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Smoking marijuana and drinking

Thu, 02/07/2008 - 01:51
I was just reading on this website all of the forums about drinking and smoking cigarettes and how bad they are for you. It didnt say anything about weed and I smoke weed maybe once a week or once every two weeks and is it bad for having seizures? Also if you drink maybe two beers to three beers once a weekend is that bad?

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Re: Smoking marijuana and drinking

Submitted by johndatcher on Wed, 2008-12-10 - 13:37

hey   i may or may not have epilepsy. I had an mri done last week and im seeing a neurologist next week.  i have read and there's even a good youtube of people vouging for the use of medical marijuana to control seizures. BANFFGIRL down below seems knowledgeable if you're looking for some solid answers. however- i have found that marijuana can induce seizures for me, but maybe only because I was holding my hits until i was literally about to pass out. In hindsight I think the lowered oxygen levels in my brain caused my first seizure to happen, and I began to hallucinate strange indescribable music. It has happened powerfully about 4 times in the past year. Although I can hear it faintly when I take adderall or too much caffeine or get very drunk. i smoke almost a pack of cigarettes a day too. Anyway the experience is pleasant for me, but i'm getting it checked out just in case.

jderry - Many schizophrenics smoke cigarettes self-therapeutically. Supposedly it regulates neuronal firing patterns in the frontal lobe, keeping them more in touch with reality. This is one example of a drug modifying a person's chemistry/thoughts/behavior in a way that is beneficial to their life. There are thousands of other examples of 'crapp that can help' people. 

hey   i may or may not have epilepsy. I had an mri done last week and im seeing a neurologist next week.  i have read and there's even a good youtube of people vouging for the use of medical marijuana to control seizures. BANFFGIRL down below seems knowledgeable if you're looking for some solid answers. however- i have found that marijuana can induce seizures for me, but maybe only because I was holding my hits until i was literally about to pass out. In hindsight I think the lowered oxygen levels in my brain caused my first seizure to happen, and I began to hallucinate strange indescribable music. It has happened powerfully about 4 times in the past year. Although I can hear it faintly when I take adderall or too much caffeine or get very drunk. i smoke almost a pack of cigarettes a day too. Anyway the experience is pleasant for me, but i'm getting it checked out just in case.

jderry - Many schizophrenics smoke cigarettes self-therapeutically. Supposedly it regulates neuronal firing patterns in the frontal lobe, keeping them more in touch with reality. This is one example of a drug modifying a person's chemistry/thoughts/behavior in a way that is beneficial to their life. There are thousands of other examples of 'crapp that can help' people. 

Re: Smoking marijuana and drinking

Submitted by Greenwoodpixie on Mon, 2008-12-15 - 03:04

I don't know the details of your case, but there is only one thing to say here, I don't know if marijuana will help your seizures or make them worse - I know it helps me but I am a very controlled and limited user. As others know what it does to them...I can only say that if you are under 18, then you are still physically and mentally growing and marijuana will stunt your growth, as will tobacco, and alcohol. We epileptics already have enough to deal with, the least we owe our body, is the chance to grow fully and healthily.

When I finally tried pot at age 18ish, it worked. I had 2 years seizure free. But I got over confident and messefd myself really badly trying to catch up with my 'normal' friends. I will always remember my college years as the time when I deliberately and slowly tried to kill myself, without actually being openly aggressive towards my body. Yes alcohol did contribute as did the standard 60s menu courtesy the thousands of flower children sunning themselves on Indian beaches even post y2k.

After that I touched no other external crap other than oxetol. No booze. Not pot. No rec anything. Nada. For 6 months at least. ANyways, oxcarbezepine and alcohol get on a bit too well together ie I get drunk now in 3 sips so I run from booze and choose. Oxetol controls the seizures, but left me feeling anxious an hour before and after the pills. This is worse during my menstrual cycle from start to end, nearly like panic attacks but I know exactly what is causing them, I'm just unable to stop the physical symptoms. So every day for a couple of hours I used to sit down and try to deal with the dizziness, nausea, unsteadiness,rushing blood sound in ears, increased palpitation - nearly like an adrenalin rush but minus the exhilaration and clarity. ANd it sucked. So I began experimenting with pot again because I remembered how it cut off all the side effects before. 

Now I take my meds at fixed time, so I know when to expect the discomfort. An hour before my meds, I smoke a bong that by passes the discomfort. I work in between the 10 hours that are bearable, mostly pot free except on extra stressful days when I get deja vu or an aura, and during my menstrual cycle as the my threshold is lower then and I'm a mess. Pot takes away the blues, mood swings,cramps and hot/cold flashes at that time. But that's what it does for me. I rarely, if ever, puff merrily away because as a lot of people have very very wisely mentioned...you never know when you cross the line from medicinal to recreational use. ANd you never know when you are addicted. And I look forward to those good days when I don't need it at all, it's lovely to be enjoy the sunshine just for it's warmth instead of fearing it for the larger fact that it created us and is likely to end us. I nearly killed myself on the way to figuring all this out. So I don't recommend this to anyone.

