do understand where a persons head can be at with most types of the "What if" questions though.

Made a commitment to the positive, remember?
A.m. Confusion? BUT no contusion.
Ringing loud,intense,IMMENSE, need it to sing ,not ring maybe rhyme just this time.
No gain with pain,I can keep it away ,it becomes fun,in an odd state of mind,if it is hard to find!
So many times before ,so much time on the floor,always kept a smile,never ever been its whore.
Feelings are fast ,fleeting,like a race with no definite pace,so many, to try an explain seems almost a waste.
Am so thankful,grateful ? Would be so much easier with Hate! But its to late.Just could not wait.
Will walk today ,even tomorrow ,but the next who's to say ? will it stay?will it go away?

At any rate we only roll the dice with Fate!
Who is to say that they hold the keys to the golden Gate!
Feeling it! Rick
SUN.APRIL 3
Need the positive AND the negative to complete the circuit!
should use poetic license to let feelings escape,But nerves and mind can not meet!
But it will return I have never been beat!
Have become quite adept at predicting my fate ,said just yesterday that IT would not wait.
Today is the day I do not walk,Well only half ,the other is solid, like a Rock!
Being Me is not Free ,there IS a large Fee,but even with a wage it is better than the restrictions of a chair or a cage!
My memories from past are always present now ,so many do not understand they can only say OH HOW?
so many want so much,Am I wrong to not want more ? Have so little, but provide all the stuff.
Walk a mile in their shoes they say! So many don't get it ,they look the other way!
I get "it" I do "It" whether just sitting or even at play!
I live "It" I feel "it" Just another Day!
Feeling it! Rick

Re: An intriquing quote

Submitted by 3Hours2Live on Mon, 2011-04-04 - 05:21

Hi Rick, My partial seizures are still living it to the Limbic Limits. The after-effects usually respond to my left-side versus right-side respondent conditioning tricks, that otherwise don't make any sense. Epileptic Golden Retrievers seem to go through the same phases as I do. I guess I was lucky that no coyotes in my desert days heard about how great a taste myotonic meat has in savoring America's food traditions, and identified it with epilepsy: http://books.google.com/books?id=egJPWmUrKFsC&pg=PT152&dq=Gary+Paul+Nabhan+epilepsy&hl=en&ei=EO6XTaGfFovGsAOB2ay-BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=Myotonic%20Texas&f=false In social contract matters, I'm weighing the interactions with what I'll group under the title "The Grand Inquisitor" (GI). It's as if I'm making an insurance claim under the social contract, and the GI argues everything but the social contract, either from not wishing to satisfy the contract with every disjointed excuse nearly beyond imagination, or from being in a physical position where the contract can't be satisfied, while such admission is precluded by denial of such truth. A doctor practicing such a philosophy would be most likely to tell all the patients that another patient is in worse condition, and consider the lecture as sufficient and voiding any need of actual medical services. Like Joseph Heller's "Catch-22", maybe Alan Bennett's "The Insurance Man" is overly optimistic as the Industrial Revolution is starting to sputter towards an ending (I've seen the movie years ago (and made a VHS copy, now somewhere amongst the tons), and probably will shortly read the play, along with "Kafka's Dick", and "A Question of Attribution"). From the, at times, Wonderful World of Epilepsy, Tadzio

To seize is not to seize- what is the difference?

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Re: An intriquing quote

Submitted by 3Hours2Live on Sat, 2011-04-02 - 05:26

Re: An intriquing quote

Submitted by wichitarick1 on Sun, 2011-04-03 - 08:15

Re: An intriquing quote

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