Also, by now, I believed that marijuana, like the Hindu tradition says, is truly the plant of the Gods, with properties that only the sage and wise should experience because mere mortals are lead astray by it. The 'Learned Ones' instead use it to learn, grow and communicate with the world's spiritual essence. It is SHiva's plant, one that helped him meditate and center the universe, and though I am an agnostic, I agree with the old Hindu books. It is not for everyone. It can lead you astray. It is only for those who can differentiate between recreational use and qualitative use, or it becomes a personal addiction and therefore a social problem. And from the sound of this forum, medical marijuana dispensaries ought to be more careful with their genuine patients, they need to be the "Learned Ones" to take the time to figure out a patient's exact requirement and daily dosage before indiscriminately handing the yummy stuff out for one and all, then they become a worthy service. Right now, they sound as bad as any other dealer making a quick buck off unhappy people. AN addiction can make life seem more bearable even if it is not. They should decide what they are and stick to it.

I don't know the details of your case, but there is only one thing to say here, I don't know if marijuana will help your seizures or make them worse - I know it helps me but I am a very controlled and limited user. As others know what it does to them...I can only say that if you are under 18, then you are still physically and mentally growing and marijuana will stunt your growth, as will tobacco, and alcohol. We epileptics already have enough to deal with, the least we owe our body, is the chance to grow fully and healthily.

When I finally tried pot at age 18ish, it worked. I had 2 years seizure free. But I got over confident and messefd myself really badly trying to catch up with my 'normal' friends. I will always remember my college years as the time when I deliberately and slowly tried to kill myself, without actually being openly aggressive towards my body. Yes alcohol did contribute as did the standard 60s menu courtesy the thousands of flower children sunning themselves on Indian beaches even post y2k.

After that I touched no other external crap other than oxetol. No booze. Not pot. No rec anything. Nada. For 6 months at least. ANyways, oxcarbezepine and alcohol get on a bit too well together ie I get drunk now in 3 sips so I run from booze and choose. Oxetol controls the seizures, but left me feeling anxious an hour before and after the pills. This is worse during my menstrual cycle from start to end, nearly like panic attacks but I know exactly what is causing them, I'm just unable to stop the physical symptoms. So every day for a couple of hours I used to sit down and try to deal with the dizziness, nausea, unsteadiness,rushing blood sound in ears, increased palpitation - nearly like an adrenalin rush but minus the exhilaration and clarity. ANd it sucked. So I began experimenting with pot again because I remembered how it cut off all the side effects before. 

Now I take my meds at fixed time, so I know when to expect the discomfort. An hour before my meds, I smoke a bong that by passes the discomfort. I work in between the 10 hours that are bearable, mostly pot free except on extra stressful days when I get deja vu or an aura, and during my menstrual cycle as the my threshold is lower then and I'm a mess. Pot takes away the blues, mood swings,cramps and hot/cold flashes at that time. But that's what it does for me. I rarely, if ever, puff merrily away because as a lot of people have very very wisely mentioned...you never know when you cross the line from medicinal to recreational use. ANd you never know when you are addicted. And I look forward to those good days when I don't need it at all, it's lovely to be enjoy the sunshine just for it's warmth instead of fearing it for the larger fact that it created us and is likely to end us. I nearly killed myself on the way to figuring all this out. So I don't recommend this to anyone.

Also, by now, I believed that marijuana, like the Hindu tradition says, is truly the plant of the Gods, with properties that only the sage and wise should experience because mere mortals are lead astray by it. The 'Learned Ones' instead use it to learn, grow and communicate with the world's spiritual essence. It is SHiva's plant, one that helped him meditate and center the universe, and though I am an agnostic, I agree with the old Hindu books. It is not for everyone. It can lead you astray. It is only for those who can differentiate between recreational use and qualitative use, or it becomes a personal addiction and therefore a social problem. And from the sound of this forum, medical marijuana dispensaries ought to be more careful with their genuine patients, they need to be the "Learned Ones" to take the time to figure out a patient's exact requirement and daily dosage before indiscriminately handing the yummy stuff out for one and all, then they become a worthy service. Right now, they sound as bad as any other dealer making a quick buck off unhappy people. AN addiction can make life seem more bearable even if it is not. They should decide what they are and stick to it.

Re: Smoking marijuana and drinking

Submitted by sullivanricky76 on Sat, 2008-12-20 - 20:13
we can all lie to ourselves but deep down inside all the smokers (and prob drinkers) who have seizures know when our body detoxes we get or can get seizures. ciggs are no good and caffeine is not the best. coke, meth, morphine, (almost killed me) 15 years of smoking and seizures to believe it. how can poison be good for you?

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